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What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda
self | February 11, 2004 | little jeremiah

Posted on 02/11/2004 9:00:13 PM PST by little jeremiah

What We Can Do To Defeat The "Gay" Agenda

Dear Fellow Freepers,

The following informal essay has two parts, the first consisting of ideas of what individuals or small groups can do to help thwart, roll back, defeat and otherwise throw a monkey wrench into the onslaught of the "gay" agenda and their stated goal to destroy the moral fabric of society. I am hoping that discussion will ensue, with theoretical ideas as well as accomplished plans. Information and knowledge are the key. Since most people just watch TV and read the establishment media, which are lapdogs of the "gay" elite, they just do not know the truth about homosexuality.

The second part is my analysis of the root cause of the homosexual movement, going a bit deeper than environment and molestation. It is "religious" or "spiritual" in aspect, so anyone who wishes to avoid that type of discussion can avoid it! This analysis is germane to the cure, not only of the homosexual agenda, but the untrammeled hedonism and libertinism of which homosexuality is the poster child.

[Note: I am not attempting to recap the immediate causes of homosexuality, or prove that it is not inborn, or give evidence as to why same sex acts are abnormal, unhealthy, or immoral, or to prove that homosexuals can change. FR already has hundreds of archived articles of this nature.]

Part One: Ideas on Promoting the Truth about Homosexuality

A friend of ours homeschools her children, so as to protect them from the horrible influence of public schools, instill her personal moral values, and give them the best education possible. She knew that homosexuality was unhealthy, immoral, and unnatural, but until I gave her books and booklets I purchased from Scott Lively's website ( she was not able to articulate her viewpoint. After studying the materials I provided, she became a one-woman task force, gave her elderly father books to read, and shared the books with the charter/homeschool teacher. The teacher, who also had not been very well-informed, had her mind blown (so to speak) and ordered more materials for herself, and placed a link to Lively's website on her personal website. Lively has a number of very informative booklets that can be purchased in bulk cheap, and they are great for distributing. So because I informed one friend, many others have been informed. This particular charter school is all for homeschooled children, and there are about 500 families involved.

By purchasing Lively's materials (or reprints from other groups such as NAARTH and the Family Research Council) and making them available at your church, synagogue or other house of worship, many people can become informed. Materials can be purchased and mailed or given to pastors at other churches, or any organization or club that you belong to.

I have found that if I talk to people in the line at the grocery store, or the cashier, often people are happy to find that others have the same viewpoint, but they are afraid to admit that they think same sex acts to be unhealthy or wrong. Just by speaking up in public, we can encourage others to think for themselves, and not be intimidated by social pressure.

Of course, letters can be written to newspapers (they've never printed one of mine!), legislators, and media people. We could try calling up local talk radio shows to tell the truth or attend school board meetings to protest the homosexual infiltration of the schools. Of course, by doing any of these things we will be "outing" ourselves as homophobes ;-) but that's the risk one takes by speaking the truth.

And then there are guerilla tactics: print up some fact sheets about the nature of and diseases spread by homosexual acts, statistics about molestation rates, etc - make them colorful and readable, and broadcast them about town. Laudromats, bulletin boards in stores, public facilities, rest stops, community college or other educational institutions, any place you can find. Good places would be where there is a lot of foot traffic, especially where high school kids can see them. High schools kids are really being targeted by homosexual activists, so the more they can see the truth, the better.

Another post-it tactic: make or obtain stickers with the names and phone numbers of organizations that help people overcome homosexuality, and stick them near high schools, colleges, downtowns, and so on. You never know whose life might change because of one phone call. Or, place ads in the classified ads section of local newspapers or weekly magazines with the same information.

Other promotional ideas are bumper stickers (make you own, or maybe someone knows where to order pro-family stickers). Ideas for slogans: Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve; Marriage=One Man+One Woman; Children Need a Mother and Father, Not Two of a Kind; Same Sex Acts Are Not Healthy For Living Things; Want to get AIDS? Be Gay!; Don't confuse "Exit" with "Entry"; Don't Mess With Marriage; "Gay" Sex Isn't Gay…. These could also be signs in car windows, yard signs, signs held at rallies.

Protest at "Gay Pride" Parades. If protesting at such public events, wear protective clothing and go in groups, carry antiseptic handwipes and have a camera and maybe tape recorder. No telling what might ensue. Here's an idea that someone freepmailed to me, and it sounds good:

"I have an idea I'd like to pass your way. I suggest that we get permits to set up tables in front of (or near) our respective churches/synagogues along the local "Pride" parade routes this coming June, with literature about reparative therapy. Each table should also have someone there to document all the juvenile insults and threats thrown our way on a videocam, and send copies of the films to the local tv news to include as part of their coverage."

