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Driver License Issue Returns
Press Enterprise | 1/29/04 | Jim Miller

Posted on 01/29/2004 2:02:41 PM PST by TatooChick

Copyright 2004 The Press Enterprise Co. Press Enterprise (Riverside, CA)

January 28, 2004, Wednesday

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LENGTH: 635 words

HEADLINE: Driver license issue returns; REPLACEMENT: The governor is confident he can legalize the road for undocumented residents.

BYLINE: JIM MILLER; SACRAMENTO BUREAU/THE PRESS-ENTERPRISE

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SACRAMENTO Gov. Schwarzenegger said Tuesday he was "absolutely positive we'll come up with a great bill" to replace a law granting driver licenses to undocumented immigrants that was repealed days after he took office. It was a strong sign he supports giving driver licenses to California residents in the state illegally. Schwarzenegger said his office has been working closely with state Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, to craft a successor to SB 60. The law became a lighting rod for criticism during last summer's recall campaign and was repealed at Schwarzenegger's insistence. Many Republicans remain opposed to the idea. And polls conducted last year showed a majority of Californians against giving driver licenses to undocumented immigrants. But Schwarzenegger said he is confident of the outcome. "It's one of those things that we'll all have to get together and see that this is a good idea and this is the way we move forward," Schwarzenegger said at a Sacramento Press Club lunch. "I'm talking with my Republican friends all the time about it and also with my Democratic friends. We will do it." Tentative agreement has been reached to grant driver licenses to all undocumented immigrants, with the licenses looking identical to those of other residents, said Dan Savage, Cedillo's chief of staff. Talks continue on insurance requirements and verifying applicants' identities; those issues were sticking points for Schwarzenegger in the earlier bill. Subjecting applicants to background checks - a demand by some GOP legislators - has not been a main topic during the negotiations, Savage said. Assemblyman John J. Benoit, R-Palm Desert, co-author of legislation repealing SB 60, said he and other Republican colleagues still oppose the idea. "To actually give a legal document to an illegal immigrant, I'm not there," Benoit said. Backers welcomed Schwarzenegger's apparent support. "There's definitely a need for it," said Jesse Diaz, 39, a graduate student at UC Riverside and a member of the Mexican-American Political Foundation. "They're going to drive regardless. It's just now the rules will be safer. They're going to have insurance. There will be driver's training. It will be great." Undocumented immigrants were eligible for driver licenses until a decade ago, when the Legislature changed the law. An estimated 2 million people of driving age are in California illegally. After blocking a similar bill in 2002, former Gov. Gray Davis signed SB 60 in September. Critics charged that he was pandering to Latinos before the recall. Schwarzenegger denounced the law during his recall campaign. Meanwhile, conservative groups collected signatures to qualify a referendum for the March ballot. The Legislature's majority Democrats begrudgingly voted to repeal the law in late November. Since then, however, the circumstances of the driver-license debate have changed. Earlier this month, President Bush proposed giving undocumented workers temporary legal status under a plan that would match workers with U.S. employers. The proposal must still be approved by Congress. "If there is a likelihood of a legal worker program, then we ought to wait and see what that is," Benoit said. Republicans might be more receptive to giving driver licenses to people with temporary work permits, he added. The proposed legislation to replace SB 60, tentatively numbered SB 1160, initially will contain only placeholder language as Cedillo and Schwarzenegger try to hammer out a deal. "At this point we're very confident," Savage said. "They're very engaged, and they're starting to focus on this as an important piece of legislation."

GRAPHIC: Gov. Schwarzenegger at the Sacramento Press Club: "This is the way we move forward."; MUG

LOAD-DATE: January 28, 2004


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; driverslicense; gilcedillo; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; sb1160; schwarzenegger
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I hope all of the "Conservatives" in California who voted for Arnie are beginning to feel the error of their ways.

Perhaps when faced with sending a moderate to a Federal office as opposed to a "REAL" conservative, they will think twice before putting an "X" beside a name that means more capitulation.

