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The Agenda of Islam - A War Between Civilizations
betar ^ | Wednesday 24th Dec 2003 | Professor Moshe Sharon

Posted on 01/24/2004 2:31:12 AM PST by dennisw

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1 posted on 01/24/2004 2:31:13 AM PST by dennisw
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2 posted on 01/24/2004 2:31:51 AM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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3 posted on 01/24/2004 2:32:36 AM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: dennisw
Another good resource: www.prophetofdoom.net
4 posted on 01/24/2004 2:35:47 AM PST by ovrtaxt (You got an extra Koran? I'm like totally out of toilet paper.)
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To: ovrtaxt
http://www.prophetofdoom.net is a great resource on Muhammed's depraved life and the depraved Koran.
5 posted on 01/24/2004 2:38:46 AM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: ambrose
Didn't we kind of already know this?
6 posted on 01/24/2004 2:40:46 AM PST by Mark17
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To: Mark17
Islam and Territory
This civilization created one very important, fundamental rule about territory. Any territory that comes under Islamic rule cannot be de-Islamized. Even if at one time or another, the [non-Moslem] enemy takes over the territory that was under Islamic rule, it is considered to be perpetually Islamic.
This is why whenever you hear about the Arab/Israeli conflict, you hear - territory, territory, territory. There are other aspects to the conflict, but territory is highly important.

The Christian civilization has not only been seen as a religious opponent, but as a dam stopping Islam from achieving its final goal for which it was created.
Islam was created to be the army of God, the army of Allah. Every single Moslem is a soldier in this army. Every single Moslem that dies in fighting for the spread of Islam is a shaheed (martyr) no matter how he dies, because - and this is very important - this is an eternal word between the two civilizations. It's not a war that stops. This was is there because it was created by Allah. Islam must be the ruler. This is a war that will not end.
7 posted on 01/24/2004 2:42:40 AM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: dennisw
Scary stuff. We'd best keep working on our missile defense systems because it sounds like they'll be firing some warheads in our direction at some time later in this century.
8 posted on 01/24/2004 2:43:46 AM PST by defenderSD (Contrary to rumors circulating on the web, I am not Silvio Berlusconi.)
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To: defenderSD
BFLR.
9 posted on 01/24/2004 2:45:59 AM PST by JusPasenThru (Reasoning with a man is futile when his opinions were not reached by reason in the first place.)
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To: JusPasenThru
Good tag line, but what does "BFLR" stand for?
10 posted on 01/24/2004 2:48:02 AM PST by defenderSD (Contrary to rumors circulating on the web, I am not Silvio Berlusconi.)
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To: dennisw
ping
11 posted on 01/24/2004 2:49:05 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: dennisw
There isn't a lot of politicos in the US who will speak openly, what with the concept of political correctness and all, however, the war on terror is the civilized world against muslim. And the muslim are ruthless.
12 posted on 01/24/2004 2:52:08 AM PST by exnavy
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To: defenderSD
Big F---ing Long Read ?
13 posted on 01/24/2004 2:54:01 AM PST by exnavy
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To: dennisw
This piece pretty sums up the whole islame thing.

Now if we could just get someone to print this article in very bold letters, cover every word with a bright yellow highlighter and place it on Pres. Bushs desk.

The term "religion of peace" seems not to apply.
14 posted on 01/24/2004 3:40:22 AM PST by ExSafecracker (Ladies and Gentlemen, Pres. Hilliary Rodham and her First Lady, Janet Reno-Rodham!)
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To: dennisw; All
Cross-link:

-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--

15 posted on 01/24/2004 3:51:09 AM PST by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)... the 00's? The Decade of Lunatics...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Religion of Peace ping.
16 posted on 01/24/2004 4:07:17 AM PST by risk
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17 posted on 01/24/2004 4:22:12 AM PST by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)... the 00's? The Decade of Lunatics...)
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To: dennisw
I watched the opening of the movie The Exorcist on DVD. It begins with scarlet red letters on a black background while you hear this horrible Islamic chant reverberate.

I thought--"How appropriate."

18 posted on 01/24/2004 4:30:53 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: defenderSD
Scary stuff. We'd best keep working on our missile defense systems because it sounds like they'll be firing some warheads in our direction at some time later in this century.