These are just a few ideas. Let's hear yours!

Part Two: The Root Cause of Homosexuality

Everyone needs happiness, love and pleasure. These needs stem directly from the soul, and get interpreted through the body - think of how many people eat because they are lonely, depressed, or in anxiety. A healthy balanced person will eat when hungry, and when in need of companionship will turn to a relative, friend, or even pet for company. The need for love is really paramount, a deeper need than the bodily requirements. What hurts more, a broken heart, or a hungry stomach? Our culture has denied the fact - basic to all religions (probably a few exceptions, but this is not the debate here) - that human beings even have souls, what to speak of the needs of the soul. In fact, the accepted "scientifically based" theory is that humans are just machines, made of chemicals, evolved by accident, and the "self" doesn’t even really exist. In an atmosphere of such impersonal nihilism, it is natural that many people will be easily convinced that real love, real happiness, real heart to heart connection, don't exist.

What can take its place? Instant pleasure. Shopping. Drug and alcohol abuse. Or, most seductive of all, orgasms. And since the sexual organs have no conscience, a wide variety of options is available to people who have been convinced that God doesn't exist, there are no rules - or higher purpose - to life, and instant gratification is the only yardstick to measure happiness with.

There are two kinds of happiness - the kind that comes from the outside - eating, sex, comforts, and the devices or arrangements that facilitate such, as well as more intangible pleasures such as accomplishments, goals achieved, music, arts, learning, and so on. The second kind of happiness comes only from within the heart, and this happiness is our relationship with God. Jesus said that the Kingdom of God is within us, and the same truth is stated in Hindu scriptures (the Vedas) as well. A surrendered soul can experience the loving embrace of God anywhere, any time - if he truly desires and strives for this loving relationship. The experience that God is my best friend, my only refuge, my source of happiness, and indeed, the very foundation for and purpose of my existence - is the only real meaning of religion. Currently, in many religions, the concept that God is a real Person is left out, glossed over, He is described as an amorphous mystery, or that "we are God", or that He is just energy or a force. But according to Jesus, the teachings in the Old Testament, and the teachings of the Vedas, re-establishing a loving relationship with the Supreme Person is the only thing that will fill the emptiness in our hearts. If this knowledge is denied, as in most of our culture, people will seek to fill this void by any means at hand. And if the moral absolutes that are part of God's instructions to humanity are tossed out, then anything goes. If sexual pleasure is the goal of life, and there are no eternal moral truths, then there is no reason to not accept same sex acts, or, for that matter, any kind of sexual activity.

Therefore, the real antidote to the "gay" agenda, as well as the breakdown of civilization it heralds, is the spiritual awakening of many individuals, and the understanding that such an awakening is not only important but essential.

TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: culturewar; culturewars; gayagenda; glsen; homonazi; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; prisoners; profamilyactivism; romans1
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To: sfRummygirl
What definition of Abomination do you know that that the rest of us doesn't that seems to mean love to you exactly?
121 posted on 02/18/2004 10:48:26 PM PST by AppauledAtAppeasementConservat (An educated fool, in the end, is still a fool.)
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To: AppauledAtAppeasementConservat
I don't understand what you just asked me.
122 posted on 02/18/2004 10:50:06 PM PST by sfRummygirl (
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To: sfRummygirl
Those are good points. If the Phelps character or others like him (are there others like him? Ick.) get involved, to promote themselves, that would be a bad idea. Let's think and see what we can come up with - maybe a lot of churches or other religious organizations would want to get involved. Or maybe others that aren't religious like Veterans' organizations, pro-life organizations, let me think. This is really what conservatives need - to get together not worrying about slight differences in the details, and put together a show of strength!
123 posted on 02/18/2004 10:50:50 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
YES! That is exactly what I am thinking.
I will talk to my church on Sunday for starters. Maybe we should e-mail groups?
124 posted on 02/18/2004 10:52:33 PM PST by sfRummygirl (
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To: little jeremiah
Well, I'm going to pack it in for the night soon. Good planning with you, and I will check in again tomorrow. God bless!
125 posted on 02/18/2004 10:56:16 PM PST by sfRummygirl (
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To: Old Professer
"...sure there are some legal benefits that would accrue by virtue of the recognition of their marriage..."