We need Howard Kaloogian and Rico Oller in office. There is no alternative anymore.

1 posted on 01/29/2004 2:02:43 PM PST by TatooChick
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To: TatooChick
RINO !!!!!! ALERT !
2 posted on 01/29/2004 2:07:06 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: TatooChick
I will help you format this a bit better :)

In the meantime - GO HOWARD!


www.HowardForSenate.com

3 posted on 01/29/2004 2:07:18 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: TatooChick
We'll get out petitions to put a new law to a referendum again. The ultimate solution though, is to pass the Son Of Proposition 187 which would prohibit ANY kind of benefit for illegal aliens. Arnold, sorry but you're on the wrong side insofar as public opinion is concerned with drivers' licenses. And we're going to fight back.
5 posted on 01/29/2004 2:10:35 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Impeach98
Driver license issue returns

REPLACEMENT: The governor is confident he can legalize the road for undocumented residents.

JIM MILLER; SACRAMENTO BUREAU/THE PRESS-ENTERPRISE

SACRAMENTO Gov. Schwarzenegger said Tuesday he was "absolutely positive we'll come up with a great bill" to replace a law granting driver licenses to undocumented immigrants that was repealed days after he took office. It was a strong sign he supports giving driver licenses to California residents in the state illegally.

Schwarzenegger said his office has been working closely with state Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, to craft a successor to SB 60. The law became a lighting rod for criticism during last summer's recall campaign and was repealed at Schwarzenegger's insistence. Many Republicans remain opposed to the idea. And polls conducted last year showed a majority of Californians against giving driver licenses to undocumented immigrants. But Schwarzenegger said he is confident of the outcome.

"It's one of those things that we'll all have to get together and see that this is a good idea and this is the way we move forward," Schwarzenegger said at a Sacramento Press Club lunch. "I'm talking with my Republican friends all the time about it and also with my Democratic friends. We will do it."

Tentative agreement has been reached to grant driver licenses to all undocumented immigrants, with the licenses looking identical to those of other residents, said Dan Savage, Cedillo's chief of staff.

Talks continue on insurance requirements and verifying applicants' identities; those issues were sticking points for Schwarzenegger in the earlier bill. Subjecting applicants to background checks - a demand by some GOP legislators - has not been a main topic during the negotiations, Savage said. Assemblyman John J. Benoit, R-Palm Desert, co-author of legislation repealing SB 60, said he and other Republican colleagues still oppose the idea. "To actually give a legal document to an illegal immigrant, I'm not there," Benoit said.

Backers welcomed Schwarzenegger's apparent support. "There's definitely a need for it," said Jesse Diaz, 39, a graduate student at UC Riverside and a member of the Mexican-American Political Foundation.

"They're going to drive regardless. It's just now the rules will be safer. They're going to have insurance. There will be driver's training. It will be great."

Undocumented immigrants were eligible for driver licenses until a decade ago, when the Legislature changed the law. An estimated 2 million people of driving age are in California illegally. After blocking a similar bill in 2002, former Gov. Gray Davis signed SB 60 in September. Critics charged that he was pandering to Latinos before the recall.

Schwarzenegger denounced the law during his recall campaign. Meanwhile, conservative groups collected signatures to qualify a referendum for the March ballot. The Legislature's majority Democrats begrudgingly voted to repeal the law in late November. Since then, however, the circumstances of the driver-license debate have changed.

Earlier this month, President Bush proposed giving undocumented workers temporary legal status under a plan that would match workers with U.S. employers. The proposal must still be approved by Congress. "If there is a likelihood of a legal worker program, then we ought to wait and see what that is," Benoit said.

Republicans might be more receptive to giving driver licenses to people with temporary work permits, he added. The proposed legislation to replace SB 60, tentatively numbered SB 1160, initially will contain only placeholder language as Cedillo and Schwarzenegger try to hammer out a deal. "At this point we're very confident," Savage said. "They're very engaged, and they're starting to focus on this as an important piece of legislation."

