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VANITY: The best way to keep America a sovereign free nation is to keep the Democrats out of power!
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Posted on 01/29/2004 5:54:35 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Will Bush solve the illegal immigration problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the government spending problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the campaign finance problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the drug war problem? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the nation's education problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the so-called healthcare problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the so-called environmental problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the social security problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush solve the medicare problems? Probably not. But neither will Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Clark or Hillary. Chances are, they'd make it worse. Probably far worse.

Will Bush defend America from those bent on destroying her? You'd better bet your sweet bippy he will.

Will any of the Democrats defend America? Hell no they won't. They'd rather turn us over to the U.N. They'd surrender to the French Foreign Legion if given the chance.

Will Bush appoint conservative judges? Yup!

Will Kerry, Edwards, Clark, Hillary, et al, appoint conservative judges? Yeah, right. And hell will freeze over tomorrow.

Will Bush continue reducing taxes? Yup.

Will Kerry, Edwards, Clark, Hillary, et al, raise your taxes as soon as they possibly can if given the opportunity and continue raising them until hell freezes over? Yup.

Will Bush defend the right to life? Check

Will Bush defend marriage between a man a woman? Check

Will Bush defend the right to keep and bear arms? Check

Will Bush say no to Kyoto? Check.

Will Bush say no to a world court? Check.

Will Bush say no to the U.N.? Check.

Will Kerry, Edwards, Clark, Hillary, et al, remove our national sovereignty and subjugate America to world government? Just as quickly as they possibly can if given the opportunity.

Will any other person be elected to the Presidency in 2004 other than Bush (God willing) or a Democrat? Obviously not.

Doesn't make a lick of sense to me to allow the America hating, freedom hating Democrats back into power now that we've kicked them out.

Say yes to sovereignty for America and continued freedom for all Americans.

Say no to the RATS!!


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To: TruthNtegrity; Ophiucus
Please read post #53
201 posted on 01/29/2004 7:20:40 PM PST by Tempest
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To: M Kehoe
If he doesn't vote.

Sitting out the election, and not exercising your right to vote is, IMO, being a lousy American.

202 posted on 01/29/2004 7:21:14 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: onyx
Claims to reside here... like not being able to take the country out of a country boy, guess we can't take the DUH out of nanodik.

Is that kind of vitriol really necessary? We're having a nice discussion here; people of differing opinions are being reasonably respectful. Then you come along with comments like these and incite a flamefest.

Perhaps you'd consider dialing the rhetoric back a notch? Thanks in advance.

203 posted on 01/29/2004 7:21:18 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: yonif
But wouldn't a Democratic president be stopped by the GOP gridlock in Congress?

That wouldn't stop them. They would just call on one of their appointed judges to legislate from the BENCH!

204 posted on 01/29/2004 7:21:23 PM PST by hobson (Don't sweat the petty things. Don't pet the sweaty things.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you for posting this.

Though I don't agree with the President on all issues (who does?) I will NOT hand the reins of government over to the socialists!

Those who vote third-party or write-in as a "protest" of illegal immigration issues or spending issues are really saying it's OK to punish the American people with the likes of a Kerry or a Dean so the Republican party can be "sent a message".

What excuse will they give when there are terror-bombed cities, martial law, and the abolishment of personal property? "I didn't know it would be this bad"? "

It'll be way too late once the chains are fastened.
205 posted on 01/29/2004 7:21:50 PM PST by petuniasevan (New Tagline Found! (S)teal (I)gnore (C)orrect spelling ?)
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To: Jim Robinson
As you well know, Jim, we have a higher percentage of Freepers who are inclined to vote third party than exist in the general population.

As a result, we're going to see more conservative opposition to Bush expressed here at this forum than is representative of the nation.

There's nothing we can do or should do about that. Conservatives do not have to be Republicans.

However, if they want to prevent Democrats from running this country, they do have to support and vote for Republicans in state and national elections.