Prof, as a 56 year old guy who was married (two times) for a total of 27 years, I have a slightly iconoclastic view of marriage and "homosexual marriage."

I believe that for the most part the men instigated marriage into their relationships with women in order to get sex and to keep their women to themselves.

I believe that starting with my generation women instigated marriage into their relationships with men in order to accomplish their maternal instinct and acquire financial security provided to them by either their husband or the courts. Since this time men are much less eager to get married...after all the sex is available and there is no committment or as many consequences (legally speaking).

I think that the homosexuals are at least one or two generations behind heterosexuals with regard to marriage. I believe that if this "homosexual marriage" thing takes hold, those poor fools will be sooooo sorry.

Today neither party in a homosexual couple can push the other to marry ('cause it ain't legal). Under the new paradiagm one party or the other will start to push and of course the other will give in for the sex. Later there will be the much more lasting state of "homosexual divorce." The term "gay" may die there...nothing like a divorce and spousal support and community property settlements and perhaps even child support to take the gay right out of being "gay."

All I can say is the homosexuals ought to be careful what the ask for because they might get it.

126 posted on 02/18/2004 11:03:59 PM PST by Positive
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To: little jeremiah
Or teachers who are opposed to homosexual indoctrination of the students could refuse to allow it to be taught, but I'm sure that would jeopardize some peoples' jobs.

Definitely would. The way I see it is if you alert the people (read here parents/teachers) to the problem BEFORE it catches hold you have a chance. I think the administration losing out on say even 100 kids in just one day would hurt them. Call it the anti-homosexual agenda day.

127 posted on 02/18/2004 11:31:35 PM PST by alexandria
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To: little jeremiah
Pray yes! And that I will do, but there is a way that God works in my life that I understand. I get the notions and then wait on the doors to open and close and it happened more times than not just like this and then both my wife get the answer by a sign. It happened that way with my marriage, my moving to the beach, my job and now this seems to be the next event. I'll know soon enough why I am being pushed towards this conclusion.

There isn't enough room here to explain all of these kinds of events in my life but here's one example - when my wife and I were younger and we were loosing everything because I lost my job and couldn't find enough work to make the house payment for 3 months. Because I had quietly felt that this was God's will I was convinced that no matter how hard I tried I couldn't stop it and finally told my wife that this must be God's will and she didn't want to hear it. We didn't know where to go or what to do but then the next day when I went to drop her off at work and we talked and prayed about it and she noticed a verse on the white van's front tag that was parked DIRECTLY in front of us and it said 2 Cor. 5:17 on it: Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Now we new something was going on and speculated where were we to go? We prayed some more and she went into work and I was going to mine and in front of me was this dump truck and it had a sign on it that said "watch radio". I thought that was odd because how could you "watch radio" and it hit me to turn on the radio out of curiosity. The second I turned on that radio there was a seafood commerical on and it instantly gave me the answer we were to move to the beach. Two days later I had a huge paycheck and renter a uhaul truck called a real estate agent and to put a deposit on a house to rent and we were on our way. Everything changed for me since then. Good job and good friends and even more miracles after that like our buying our first house.

I can't explain it. But this notion about this country has been coming up in different ways since a couple of years ago and noone in my family even wants to hear it. And now I am convinced the confirmation is on it's way. It's serious enough that I and my wife are going to be discussing it tommorrow night in great detail and I know she is not wanting to her it either. She has to have proof by confirmation and events/signs and if she see's the same answer it will be confirmed for me.

Sorry for the long post. I am not even pentacostal either just an independant baptist and I wasn't taught to expect this kind of thing but that is what has happend to me since I was 19 years old and it started with knowing this girl I met at church was going to be my wife!
128 posted on 02/18/2004 11:33:21 PM PST by AppauledAtAppeasementConservat (An educated fool, in the end, is still a fool.)
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To: Positive
>>All I can say is the homosexuals ought to be careful what the ask for because they might get it.

Yep. Domestic Violence laws, for example, apply to "Domestic Partners".

Here in Kalifornia, if your partner gets a scratch, it is considered to be "corporal injury" and is a felony.

I don't think that's the kind of "Equality" the deviants were hoping for - LOL.
129 posted on 02/18/2004 11:39:14 PM PST by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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To: sfRummygirl
Sorry I was referring to your post that said "This could get out of control, and bring too many of the "God Hates Fags" people."

Since Gays are an Abomination to God doesn't that imply he is disgusted and revolted by them? He destroyed Soddom and Ghomorrah plus a couple similar towns with fire and brimstone so I can't imagine he loved them too much. Maybe you meant people who believe this and that also believe that they should promote violence as a solution involved.

