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HOLLYWEIRD'S CONTEMPT FOR AMERICAN VALUES Documentary’s Haunting Tale of Abuse (awarded Oscar)
NEWSDAY ^ | Jan 11, 2004 | PAUL VITELLO

Posted on 01/28/2004 11:33:24 AM PST by Liz

Edited on 01/28/2004 12:52:35 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Liz
Thanks, but I had it removed. I thought it was too frivilous for such a tragic topic.
21 posted on 01/28/2004 1:03:44 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Liz
It did get nominated.
22 posted on 01/28/2004 1:04:19 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
The topic is tragic.......but only for the 13 children whose lives were ruined by these degenerates.

And it's even more tragic that Jarecki is attempting to manipulate public opinion in order to get the convictions overturned.

I am positive that if Jarecki succeeds in this the surviving child molester will sue to get bigtime monetary compensation claiming he was "wrongly" jailed.

23 posted on 01/28/2004 1:28:55 PM PST by Liz
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To: EveningStar
Also winner of the Grand Jury Prize at the 2003 Sundance Film Festival.

British Academy of Film review:

CAPTURING THE FRIEDMANS is a non-fiction feature film that explores the elusive nature of truth through the prism of one of the strangest criminal cases in American history.

The Friedmans seem at first to be a typical family. Arnold Friedman is an award-winning schoolteacher, his wife Elaine, a homemaker. Together, they raise their three boys in the affluent Long Island town of Great Neck. One Thanksgiving, the family is gathered at home preparing for a quiet holiday dinner. In an instant, a police battering ram splinters the front door and officers rush into the house searching every corner, seizing boxes of the family’s possessions. Arnold and his 18-year old son Jesse are both arrested, led away in handcuffs through a maze of newsmen, lights, cameras, and trucks assembled in their front yard.

As a convoluted investigation unfolds, father and son are indicted for hundreds of shocking crimes. While the family vehemently declares its innocence, the Great Neck community is in an uproar, and the Friedmans are the target of their rage.

The film follows their story – from the public’s perspective and, most remarkably, through unique footage of the family in crisis, shot contemporaneously by family members inside the Friedman house.

As the police pursue the investigation, and the community reacts, the fabric of the family begins to disintegrate, revealing disturbing questions about justice, community, family, and – ultimately – truth.

Winner of the Grand Jury Prize at the 2003 Sundance Film Festival - Running time 107 mins


BAFTATIX@baftaeastcoast.com


24 posted on 01/28/2004 1:37:08 PM PST by Liz
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To: beckett
The author makes an interesting suggestion to the victims. Come forward and clear the air.

Operative word: victims. Are you suggesting that they be victimized again by reliving this nightmare? They don't owe anything to anyone.

25 posted on 01/28/2004 1:52:06 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: LisaMalia
Operative word: victims. Are you suggesting that they be victimized again by reliving this nightmare? They don't owe anything to anyone.

They owe no one anything, absolutely. But, if any among them is strong enough, they are presented with an opportunity to do their part in stemming the tide of sympathy for child molestors currently fashionable in some quarters (not only as evidenced in Capturing the Friedmans, but also in mainstream media. Have you seen any Entertainment Tonight reports lately on Michael Jackson?) and at the same time might provide comfort and courage, and have a somewhat de-stigmatizing effect, for victims less able to stand up to their abuser.

It would be an act to be applauded if an adult male victim of old man Friedman, or better, two or threee of them, stood up and publicly announced that they were indeed molested by the guy and that, no, the late Mr. Friedman was not railroaded, as Capturing the Friedmans, so I have been told, implies. The victims would not expose themselves to litigation since the old man, a) pleaded guilty to the crime, and b) is dead and therefore cannot be libeled anyway.

26 posted on 01/28/2004 3:06:16 PM PST by beckett
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To: beckett
But, if any among them is strong enough, they are presented with an opportunity to do their part in stemming the tide of sympathy for child molestors currently fashionable in some quarters

Point taken. After I posted my response to you, I was thinking about how I would react if God forbid, this had happened to one of my precious children, or nieces/nephews. The more I thought about it, I came to this conclusion. I would urge them to fight back, and I would join them with every fiber of my being.

I'm an entertainment junkie. I love TV, music, and film. The Hollywood liberals are slowly but surely taking every ounce of enjoyment away from me with their mucked up, liberal values.

For the first time, in years, I will not be watching the Oscars. I remember as a child, mom letting us stay up to watch part of them before bedtime. They are especially tainted this year with this farce of a nomination. I don't know how much of a difference I can make, but I will urge my family and friends to do the same.

27 posted on 01/28/2004 3:37:06 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: LisaMalia; beckett
One can finally determine how utterly warped these people are. A film glorifying child molestation is an Oscar nominee.