If not, they are wasting their vote, no matter how hard they whine that they're not.

No third party will ever win a national election until they've been successful consistently at the local or state level.

A victory for Bush is critical to the future of this country. Supreme Court justices serve for 30 years or more, and we're facing a bunch of upcoming vacancies.

This should be a no-brainer for any conservative. Perhaps it is. Perhaps the whiners post one way and vote another. I hope so.

206 posted on 01/29/2004 7:22:06 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: NittanyLion
It does to me! I want to know if someone posting on this thread about our election in November is eligible to vote in our elections. What's wrong with that?
207 posted on 01/29/2004 7:22:07 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Nanodik
And after all that, why would you want to give the Dems even more opportunity to push their socialism on us? Doesn't make any sense.

Vote the Dems out and keep them out. That's what has never been done.
208 posted on 01/29/2004 7:22:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: Jim Robinson
How close is this election in your opinion?
209 posted on 01/29/2004 7:22:22 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Nanodik
Funny how the Dems somehow managed to push socialism as far as they have without all the things the RP is asking for. Why not, give them the 60 senators they need and I will look forward to the creative excuses they will come up with for not rolling back govt.

As I see your point about the 60 senators, I guess the only explanation I can give is that our side doesn't play dirty tricks like the Dems do.

Our side doesn't use and abuse our national security secrets to score political points like the Dems as we found out in the leaked Select Intell Memo

Our side doesn't abuse the justice systems like the Dems do as we found out in the leaked JC Memo

Are you saying we should throw our principals out the window and fight dirty like the Democrats do?

210 posted on 01/29/2004 7:22:25 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: NittanyLion
I broke no rules and YOU should be far more than " ashamed ", for whinging about my post and ignoring the post I was replying to.

And WHAT would you call YOUR post to me, other than a personal attack,baiting, an invitation to a flame war,and a senseless diatribe ? :-)

211 posted on 01/29/2004 7:22:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Brad's Gramma
Come on, do better than name calling. Just because a group of us agree on something, we're sheep?

If it was any other FReeper besides Jim Robinson who created this Vanity thread my "sheep" comment would be a non-issue.

212 posted on 01/29/2004 7:22:51 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: *Jim_Rob list
See this bump-list here:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/involved?group=296
213 posted on 01/29/2004 7:23:09 PM PST by petuniasevan (New Tagline Found! (S)teal (I)gnore (C)orrect spelling ?)
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To: ohioWfan
doesn't know diddly squat about the President's efforts to get conservatives in the judiciary

Efforts don't pass SCOTUS decisions. Based upon his inability to force through a latino conservative (by press accounts) to a federal appellate position, what makes you think he will provide us with the next Rehnquist to the SC? I have plenty of evidence the guy will cave to the Dems to get "something" passed. Remember the edumacation bill that was going to have school choice as a center piece? No school choice, but plenty of money for the DOE to toss around and penned by Kennedy no less! What are you guys going to do when he puts forth a middle of the road, swing vote to the Supreme Court? Claim it was the fact that he did not have 60 Rep senators to back him up?

214 posted on 01/29/2004 7:23:33 PM PST by Nanodik (Bush! The next best thing to a real "conservative")
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To: PhiKapMom
Where did you get 25% for NEA increase and while you are at it

You are right to ask me that question. I am, in fact, wrong. It's going up 33%.

Bush Is Said to Seek More Money for Arts [$15 million to $20 million for NEA]

do you know what the increase is going to fund?

I couldn't begin to care. The federal government does not belong in spending on the arts.

215 posted on 01/29/2004 7:23:40 PM PST by Lazamataz (Have you prayed to President Bush today?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Sorry Jim, you can convince the flock of sheep here to vote for Bush. But my vote's going to the Constitution Party.

I find it hilarious that you, claiming great principles, feel the need to demean those of us who have different opinions than yours as sheep.

And since you're insisting that something is wrong with us unless we agree with YOU, what the HELL does that make you, other than a lockstepper?

