Punk the prez? - Moby's anti-Bush tricks

New York Daily News ^ | 2/09/04 | Rush & Molloy

[kattracks]

One of Sen. John Kerry's celebrity supporters is ready to pull out all the stops to get him elected. Republicans are shrieking over a suggestion by rocker Moby that Democrats spread gossip about President Bush on the Internet. "No one's talking about how to keep the other side home on Election Day," Moby tells us. "It's a lot easier than you think and it doesn't cost that much. This election can be won by 200,000 votes."

Moby suggests that it's possible to seed doubt among Bush's far-right supporters on the Web.

"You target his natural constituencies," says the Grammy-nominated techno-wizard. "For example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you're an outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion.

"Then you go to an anti-immigration Web site chat room and ask, 'What's all this about George Bush proposing amnesty for illegal aliens?'"

Moby didn't claim that he believed the abortion story.

Last month, Bush did propose reforms to immigration policy. But he insisted, "I oppose amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship [because it] perpetuates illegal immigration."

Republican National Committee spokeswoman Christine Iverson likened Moby's proposal to "dirty campaign tactics we're already seeing from John Kerry."

"His campaign was willing to use these kinds of voter suppression tactics against members of his own party in Iowa and New Hampshire," Iverson says. "John Kerry is a hypocrite. He pledged to run a clean campaign. Then he uses the lowest form of gutter politics to impugn his opponents, Democratic and Republican. It's unfortunate but this is probably just the beginning of the kind of tactics we're going to be seeing from John Kerry in the months to come."

Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said, "I doubt that Moby was suggesting anybody suppress the vote. We did not use any dirty tactics against any candidate.

"When it comes to dirty tricks the Republic party wrote the book. We've already seen Republican attacks and we haven't even won the nomination yet. The Republican Party is clearly afraid of John Kerry."

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With Ben Widdicombe and Suzanne Rozdeba

Originally published on February 8, 2004

[kattracks]

I think some of Moby's friends are already here.

[texasflower]

Yes, kattracks, I believe you are correct.

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=36284

[swilhelm73]

hmm...

"No one's talking about how to keep the other side home on Election Day," Moby tells us. "It's a lot easier than you think and it doesn't cost that much. This election can be won by 200,000 votes."

Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said, "I doubt that Moby was suggesting anybody suppress the vote.

So does the definition of "suppress", like the definition of "is" before it, vary when Democrats need it to?

And kattracks, you may be on to something about the Moby-bots invading FR. There has been rather alot of such criticism along these lines of late, and leftists do nothing so well as follow orders...

[Dont Mention the War]

Moby wouldn't want nasty rumors about him spread, now would he? Nor would he want his web site's bulletin board overrun by Republicans, now would he?

[weegee]

One thing that the article does not address is that when these Democrat Bush Haters come to a conservative forum to play their agitprop games and tell long disproven lies, they will hoot and holler about "censorship" when they are banned. The left lies - often and loudly.

[Hawkeye's Girl]

Yup, unfortunately.

A lot of people here who don't like Bush are fine folks and great members of this forum, but we ignore the stealth disruptors at our peril. The number of "I'm a conservative but I'm not voting for Bush because of INSERT FRINGE ISSUE HERE" posts has drastically increased and not all of them are legitimate discussion by actual conservatives.

It's really too bad since not agreeing with the President doesn't make one a troll, but if we aren't aware that the left is trying to infiltrate and weaken this website, we're completely naive.

[Fledermaus]

Who is Moby?

I've never heard of him

[NYCVirago]

I think some of Moby's friends are already here.

Yep. And the silliest thing about Moby's idea is that he's just told the world the plan. Like a good pseudo-intellectual, he's so pleased with the cleverness of his scheme, that he had to let everybody know his little diabolical ideas.

[Fledermaus]

I love their assumptions of intelligence:

They're not going to feel sure anymore whether the person they are talking to and agreeing with or the person they are arguing against is real, or a dual stringing them along.

There's going to be entire threads of duals arguing back and forth. Everything said a Sheeper agrees with may just be a set up.

We've been setting up duals and sleepers for the past three years now. Some are pretty quiet. Some are pretty high profile. And we register new ones every day.

Like WE will have NO IDEA who they are. They actually believe they are smart enough to maintain a certain personality over time and not slip up! HA! (then again I might be one of the sleepers! oh no!!!!)

[NYCVirago]

Moby is this stupid techno artiste who sells out all his songs to commercials. He's perhaps most famous for being dissed by rapper Eminem.

[weegee]

Celebs hate it when they get conservatives talking politics on their "entertainment" forums. Of course these same entertainers will spout politics in the entertainment culture all the time and even their forums will rally up liberal causes and talking points.

What they mean is that conservatives should be quiet and put some ice on it if they don't like it.

I wouldn't advise posting anything on their sites. They will cite the most typoed or hate filled example and then mention how much traffic came from Free Republic (or some such site). Margaret Cho's administrator made these type of claims and then sent her rabid fans to FR to cause problems (they were directed to a linked thread that contained none of the racist comments that (s)he alledged).

[Fledermaus]

Just like all the Bond villians! LOL

[kattracks]

The only Moby I've ever heard of is Moby Dick. I'm sure there's some relationship between the two.

[Fledermaus]

Okay, that cleared it up. Who is Moby? lol

[swilhelm73]

In a way this is an extention of something the left has done for some time. They will often claim to be a moderate Republican, or a moderate, and claim that they are outraged by some Republican leader's stance, that is well within the norms of normal conservative and American thought.

Then with a little detective work you find out the supposed moderate/moderate Republican voted for Nader last election because Gore was "too far right wing"...

The press loves this trick of course, and, I presume, seeing as they are leftists themselves, are fully aware of the deception involved.

[Hawkeye's Girl]

Nobody listens to techno!

[MEG33]

FYI

[weegee]

We should compile a list of the companies who are using his songs for commercials and boycott them. Cut him off (it was the major source of income for him a few years ago and the primary reason for the gains in his recording career).

Defund the left.

[Texasforever]

The only Moby I've ever heard of is Moby Dick. I'm sure there's some relationship between the two.

Well shut my mouth.