Yet Mel Gibson's film about Christ is roundly criticized, lambasted for any number of dubious reasons.

It exposes the elitist contempt these people have for middle-class American values that they disdain Mel's religious film but, by their silence, endorse the pedophilia film.

We are dealing with a weird bunch here. These are very disturbed individuals.

28 posted on 01/29/2004 3:46:01 AM PST by Liz
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To: beckett
Big Media treats Michael Jackson and the Friedmans with kid gloves because the truth about them suggests some things about Hollywood itself that would make their priest-hating witch hunt look like nothing in comparison.
29 posted on 01/29/2004 4:28:19 AM PST by Mmmike
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To: Liz
Did you actually see this film? I saw this documentary, and it hardly glorifies child molestation. While it uses the family's home movies (interspersed with interviews), you can only come away with the fact that the father is an incredibly sick pedophile.

That said, I wish you would further explain how this documentary glorifies child molestation.

30 posted on 01/29/2004 4:44:20 AM PST by writmeister
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To: writmeister
I'd be happy to elaborate.

I saw clips of the film. But I am responding mostly to the massive PR effort launched by Jarecki and the surviving molester to get his conviction overturned. They now say he lied to the court when pleading guilty (which itself is a crime) and that he never abused kids.

I am convinced he intends to get the conviction overturned and then sue for damages which would force his victims to subsidize his crimes.

I also know that the biggest club Hollywood wields is proselytizing---that is to say brainwashing audiences without their knowledge or consent.

The news piece posted also indicates the community is in turmoil about the Jarecki film ----they know they are being co-opted by the child molester.

Because the film might show the deceased monster as a molester, the overall intent is to densensitize the public to child molestation..... a lonterm goal of the North American Man Boy Lovers Association (NAMBLA). You may or may not know that NAMBLA has approached schools--- and, in fact, may be in some schools----teaching about their particular aberration.

Judging by your response, the Jarecki MO is succeeding.

31 posted on 01/29/2004 5:07:30 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
No. I walked away from the film even more convinced that the father was a child molester who deserved the sentence he received. I also firmly believe that he molested each of his children as well as his brother.

I agree with you that the oldest son's hope was to use the home movies to exonerate his father, but (at least for me) the film only further demonstrated the father's guilt. By the end of the documentary, everytime I saw the father I felt sick to my stomach. Plus, the father essentially admitted his guilt in the documentary.

I do not disagree that the Hollyweird crowd is in constant attack on traditional values and I do not disagree with you about NAMBLA. That said, I found that this film did not glorify child abuse, did not make the father sympathetic, or did not excuse him. If their goal was to do so, I think they failed.

I did not feel desensitized at all, I only felt revolted.

32 posted on 01/29/2004 5:17:43 AM PST by writmeister
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To: writmeister
Glad we agree on some points.

You might have responded as I did had you seen the interview the surviving Friedman did with Matt Lauer on Dateline Tuesday PM. Even liberal Lauer was unsympathetic to the molester's claims of innocence.

The judge in the case years ago was also interviewed. She said she saw nothing that would indicate the charges were false and that discredited "recovered memory" was used by the children molested. She's not in the film I gather.

In the final analysis you have to ask several questions: Why would the family actually make the realtime videos that comprise most of the film?

Why would someone plead guilty to over 100 heinous acts if they were innocent?

What is Jarecki's motive?

Incidentally, Jarecki is the guy who made a fortune on his idea for the movie phone.

33 posted on 01/29/2004 5:29:53 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
I did not see the Dateline interview. Whenever I see anyone associated with the Today show, I instinctively change the channel. Otherwise, I will start yelling at the television, which upsets my dog.

What I would have liked to see is an interview with the third son -- who refused to participate in the documentary.

As to why they made the videos, I cannot even fathom an answer.

34 posted on 01/29/2004 7:48:36 AM PST by writmeister
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To: writmeister
I feel the same about the Today crowd.

Lauer is not usually scheduled on Dateline, at least to my knowledge......but the Freidman segment was hyped and lokked like a must-see. I'm glad I caught it.

I do know that Hollywarped gives out Oscars with a subrosa political agenda in mind.

The Friedman scumbag was blatantly homosexual.....so the Oscar may be Follywood's attempt to give the degenerate creep visibility to advance the homo agenda.

Now that the USSC has endorsed the lifestyle, Friedman may start screaming discrimination any day now. Oh, how they love being "victims."

35 posted on 01/29/2004 8:36:14 AM PST by Liz
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To: js1138
I'm not sure if age would have much affect on false memories. If they are attached to real incidents there may be no way to untangle them.

I think my point was that if it is possible to influence someone to develop false memories, which I believe it is, it is probably easier to do with small children, who are often a little vague on the difference between reality and imagination anyway.

36 posted on 01/29/2004 10:01:17 PM PST by Restorer
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