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Couple demands halt to neighbor's smoking
Akron Beacon Journal ^ | 1/23/04 | Phil Trexler

Posted on 01/24/2004 9:17:05 AM PST by mylife

Couple demands halt to neighbor's smoking Restraining order sought over nuisance to health By Phil Trexler Beacon Journal staff writer

Robert Zangrando has had it up to his chest, nose and eyes with his neighbor's smoking and he's taking her to court to get her to quit.

Zangrando, a retired University of Akron history professor who lives in Stow, was in Summit County court Thursday with his wife and lawyer.

Together they are seeking a restraining order against his next-door neighbor, Nicole Kuder, 28, that would prohibit her from smoking outdoors within 30 feet of her condominium.

Zangrando, 71, and his wife, UA instructor Lisa A. Pace, contend the smoking affects their health and has become a nuisance.

Before the hearing, Kuder said, ``I have tried to accommodate them, and this is the result.''

The couple's attorney, Ed Gilbert, called the situation an emergency and wanted Common Pleas Judge Marvin Shapiro to rule immediately on the restraining order request. Shapiro declined because Kuder came to court without an attorney.

Akron attorney Tom Adgate was retained by Kuder just before the hearing and was unable to attend. Shapiro delayed ruling until the hearing resumes Tuesday with Kuder and her attorney.

Kuder and Zangrando have been neighbors in a condominium complex on Higby Drive for about two years. Their two-story units are separated only by a shared wall. They share a front porch, and a wooden fence separates their back doors.

Zangrando said his neighbor's cigarette smoking is apparent whenever he opens a window or steps outside his home. He said the fumes compromise his health, causing him to wheeze and cough.

He said he suffers from lung problems, including emphysema, and has had asthma in the past. He said the smoking is such that he is reluctant to let his dog or two cats outside.

``It hits you right away, the minute you walk out the door. It catches me, I start coughing, I know she's smoking, I can see she's smoking visually, and I can get the effects of the smoke when I inhale what should be fresh air in my own back patio,'' Zangrando told the judge.

Kuder rents the condo she and her family live in and is not permitted to smoke inside the unit. Zangrando and Pace have owned their unit since marrying in 1996.

``It's a constant reality. She's out there smoking, and I have been appealing to her since she first moved: Please, if you're going smoke, would you move away from the house because the fumes come in our house, and we no longer have discretionary use of our house,'' Zangrando told the judge.

He said he has tried for more than a year to convince Kuder to smoke elsewhere, to no avail. He said he tried to reach an agreement in October, but Kuder and her husband, who does not smoke, refused to sign.

Kuder said Zangrando wanted her to walk to a nearby parking lot to smoke. She said he snoops on her, photographs her movements and has yelled at her to ``go, kill my family'' with her cigarettes.

``I tried to be nice and go out back and compromise, but they constantly harass us,'' Kuder said outside court. ``There have been times when I've had friends over, and he comes out screaming at us. It bothers me, but at the same time, I try to be a respectful smoker.''


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
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To: r9etb
What is an orbitologist?
141 posted on 01/24/2004 10:31:51 AM PST by Terry Mross
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To: JoJo Gunn
Anybody wanna do a count on how many times our resident "I'm smarter than you" Smoke Nazi has used the word stupid?

Let me up the count: smoking is STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!!

Are you going to dispute that?

142 posted on 01/24/2004 10:32:29 AM PST by r9etb
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To: CatAtomic
Yes--it is VERY interesting that the old man can keep both a cat AND a dog, yet it's the cigs, smoked outdoors, about 30' from his entry, which set off his emphysema, or whatever.

143 posted on 01/24/2004 10:32:54 AM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: saul goode
When I was young we had a neighbor call the police on us for vandalism since we cut a limb off of her tree that was hitting the roof of our house. As it turned out common law is that if it crosses the property line, you can cut it. Later the tree died. SHe was back insisting that we pay for it. Your basic neighborhood loon.
144 posted on 01/24/2004 10:33:17 AM PST by Starwolf
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To: r9etb
Alas, you know as well as I that her smoke doesn't stay put -- it really is getting into his house, and bothering him. So she is also smoking on his property.

And cars go by with exhaust fumes, and they live in the industrial town of Akron, Ohio, which isn't exactly filled with pristine air, anyway. And to top it all off, it's January, which, as other people have pointed out, is not exactly time to have your windows open! But you won't let facts get in the way of your anti-smoking rant, will you?

145 posted on 01/24/2004 10:33:19 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: r9etb
The guy's got major lung issues.

Considering the other serious logical flaws in this whacko's case, I'd like to see proof of his alleged "lung issues" before giving him a pass (not that such proof makes his case).

It's a little strange that he only "claims" he has these problems, you'd think that somewhere during the two years of harassing his neighbor he'd have had a physician attest to his medical problems. Nothing here to indicate he's done so.