216 posted on 01/29/2004 7:24:12 PM PST by Howlin (http://www.icomm.ca/dragon/image/hbook3.gif)
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To: ohioWfan
bump!
Thanks, ohio!
217 posted on 01/29/2004 7:24:41 PM PST by mamaduck (I follow a New Age Guru . . . from 2000 years ago.)
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To: PhiKapMom
It does to me! I want to know if someone posting on this thread about our election in November is eligible to vote in our elections. What's wrong with that?

It neither supports nor invalidates the arguments he's made. Quite frankly, it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. Hence the reason I asked whether his comments are any more or less valid based on his citizenship (the answer is no, just like you and I can hold strong opinions about the French while sitting here in the Good Ole US of A).

218 posted on 01/29/2004 7:24:42 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Jim Robinson
bump
219 posted on 01/29/2004 7:24:44 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: The Shootist
I'll go for that. The sooner the better. But, in the meantime, we need to do all we can to keep the Demos out. It's important to keep majority power out of Democrat hands
220 posted on 01/29/2004 7:25:16 PM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: BlkConserv
Who cares, throw your vote away and get Kerry elected.

But according to you and others who blindly support the President's policies, my vote is insignificant anyway.

So there's nothing for you to worry about, right?

221 posted on 01/29/2004 7:25:17 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: NYC Republican
Southack and Wolfstar have come up with one fantastic list. Thanks for reminding us about it.
222 posted on 01/29/2004 7:25:30 PM PST by kitkat (Purr, purr SNOOZE)
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To: Lazamataz
I hope you know that I respect your intellect, but your tag line doesn't do you justice..

5.56mm

223 posted on 01/29/2004 7:25:44 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Nanodik
Are you aware that school choice is in the Omnibus bill?

Are you aware that Pickering was appointed in a recess appointment?

Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

224 posted on 01/29/2004 7:25:45 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: nutmeg
You're not kidding me. You just like typing that. :-)
225 posted on 01/29/2004 7:25:49 PM PST by Howlin (http://www.icomm.ca/dragon/image/hbook3.gif)
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To: Wolfstar; WKB; dixiechick2000; bourbon; wardaddy; Yudan; afuturegovernor; Magnolia; ...
Thanks for the ping, Onyx. I might have missed this otherwise.

Everyone needs to read this.

*ping* and please pass it on

226 posted on 01/29/2004 7:27:02 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Mo1
Are you saying we should throw our principals out the window and fight dirty like the Democrats do?

I think the enemy sets the rules of engagement. Certainly, they can use the filibuster, the budgetary shut-down, the bully-pulpit and other resources much better than they have to this point. Politics is a dirty business and if you are not prepared to get dirty, stay home.

BTW I don't think all those leaks you write of really led to more socialism in the US.

227 posted on 01/29/2004 7:27:06 PM PST by Nanodik (Bush! The next best thing to a real "conservative")
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To: Tempest
Please read post #53

Don''t you hate it when that happens on a LONG thread? :-)

228 posted on 01/29/2004 7:27:17 PM PST by Howlin (http://www.icomm.ca/dragon/image/hbook3.gif)
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To: nopardons
I broke no rules and YOU should be far more than " ashamed ", for whinging about my post and ignoring the post I was replying to.

You attacked the person's citizenship, claimed they speak out of both sides of their mouth, and told them to leave the forum. That's pretty obviously a personal attack.

And WHAT would you call YOUR post to me, other than a personal attack,baiting, an invitation to a flame war,and a senseless diatribe ? :-)

An attempt at self policing on the part of responsible posters. Too many of these threads degenerate into flamefests, and it's because of overly personal attacks like the one you made above.

I'd hate to see a very congenial thread degenerate into flames, that's all.

229 posted on 01/29/2004 7:28:07 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Dog Gone
Just a point of difference. Not all who claim conservatism as the reason for their disapproval of President Bush's performance are what they say they are.