Ummm..I'm a huge supporter of missle defense (and think we need it up & operational YESTERDAY if not sooner), but the bigger problems are the wide-open borders.

With tactical (suitcase) nukes, chem & bio, the missle shield ain't gonna do squat except protect us from N. Korea, Russia, etc. (Very important, but secondary to the insane border issue).

The ONLY way to save America is to close the damned borders tighter than Fort Knox, and export anyone here trying to kill us.

The problem is..it's a POLITICAL (not technological) issue that neither side (Repub nor Dem) will touch, as it will cost them too many votes.

Too bad, as this will could very well be the death of the US as we know it..but, hey..at least people will get themselves re-elected and hold onto power for a few more years..[barf!]

19 posted on 01/24/2004 4:35:05 AM PST by jstolzen
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To: jstolzen
The ONLY way to save America is to close the damned borders tighter than Fort Knox, and export anyone here trying to kill us. The problem is..it's a POLITICAL (not technological) issue that neither side (Repub nor Dem) will touch, as it will cost them too many votes.

Actually, sealing the borders and kicking out the bad guys is supported by the vast majority of the American electorate, and would therefore doubtlessly bring many more votes to any President with guts enough to make the move.

20 posted on 01/24/2004 4:47:52 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: dennisw
technology has always been critical in winning wars. islam has very little if any technology advantage.

with high tech sensors, baby bombers and exploding underpants ain't gonna be effective much longer.

21 posted on 01/24/2004 4:50:48 AM PST by alrea
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To: ExSafecracker
The term "religion of peace" seems not to apply.

In fact, the phrase sounds ......psychotic. It's akin to someone calling Nazism "the party of peace" during WW2.

22 posted on 01/24/2004 4:51:13 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SkyPilot
I watched the opening of the movie The Exorcist on DVD. It begins with scarlet red letters on a black background while you hear this horrible Islamic chant reverberate.
I thought--"How appropriate."
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You are right about the Islamic "call to prayer" that it opens with. I've never seen the film but now I will


http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:vZqX9b4gHJYJ:www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m1373/5_50/62087854/p1/article.jhtml+%22The+Exorcist%22++Islamic&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


23 posted on 01/24/2004 4:57:10 AM PST by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: dennisw
So, the only safety will be when the last Muslim is dead? There's about a billion of 'em; better get started!

Being good Christians we will pray for their souls as we slaughter them. < /sarcasm >

As Golda Meier supposedly said, "we can forgive you for killing our children, but not for making us kill yours."
24 posted on 01/24/2004 5:07:18 AM PST by JimRed (Disinformation is the leftist's and enemy's friend; consider the source before believing.)
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To: jstolzen
I'm a huge supporter of missle defense (and think we need it up & operational YESTERDAY if not sooner), but the bigger problems are the wide-open borders.

With tactical (suitcase) nukes, chem & bio, the missle shield ain't gonna do squat except protect us from N. Korea, Russia, etc.

The biggest problem IMHO we have in dealing with islamic terrorists, is that most Islamic nations do have much by way of a convention or even non-conventional military. It would be foolish for any of these countries to take an openly defiant stance, as they have no serious offense or even defense from the United states. So even if the nation itself takes issue with us, (and grounds for war is as simple as allowing terrorism to flourish)we will be forced to take arms against other nations unable to fight us as we did in Afghanistan and Iraq. (Yea, yea...quagmire... I know)Thus, the Anti-American UN has fuel to rally other nations against us. The EU will eventually be a force to be reckoned with, and when you sit at the top of the heap, everyone dreams of knocking you off. France salivates over the notion, as I am certain does Russia and China.
25 posted on 01/24/2004 5:16:16 AM PST by Superlyn
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To: dennisw
Have you ever checked out http://www.VicMord.com? An excellent source of truth about what Islam is really all about. I would be interested in your opinion, after you review it. Thanks and keep up the good work!
26 posted on 01/24/2004 5:17:06 AM PST by Sandmansleeper (Quinn's First Law: Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent)
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To: alrea
with high tech sensors, baby bombers and exploding underpants ain't gonna be effective much longer.

Coincidentally, I always feel like my underpants are about to explode.