I wonder why not.

146 posted on 01/24/2004 10:33:28 AM PST by angkor
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To: mylife
She said he snoops on her, photographs her movements and has yelled at her to ``go, kill my family'' with her cigarettes.

This man is obviously not playing with a full deck. As I said before, I'd countersue with every last fiber in my being. Taking pictures of her? This has stalking written all over it.

147 posted on 01/24/2004 10:33:28 AM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: angkor
Also, why is this an "emergency"? Do Ohioians regularly keep their windows and doors open in January?

LOL, good point. Not unless we want to die of frost bite.

148 posted on 01/24/2004 10:33:43 AM PST by muggs
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To: r9etb
Ahem.

Who are YOU to tell a free citizen that they cannot partake of a legally permissable activity ???
149 posted on 01/24/2004 10:34:00 AM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: r9etb
Your "orbit" is wobbling.

Orbitologist indeed.

150 posted on 01/24/2004 10:34:42 AM PST by G.Mason ("The secret to success is knowing who to blame for your failures" - Old Democrat saying)
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To: mylife
Smoke, smoke, smoke that cigarette 
Puff, puff, puff until you smoke yourself to death. 

Tell St. Peter at the Golden Gate 
That you hate to make him wait, 
But you just gotta have another cigarette. 

151 posted on 01/24/2004 10:35:13 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: LisaMalia
You're right about this guy not playing with a full deck:

Kuder said Zangrando wanted her to walk to a nearby parking lot to smoke. She said he snoops on her, photographs her movements and has yelled at her to ``go, kill my family'' with her cigarettes.

``I tried to be nice and go out back and compromise, but they constantly harass us,'' Kuder said outside court. ``There have been times when I've had friends over, and he comes out screaming at us. It bothers me, but at the same time, I try to be a respectful smoker.''

Cranky old man alert!

152 posted on 01/24/2004 10:36:23 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: LisaMalia
You're right about this guy not playing with a full deck:

Kuder said Zangrando wanted her to walk to a nearby parking lot to smoke. She said he snoops on her, photographs her movements and has yelled at her to ``go, kill my family'' with her cigarettes.

``I tried to be nice and go out back and compromise, but they constantly harass us,'' Kuder said outside court. ``There have been times when I've had friends over, and he comes out screaming at us. It bothers me, but at the same time, I try to be a respectful smoker.''

Cranky old man alert!

153 posted on 01/24/2004 10:36:46 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: LisaMalia
You're right about this guy not playing with a full deck:

Kuder said Zangrando wanted her to walk to a nearby parking lot to smoke. She said he snoops on her, photographs her movements and has yelled at her to ``go, kill my family'' with her cigarettes.

``I tried to be nice and go out back and compromise, but they constantly harass us,'' Kuder said outside court. ``There have been times when I've had friends over, and he comes out screaming at us. It bothers me, but at the same time, I try to be a respectful smoker.''

Cranky old man alert!

154 posted on 01/24/2004 10:36:47 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: notaliberal
Live in a condo upstairs, the people downstairs stand in their driveway and smoke

Here in California, there is an underlying "allow the quiet enjoyment" principle that surrounds Common INterest Living. I was on the Board here (my wife has replaced me) and I can tell you that if someone was smoking outside in the common area and disturbing someone, I would direct that to cease. OTOH, if it was on their own balcony or patio, there is very little that can be done.

Are the driveways considered common area?

155 posted on 01/24/2004 10:36:53 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com/ put it in your tagline too)
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To: All
Oops -- sorry about the triple post!
156 posted on 01/24/2004 10:37:36 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
And cars go by with exhaust fumes, and they live in the industrial town of Akron, Ohio, which isn't exactly filled with pristine air, anyway. And to top it all off, it's January, which, as other people have pointed out, is not exactly time to have your windows open!

Good points. Frankly, I don't see why they would EVER need to have their windows open, healthwise. The humidity in Ohio is bad, year round. In the spring/summer, I would think they would run their airconditioner. Surely they can afford to, as they can afford to retain an attorney for this idiotic lawsuit.

157 posted on 01/24/2004 10:37:45 AM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: Xenalyte; SheLion
Smoke is eeeeevil.
158 posted on 01/24/2004 10:37:50 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: SoftballMominVA
You could have counter-sued for harassment and a public nuisance. A little video of those antics should have done the trick.
159 posted on 01/24/2004 10:37:58 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (This tagline manufactured in the U.S.A. and is certified prion-free.)
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To: r9etb
You're stretching when you try to claim that the whole thing started in the last two weeks

That's disingenuous. Their lawyer asked for an emergency restraining order.

Why? Think it through.

160 posted on 01/24/2004 10:38:16 AM PST by angkor
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