Sheep's clothing, you know..........

Unfortunately, it's hard to tell the difference between the DU trolls and the 'true' conservatives these days.......

230 posted on 01/29/2004 7:28:45 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
If it was any other FReeper besides Jim Robinson who created this Vanity thread my "sheep" comment would be a non-issue.

Not in my eyes. I've gotten sick of the sheep/Kool-Aid/yada yada yada YADA gritching and complaining.

MY hope, dream and PRAYER is for this country to remain free and safe so my little Brad and all the little "Brad's" in America...can grow up free.

231 posted on 01/29/2004 7:28:50 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Vote for GW or I'll beat you up with my walker, cane and sundry old lady items.)
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To: ohioWfan
Then you'll be a lousy American.

Actually, I was using shorthand when talking to Jim about my intentions. At this time, I would go to the ballot and put a blank entry in on the Presidential ticket.

I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be.

It's important that I go to the balloting place. That is my duty and right as an American. And it would be important to me that I let them know, None Of The Above, with my blank entry.

Besides, there are local and state races that will not fill me with enui.

232 posted on 01/29/2004 7:29:03 PM PST by Lazamataz (Have you prayed to President Bush today?)
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To: Jim Robinson; ohioWfan; PhiKapMom
BRAVO BUMP


233 posted on 01/29/2004 7:29:14 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: NittanyLion; Howlin
You do not tell me a damn thing. You do little else besides stalk and bait. It's obvious you never have a happy day. Pathetic.
234 posted on 01/29/2004 7:30:06 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Nanodik
You are not taking into account the Biased liberal media.
235 posted on 01/29/2004 7:30:16 PM PST by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: Jim Robinson; RJayneJ
Fabulous essay. Hereby nominated for essay of the week. Thanks.
236 posted on 01/29/2004 7:30:16 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Jim Robinson

237 posted on 01/29/2004 7:30:52 PM PST by kayak (Have you prayed for our President and our troops today?)
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To: Jim Robinson
That's fine by me. How many voters you guys got signed up now?

Since the Constitution Party doesn't accept taxpayer funds, I would say that we probably have less than 250,000 dues-paying members nationwide.

We're in the minority, Jim. But 3rd parties were supposedly in the minority in 2000, too - and we all know what happened then.

Remember, every vote counts!

238 posted on 01/29/2004 7:30:52 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: M Kehoe
I hope you know that I respect your intellect, but your tag line doesn't do you justice.

Thank you sir, and if you hate my tag line, just wait. It, like the weather, changes often. ;^)

239 posted on 01/29/2004 7:30:57 PM PST by Lazamataz (Have you prayed to President Bush today?)
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To: ohioWfan
school choice is in the Omnibus bill

You mean for D.C.? Could care less, I don't live in D.C.

Are you aware that Pickering was appointed in a recess appointment?

That will work great so long as they'll let him make a recess appointment to the SCOTUS.

Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.

I guess the only ones that really know what they are talking about are the ones that still claim that Dubya is all that and a bag of chips, right?

240 posted on 01/29/2004 7:31:02 PM PST by Nanodik (Bush! The next best thing to a real "conservative")
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To: Jim Robinson
A Democrat president wouldn't be able to crowbar half the loony leftist crap through a Republican-controlled Congress that Bush has been able to heave over the fence. A conservative president and a Repubican-controlled Congress is the right remedy for what ails us. If in this election our current president should forfeit his office by playing too loose in a mad gamble to win the support of the left, the next best remedy is to add to the Republican strength in Congress. A Kerry administration would go down in history rivalling the Buchanan, Grant, and Harding administrations for sheer uselnessness and futility.

I do not share the popular sentiment of the posters here who meekly give Bush a pass on whatever he wants to do out of pusillanimous fear of the Democrats.

Conservatives should be made of sterner stuff.

