Why You Should Support Bush's Immigration Proposal

GOPUSA ^ | 01.23.04 | J. Max Wilson

[sweetliberty]

"Now smugglers are fighting back, shooting it out with kidnappers on sidewalks and freeways in broad daylight. A gunbattle last month between kidnappers and smugglers on Interstate 10 at the height of rush hour left four dead. Four others were killed this month in the desert near Phoenix; authorities blamed the deaths on violence between the two groups."

Isn't diversity wonderful? < /sarcasm >

[Poohbah]

Bitching an moaning at a campaign staffer about something that the candidate he's working for didn't propose is pretty damn childish.

[Beck_isright]

"Conservatives are worlds away more true to their principles than politicians who pretend to be conservatives."

Prepare to get your hand slapped.

[skeeter]

After the guest worker program ended, each border crossing became a hazard. To minimize the level of risk, the now-illegal aliens crossed ONCE and stayed here. They also started bringing their families with them.

I'd feel alot better if the safety net were removed for such workers, and they were exempted from the provisions of the 14th Amendment as its currently interpreted (maybe something else could be enacted to provide them a reasonable level of protection, but no anchor babies).

But I'm not hearing anything like this from the president.

[Beck_isright]

"Bitching an moaning at a campaign staffer about something that the candidate he's working for didn't propose is pretty damn childish."

She's already offered initial support. Live in her district and then perhaps you can speak intelligently.

[onedoug]

I admire W the courage of even attempting to convey a PLAN.

Maybe it won't scow after all is said and done. But it beats every criticism, and platitude thus far offered here in reply. Essentially NON-PROPOSALs, all.

[Zipporah]

"a movement that relies on deception and the suppression of real debate,".. I absolutely agree and for years, unfortunately, many have been in fear of being called 'racists' or 'xenophobe' or some other despicable label. It was a tactic that worked.

My son is leaving for Athens soon and will be staying for a year. It will be interesting to hear from him how they deal with the immigration push. The EU is pushing very hard for a global society.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

I admire W the courage of even attempting to convey a PLAN.

What's the need for a new plan? Congress already has a plan in place, it's called employer sanctions. The problem is they're not being enforced.

[JOAT]

Until 1965, we had a guest worker program. It was killed by the Johnson Administration to pay off the AFL-CIO.

Until 1965, we had a very small illegal immigration problem. After 1965, we had a HUGE illegal immigration problem.

I submit that the two are a study in cause and effect.

There may be some relationship between the two, but to suggest this is the single cause and effect seems a bit simplistic. The internal deterioration of Mexico is another factor. The meteoric rise of the American economy and subsequent prosperity since 1965 is another. Parallel to that, the propensity to break/ignore/generally question law/authority among our people contributes to an atmosphere of acceptance of hiring illegals.

I think there are many contributing factors.

[stevie_d_64]

The only reason I see it being complicated is the fact that the only people that are goping to be directly affected by the total enforcment of the existing law are the employers of the illegals...

The criminal element of the illegal border crossers can be dealt with in the usual fashion...Even though all of that traffic is "illegal" and "criminal"...But I am sure most here understand that concept...Its the dunderheads that get sent up to D.C. that need an significant kick in the ass-terix to make them see the light...

The problem is tremendously larger than those folks are willing to deal with effectively...They need to understand that in the long run the citizens of this country want the problem resolved and not treated with kid gloves...

Later,
Steve

[Beck_isright]

"Maybe it won't scow after all is said and done. But it beats every criticism, and platitude thus far offered here in reply. Essentially NON-PROPOSALs, all."

You mean actually enforcing the existing laws is a "NON-PROPOSAL"????????????????????????????

[Zipporah]

It's as if they think we are all dumb as rocks. And this is hilarious! "I guess I'm just too simple to catch the subtle brilliance of enticing more throngs of illegal aliens to rush here on the expectation that they will be legalized.".. exactly!

[Zipporah]

.. thank you for your comment.

[Zipporah]

"I admire W the courage of even attempting to convey a PLAN.".. how so?

[sweetliberty]

"In fact, a police officer can face disciplinary action for arresting someone based upon their immigration status or for reporting them to the INS."

This is absolute crap!

"Such policies blatantly undermine federal immigration law."

Well, DUH!

"If an American employer is offering a job that American citizens are not willing to take, we ought to welcome into our country a person who will fill that job."

That is a really dumb*ss policy. It will simply be a matter of the enployer putting a job out there for the lowest possible wage and benefit, knowing full well that no American can afford to take it for what he's offering and the status quo will continue.

"We should not give unfair rewards to illegal immigrants in the citizenship process"

Legitimizing those who are already illegal IS giving them an unfair advantage.....over Americans.

[puroresu]

The reason the immigrant problem got worse after 1965 wasn't because of the end of the guest worker program. It was because they passed the 1965 immigration law that year. The purpose of that bill, unstated at the time, was to slowly phase out the existing population of the U.S. and replace it with another population.

As millions of third worlders flooded into our nation after enactment of the 1965 act, it became politically harder to enforce the remaining immigration laws without appearing "racist" (the justification for the 1965 act was that it would eliminate the "racism" from our immigration laws). So we started looking the other way on illegal immigration. Eventually, there were millions of illegals here. Then, we were told it would be too hard, not to mention "racist", to deport them. So we gave them amnesty in 1985 after being assured the government would enforce the laws against illegal immigration from then on.

Of course, that promise wasn't kept, and millions of additional illegals have flooded in. Now we're preparing to legalize them as well.

What we're seeing before our very eyes is the displacement of the American people by aliens bent on "reconquest" of the southwest. The result in 30 years will be a very militant, very leftist Spanish speaking version of Quebec, propped up by a block of ten leftist Mestizo U.S. senators and a massive block of similar House members from California, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada circa 2030, if not sooner.

[Beck_isright]

". thank you for your comment."

I guess this means the minimal qualification for being a staffer now is that you just have to fog a mirror.

[McGavin999]

Didn't you read the article? The whole problem is the laws can't be enforced because of all the city laws that forbid the LEOs from reporting illegals. The feds CAN'T enforce it unless you can convince all the illegals to move out of all the cities.

[Beck_isright]

Welcome to our future. A land run by morons who have no desire to support existing laws and making up the rules as they go along.

[mgist]

I think this is smoke and mirrors on the level of the dimocrats. I pray for our president daily, I don't know what road he is taking us down, but I don't like the looks of this neighborhood.

Someone once told me that if Clinton did this we would all be screaming foul. He was right. Because Clinton was a lying scoundrel. I trust Bush %110. He has so far done what is right for this country and hasn't been caught lying. Under this proposal, it is very unlikely that the criminal element will be able to obtain a sponsor employer or much less sustain employment for several years. This will allow the government to better pinpoint undesirables. I think it is brilliant. Bush is an honorable man. I don't see how anyone can think that turning against Bush can solve anything. There are still major threats to our country like the UN, poor public school education, drugs, etc. These are things that only President Bush will deal with appropriately.