27 posted on 01/24/2004 5:19:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (The Republicans have turned into Democrats, and the Democrats have turned into Marxists.)
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To: jstolzen
" The ONLY way to save America is to close the damned borders tighter than Fort Knox, and export anyone here trying to kill us. The problem is..it's a POLITICAL (not technological) issue that neither side (Repub nor Dem) will touch, as it will cost them too many votes. "

Shortsighted pcycobabble…

If we sealed ourselves up and disengaged from the world, Islamic fascism would win. The nukes would be on our borders, and our enemy would be within.

Be on guard, but have confidence. This latest spike of Islamic aggression is out of desperation. They know their civilization is stagnating at best and ours is winning.

28 posted on 01/24/2004 5:31:20 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Mark17; nopardons
Actually, I knew a good bit of it, but there were several things in here I DID NOT KNOW, courtesy of the gov't reeducation camp experience (public schools) to keep me and hoardes like me dirt ignorant.

The territory thing ... I didn't know that. I thought the attacks on Israel were primarily motivated by hatred of Jews. So, in this thread, I see two major things missing: what about Turkey? That's clearly no longer "al Dar" - oops, forgot about the recent major terrorist attacks there.

And what about IRAQ? If the hellishness in Israel is an indicator, then by definition, it's unlikely Iraq will be Jihad-free in a few years. So, it means our resource committment will GROW, not subside, if this article's premises about house of Islam, house of war, and the impossibility of de-Islamization is correct.

So, the implications here are pretty clear: The draft is going to be reinstitued in the USA within 10 years. Talk about the coming bugle call of "wake up, time to fight". An awful lot of people are going to be groggy and whining for a good bit.

The question is, when did secular humanists ever answer the clarion call to battle, fight bravely for their cause, with some dying courageously in battle, and WIN?

The author is correct .... for the most part, it is Christians w/ metal-cased Bibles in their jackets in Iraq that are fighting right now. Christian baptisms have been taking place in battle fields... And Israel is going to need a LOT MORE OF THEM in the future.

Ironically enough, a revival is just what the USA needs, to end the scourge of secular humanism in our nation. And if permanent war is needed for that ... well, how is that any different than what the history books teach anyway?

(Oh, how I hope I'm a DEAD WRONG stupid laocoon about these comments - that no trojon horse is outside the gates...)
29 posted on 01/24/2004 5:43:10 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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To: dennisw
Bump for later.
30 posted on 01/24/2004 5:43:37 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: dennisw
Bumped & Bookmarked
31 posted on 01/24/2004 5:49:50 AM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: JimRed
So, the only safety will be when the last Muslim is dead? There's about a billion of 'em; better get started!

On bad days, I think that this is what it will come to (flame suit on).
32 posted on 01/24/2004 5:53:35 AM PST by Rummyfan
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Bump for later read
33 posted on 01/24/2004 5:54:32 AM PST by A Simple Soldier
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To: elfman2
Shortsighted pcycobabble…

HUH? I didn't say "disengage from the world". What I suggested is that we DON'T LET THE BAD GUYS INTO THE COUNTRY IN THE FIRST PLACE".

It is not "shortsighted" at all, and a pretty simple premise: if you export the bad guys (round them up, like we did the Germans in WWII that were sent here by Hitler to blow up US factories during the war), and have a preventative mechanism in place to keep them from coming back (good border control), they can't hit you. Or, at the very least, you make it VERY hard to attack the US from within.

As it stands today, ANY terrorist could walk ANY weapon into the US and detonate it at will. If we keep them OFF US Soil in the first place, or make it a LOT harder, this is a whole lot less likely to happen.

We are "sitting ducks" as it stands now, and lack the societal awareness/intelligence and political will to do a darn thing about it.

34 posted on 01/24/2004 5:57:16 AM PST by jstolzen
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To: backhoe
Do you have...

'Nazi Roots of Modern Radical Islam'...FR thread from 12-18-02

Also, a related book...:

'Modern Fascism: Liquidating the Judeo-Christian Worldview'...book by Prof. G. E. Veith

35 posted on 01/24/2004 5:58:38 AM PST by harbingr (USA/FreeRepublic/The Constitution Party: the Last, Best Hope of Mankind)
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To: harbingr
Thanks for the links- saved to disc.
36 posted on 01/24/2004 6:01:34 AM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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To: gobucks
The territory thing ... I didn't know that.