6 posted on 01/29/2004 2:11:38 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: TatooChick
I hope all of the "Conservatives" in California who voted for Arnie are beginning to feel the error of their ways.

No. Why should we?

7 posted on 01/29/2004 2:12:11 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: TatooChick
If Shortsneaker gets DL's for any Illegalien, every other state of the union should refuse all Califoreignia DL's as ID.
8 posted on 01/29/2004 2:14:40 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: TatooChick
Why or why can't they just use their Mexican licenses? They are perfectly legal here...
maybe because they want a "legit" license to match their stolen Social Security Number? Naw that couldn't be it, they would never break the law...
9 posted on 01/29/2004 2:15:30 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: TatooChick
Paragraphs are your friend (and mine - the above is hard to read due to its monolithic structure).

10 posted on 01/29/2004 2:16:45 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: TatooChick
I hope all of the "Conservatives" in California who voted for Arnie are beginning to feel the error of their ways.

Excellent logic there, TC.

Had more voters wasted their votes on McNeverhadachance bustamechA might have won and we'd be facing an $8 billion tax increase.

11 posted on 01/29/2004 2:19:10 PM PST by South40 (My vote helped defeat cruz bustamante; did yours?)
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To: goldstategop
"The ultimate solution though, is to pass the Son Of Proposition 187 which would prohibit ANY kind of benefit for illegal aliens."

Would the New Prop 187 block Illegals from getting any state ID or do you need a seperate referendum?
12 posted on 01/29/2004 2:21:28 PM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: South40
He never had a chance because you didn't vote for him!
13 posted on 01/29/2004 2:23:47 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: Sabertooth; kellynla
*Ping*!
14 posted on 01/29/2004 2:24:24 PM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: Impeach98
He never had a chance because you didn't vote for him!

Really? So he only lost by one vote and that vote was mine!?

More great logic from the McClintockistas.

15 posted on 01/29/2004 2:26:09 PM PST by South40 (My vote helped defeat cruz bustamante; did yours?)
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To: All
www.Save187.com - SIGN THE PETITION!
16 posted on 01/29/2004 2:26:41 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: South40
Since McClintock's favorable-unfavorable ratings were higher on election day than Arnold's.

And since McClintock's numbersare STILL higher than Arnold's to this very day.

I'd say yes - there were an awful lot of voters who voted for Arnold because they didn't believe McClintock could win.

But the funny thing was - if they had just voted for McClintock, we'd have Governor Tom McClintock - and no drivers license for illegal alien sellout.

P.S. - If you respond, try and lay off the slander with regard's to McClintock's name. I'll call Governor Schwarzenegger Arnold or Schwarzenegger if you call McClintock Tom or McClintock or Senator McClintock.

Otherwise you just lower the decency of the debate which helps no one.

17 posted on 01/29/2004 2:30:12 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: little jeremiah
It's been reformatted - see post #3 I believe.
18 posted on 01/29/2004 2:30:58 PM PST by Impeach98
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To: TatooChick; Impeach98; kellynla; Sabertooth
If you want to derail this plan, I suggest you CaliFreepers work to have the Bond referendum fail.

That way, Arnie will be so busy trying to avoid a default after the bonds fail that he won't have time to pass a controversial bill like this.

If he can't pass it in 2004 he won't try to pass it in 2005-2006 because he will have to worry about his reelection campaign in a heavily Democratic state.
19 posted on 01/29/2004 2:31:02 PM PST by Pubbie (We would have the WMDs if Powell and Rice hadn't made a 6 month UN detour)
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To: Pubbie
Yes... it would prevent the politicians from pulling the rug out from us again. In the meantime, if they push this through and Arnold signs it into law, we will take it again for a vote of the people.
20 posted on 01/29/2004 2:32:36 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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