241 posted on 01/29/2004 7:31:30 PM PST by Kevin Curry (Dems' magnificent four: Shrieking Nikita, Frenchie La Lurch , Gen. Jack D. Ripper, and Lionel Putz)
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To: Nanodik
BTW I don't think all those leaks you write of really led to more socialism in the US.

Hmmm blocking judges so the Dems could push their agenda didn't lead to more socialism?

And I do believe we tried the filibuster .. but without 60, we aren't going to get the important things passed

242 posted on 01/29/2004 7:31:37 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Agreed! Thanks JR. I don't agree with Bush 100%, but I don't agree with anybody 100%.

I think there are things open to discussion in his plans.

But Bush is definitely our hope at the moment. Conservatives who say they are not going to vote for Bush because they don't agree 100% are going to make sure that a Dem is elected. But that may not bother them - one poster ticked off by the immigration plan (who of course offered no constructive suggestions) actually wanted a Tancredo/Kucinich ticket, because she said they agree on that issue. They probably do. In other words, extremes meet.

I have been very worried that FR was being used as an anti-Bush tool by Dem infiltrators, based on the hate-filled and irrational tone of recent (supposedly conservative) postings I have read here. Thanks for correcting things.
243 posted on 01/29/2004 7:32:01 PM PST by livius
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To: Lazamataz
" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."

Can I use that as my tag line? That is an excellent replacement for what I'm saying now. You hit a home run there Laz...
244 posted on 01/29/2004 7:32:23 PM PST by Beck_isright ("Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."-Alexander Hamilton)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"We're in the minority, Jim. But 3rd parties were supposedly in the minority in 2000, too - and we all know what happened then."

YOU have got to be KIDDING ME.....you're PROUD of being a Third Party Spoiler....we almost got Gored, and YOU ARE PROUD OF IT?

245 posted on 01/29/2004 7:32:35 PM PST by goodnesswins (For those Voting Dem/Constitution Party/Libertarian - I guess it's easier than using your brain.)
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To: Nanodik
I fear you have yet to understand the advise and consent part of judge nominations.The dems broke tradition by not allowing a vote in the full senate on nominees that were approved by the committee.It takes 60 votes to overcome this ploy.We don't have 60 votes.
246 posted on 01/29/2004 7:32:41 PM PST by MEG33 (America will never seek a permission slip to provide for the security of our country)
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To: Lazamataz
OK. Missed the 'shorthand.' Sorry.

I didn't figure you'd do that anyway......which is why I said, "THEN......"

Although, I have serious problems with leaving a blank and risking one of these RATS' getting into the WH.

It's certainly not a risk I'd want to take as a Conservative, no matter how vehemently I opposed some of the President's policies.

247 posted on 01/29/2004 7:32:46 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: hoosiermama
You are not taking into account the Biased liberal media.

Reagan managed to work around this, and he did not have Fox, Drudge, Rush, et al. to help him out. Like I said, if they are unwilling to lead then they should get out of the way and let someone who is willing to take over.

248 posted on 01/29/2004 7:32:46 PM PST by Nanodik (Bush! The next best thing to a real "conservative")
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To: Howlin
Has anyone besides me noticed how SHORT these pro-Bush threads are?

There's only so many ways to say "agreed." Then, the anti-Bush attacks are predictable and repeatative so the digression there gets pretty boring.

249 posted on 01/29/2004 7:32:50 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Mr. Mojo
You make a lot of good and sensible points. There is nothing disloyal or improper about speaking out against policies that one doesn't agree with.

Grass roots -- the President can't position himself too far from the center of the country politically if he is to win. Just look at the Senate & House -- closely divided.

What we all need to do is keep trying to move more citizens to the Right -- which will elect more Republicans and more conservatives -- and that in turn moves the Presidency to the Right.

But to drop out altogether or support a 'Rat -- that just doesn't help. And 3rd parties -- come ON, there aren't any third parties with any Congressmen or any other power in this country, and that won't change.
250 posted on 01/29/2004 7:33:25 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (DUBYA 2004 - RATS NEVERMORE!!!)
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