Some of the translations over on www.memri.org indicate they want to retake Constantinople and ... Rome. They don't like it one bit that the seat of Catholicism is on territory briefly occupied by Muslim invaders.

37 posted on 01/24/2004 6:17:49 AM PST by angkor
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To: risk
Don't insult my intelligence.

You may want to believe in absolutes, go right ahead.

"Islam" has no agenda, extremist Islamic fundamentalists do, the first rule of war is to identify your enemy...thus far, you're failing miserably.
38 posted on 01/24/2004 6:28:26 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: jstolzen
The ONLY way to save America is to close the damned borders tighter than Fort Knox, and export anyone here trying to kill us.

A mosque a minute, until we're done.

ML/NJ

39 posted on 01/24/2004 6:46:14 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: upier
ping, despite typos
40 posted on 01/24/2004 6:52:15 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: jstolzen
" HUH? I didn't say "disengage from the world". "

Excuse me if I presume something that’s untrue. I’ve found that virtually everyone who promotes hermetically sealed borders imagines it as part of a disengaged foreign policy, abandoning relationships with states like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan etc with mixed cooperation on terrorism.

41 posted on 01/24/2004 6:53:47 AM PST by elfman2
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To: defenderSD
Bump for later read. I didn't feel like typing it all out at 4AM.
42 posted on 01/24/2004 7:00:12 AM PST by JusPasenThru (Reasoning with a man is futile when his opinions were not reached by reason in the first place.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Islam" has no agenda

Really?

And Nazism had none either. Open your eyes.

ML/NJ

43 posted on 01/24/2004 7:10:16 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: dennisw
Awesome find.

Now if our politicians would give up the delusion of a "Religion of Peace" we could start to seriously discuss neutralizing this death cult.
44 posted on 01/24/2004 7:19:53 AM PST by Stopislamnow (If Bin Laden is in Pakistan, why is it still inhabitable? We're a buncha pussies.)
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To: angkor
thanks for that ... I'll check it out.
45 posted on 01/24/2004 7:27:39 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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To: Rummyfan
You can be damn sure if they set off a nuclear weapon (or two) in this country, it will come to a billion of them dead. Americans are a tolerant people, probably too tolerant, but if that happens, it will make what happened to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor look like tea at Aunt Martha's.

Remember the famous quote (speaker's name escapes me, but he was a top military leader in WWII at the beginning) "When I'm finished, the only place Japanese (Arabic) will be spoken is in hell".

Like Jonah Goldberg said a few months ago (paraphrase) "Terrorists be careful what you wish for, 'cause you just might get it, and you DON'T want jihad with America". From some of the earlier posts here, looks like Al Quaeda has found that out the hard way already.

46 posted on 01/24/2004 7:41:15 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: JimRed
So, the only safety will be when the last Muslim is dead?

I don't believe that was anybody's supposition but yours.

47 posted on 01/24/2004 7:41:24 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: gobucks
(Oh, how I hope I'm a DEAD WRONG stupid laocoon about these comments - that no trojon horse is outside the gates...)
==========================================

For all you lurkers, DUers, and folks in Rio Linda, and Palm Beach county this is (a) Laocoon:


What is a 'Laocoön'?

As it turns out, the original Laocoön was a person, a priest of Troy who warned his fellow Trojans about 'Greeks bearing gifts' in an effort to keep them from admitting the famous Horse within the walls; he threw his spear at it to show them that it was hollow. Somewhat later, as he was sacrificing to Poseidon, a pair of sea monsters emerged from the waves and killed him and his two sons in the fashion of boa constrictors. The Trojans took this to mean the gods were mad at him for striking the horse, and after he died they brought it right in to the city.

48 posted on 01/24/2004 7:48:43 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: dennisw
...this is an eternal word between the two civilizations. It's not a war that stops. This was is there because it was created by Allah. Islam must be the ruler. This is a war that will not end.

Genesis 16
11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

49 posted on 01/24/2004 7:48:50 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: angkor
They don't like it one bit that the seat of Catholicism is on territory briefly occupied by Muslim invaders.

I found this article on the MEMRI site where some jihadists are predicting Islamic control of Rome and Istanbul at some point in the future. But when was Rome ever occupied by Muslims in the past?

50 posted on 01/24/2004 8:07:39 AM PST by AzJohn
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