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The Agenda of Islam - A War Between Civilizations
betar ^ | Wednesday 24th Dec 2003 | Professor Moshe Sharon

Posted on 01/24/2004 2:31:12 AM PST by dennisw

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To: jstolzen
" HUH? I didn't say "disengage from the world". "

Excuse me if I presume something that’s untrue. I’ve found that virtually everyone who promotes hermetically sealed borders imagines it as part of a disengaged foreign policy, abandoning relationships with states like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan etc with mixed cooperation on terrorism.

41 posted on 01/24/2004 6:53:47 AM PST by elfman2
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To: defenderSD
Bump for later read. I didn't feel like typing it all out at 4AM.
42 posted on 01/24/2004 7:00:12 AM PST by JusPasenThru (Reasoning with a man is futile when his opinions were not reached by reason in the first place.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Islam" has no agenda

Really?

And Nazism had none either. Open your eyes.

ML/NJ

43 posted on 01/24/2004 7:10:16 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: dennisw
Awesome find.

Now if our politicians would give up the delusion of a "Religion of Peace" we could start to seriously discuss neutralizing this death cult.
44 posted on 01/24/2004 7:19:53 AM PST by Stopislamnow (If Bin Laden is in Pakistan, why is it still inhabitable? We're a buncha pussies.)
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To: angkor
thanks for that ... I'll check it out.
45 posted on 01/24/2004 7:27:39 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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To: Rummyfan
You can be damn sure if they set off a nuclear weapon (or two) in this country, it will come to a billion of them dead. Americans are a tolerant people, probably too tolerant, but if that happens, it will make what happened to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor look like tea at Aunt Martha's.

Remember the famous quote (speaker's name escapes me, but he was a top military leader in WWII at the beginning) "When I'm finished, the only place Japanese (Arabic) will be spoken is in hell".

Like Jonah Goldberg said a few months ago (paraphrase) "Terrorists be careful what you wish for, 'cause you just might get it, and you DON'T want jihad with America". From some of the earlier posts here, looks like Al Quaeda has found that out the hard way already.

46 posted on 01/24/2004 7:41:15 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: JimRed
So, the only safety will be when the last Muslim is dead?

I don't believe that was anybody's supposition but yours.

47 posted on 01/24/2004 7:41:24 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: gobucks
(Oh, how I hope I'm a DEAD WRONG stupid laocoon about these comments - that no trojon horse is outside the gates...)
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For all you lurkers, DUers, and folks in Rio Linda, and Palm Beach county this is (a) Laocoon:


What is a 'Laocoön'?

As it turns out, the original Laocoön was a person, a priest of Troy who warned his fellow Trojans about 'Greeks bearing gifts' in an effort to keep them from admitting the famous Horse within the walls; he threw his spear at it to show them that it was hollow. Somewhat later, as he was sacrificing to Poseidon, a pair of sea monsters emerged from the waves and killed him and his two sons in the fashion of boa constrictors. The Trojans took this to mean the gods were mad at him for striking the horse, and after he died they brought it right in to the city.

48 posted on 01/24/2004 7:48:43 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: dennisw
...this is an eternal word between the two civilizations. It's not a war that stops. This was is there because it was created by Allah. Islam must be the ruler. This is a war that will not end.

Genesis 16
11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

49 posted on 01/24/2004 7:48:50 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: angkor
They don't like it one bit that the seat of Catholicism is on territory briefly occupied by Muslim invaders.

I found this article on the MEMRI site where some jihadists are predicting Islamic control of Rome and Istanbul at some point in the future. But when was Rome ever occupied by Muslims in the past?

50 posted on 01/24/2004 8:07:39 AM PST by AzJohn
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To: angkor
Some of the translations over on www.memri.org indicate they want to retake Constantinople...

Merriam-Webster Online
Main Entry: Constantinople
Usage: geographical name
-- see ISTANBUL


and ... Rome. They don't like it one bit that the seat of Catholicism is on territory briefly occupied by Muslim invaders.

When was Rome occupied by Muslim invaders? That seems fairly significant, can't understand how I could have missed that one.

51 posted on 01/24/2004 8:15:18 AM PST by Mackey (Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet...consummated his marriage when she was nine years old...)
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To: Mr. Mojo
'...many more votes to any President with guts enough to make the move.'

Had enuf of the DemonRatRepubPolitiConScambos?...Then Follow this Party...:

June 23-27, 2004 2004 Constitution Party National Convention Location: Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

52 posted on 01/24/2004 8:19:20 AM PST by harbingr (USA/FreeRepublic/The Constitution Party: the Last, Best Hope of Mankind)
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To: Mackey
"When was Rome occupied by Muslim invaders? That seems fairly significant, can't understand how I could have missed that one."



http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/islam/beginnings/roman.html

I don't believe that Rome was, but part of the Roman empire was.
53 posted on 01/24/2004 8:24:14 AM PST by Superlyn
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To: dennisw
The question which we in Israel are asking ourselves is what will happen to our country? Is there a possibility to end this dance of war?

The answer is, "No. Not in the foreseeable future." What we can do is reach a situation where for a few years we may have relative quiet.

He's got that right.

I answered similarly on another FR thread;

We had 16 or so well to do and educated Saudis kill themselves by flying the planes into the twin towers,and Pentagon. It wasn't done out of desperation.

It was what God wanted done. And there is no better motivation than that, and it's not going away ever.. - tom

54 posted on 01/24/2004 8:34:59 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
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To: dennisw
Please add me to your list. Thanks.
55 posted on 01/24/2004 8:38:00 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (Dogs have masters; Cats have staff...)
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To: defenderSD
They cannot build planes, they will not build missiles. They will use IslamOkazis. So missile defense will not help, obliterating Mecca will. Not what we would choose, but I think it is the only answer.
56 posted on 01/24/2004 8:48:11 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Capt. Tom
'(Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)'

OK, I'll confuse them with Evil, Treasonist DemonRats...(before you Bushies flame away, please read this link)

'Another Fine Bureaucratic Mess'...by J.R. Nyquist

PS...it's about Immigration Corruption...and it starts at The Top

57 posted on 01/24/2004 9:05:52 AM PST by harbingr (time to remove those Bush/Cheney bumper stickers...)
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To: Mackey
Muslims sacked Rome around 850AD and entirely occupied Sicily from about 900AD to 1100AD.

Early Islam in Italy

58 posted on 01/24/2004 9:17:15 AM PST by angkor
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To: AzJohn
See #58
59 posted on 01/24/2004 9:22:38 AM PST by angkor
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To: Superlyn
See #58
60 posted on 01/24/2004 9:24:36 AM PST by angkor
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