That I can understand.

It's late so forgive me if I misinterpret what you were saying.
130 posted on 02/18/2004 11:44:04 PM PST by AppauledAtAppeasementConservat (An educated fool, in the end, is still a fool.)
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To: sfRummygirl
Good night to you too. Let me know what plans start to manifest. I'll email a couple of people/groups too.
131 posted on 02/18/2004 11:50:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: Positive
The real reasons homosexual activists have pushed for "gay" marriage are best said in their own words. What follows are a few quotes from well-known homosexual spokespeople, and the reasons are not because they are interested in the state of holy matrimony.

"Homosexual activist Michelangelo Signorile, who writes periodically for The New York Times, summarizes the agenda in OUT magazine (Dec/Jan 1994):

"A middle ground might be to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society's moral codes, but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution... The most subversive action lesbian and gay men can undertake --and one that would perhaps benefit all of society--is to transform the notion of family entirely."

"Its the final tool with which to dismantle all sodomy statues, get education about homosexuality and AIDS into the public schools and in short to usher in a sea change in how society views and treats us."

Chris Crain, the editor of the Washington Blade has stated that all homosexual activists should fight for the legalization of same-sex marriage as a way of gaining passage of federal anti-discrimination laws that will provide homosexuals with federal protection for their chosen lifestyle.

Crain writes: "...any leader of any gay rights organization who is not prepared to throw the bulk of their efforts right now into the fight for marriage is squandering resources and doesn't deserve the position." (Washington Blade, August, 2003).

Andrew Sullivan, a homosexual activist writing in his book, Virtually Normal, says that once same-sex marriage is legalized, heterosexuals will have to develop a greater "understanding of the need for extramarital outlets between two men than between a man and a woman." He notes: "The truth is, homosexuals are not entirely normal; and to flatten their varied and complicated lives into a single, moralistic model is to miss what is essential and exhilarating about their otherness." (Sullivan, Virtually Normal, pp. 202-203)

Paula Ettelbrick, a law professor and homosexual activist has said: "Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so. . Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family; and in the process, transforming the very fabric of society. . We must keep our eyes on the goals of providing true alternatives to marriage and of radically reordering society's view of reality." (partially quoted in "Beyond Gay Marriage," Stanley Kurtz, The Weekly Standard, August 4, 2003)

Evan Wolfson has stated: "Isn't having the law pretend that there is only one family model that works (let alone exists) a lie? . marriage is not just about procreation-indeed is not necessarily about procreation at all. "(quoted in "What Marriage Is For," by Maggie Gallagher, The Weekly Standard, August 11, 2003)

Mitchel Raphael, editor of the Canadian homosexual magazine Fab, says: "Ambiguity is a good word for the feeling among gays about marriage. I'd be for marriage if I thought gay people would challenge and change the institution and not buy into the traditional meaning of 'till death do us part' and monogamy forever. We should be Oscar Wildes and not like everyone else watching the play." (quoted in "Now Free To Marry, Canada's Gays Say, 'Do I?'" by Clifford Krauss, The New York Times, August 31, 2003)

1972 Gay Rights Platform Demands: "Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit."
[At that same conference and also in the list of demands was the elimination of all age of consent laws.]

132 posted on 02/18/2004 11:58:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
We all need to call our congressmen and ask that they start impeaching judges. I spoke to Az. Congressman J.D. Hayworth about it this evening, I asked him what it would take to get congress to start impeaching judges. He said some of them are looking at addressing judicial activism, but he didn't give me an answer on impeachment of judges, I told him now is the time to start. He did agree that it would be a good idea to call congressmen, and ask for impeachment of some judges.
133 posted on 02/19/2004 12:02:55 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: AppauledAtAppeasementConservat
This is my deeply held understanding: God loves every living being. Just as a loving father or mother loves every child, even the wayward ones. In fact, there are often cases of a loving parent keeping the photo of a daughter or son who "went bad" and left the family decades ago. A loving parent NEVER gives up on even the worst child. They always hope in their heart of hearts that the lost child will return, and become a good member of the family again.

Similarly, no matter how fallen any soul becomes, God's love is never broken. BUT - that doesn't mean that He is pleased with such a person. He can be extremely displeased. Just like a parent may have to punish a bad child - or even kick them out of the house if they become a thief or a drug addict. But there is love in the punishment. Remember the story of the Prodigal Son. We are all prodigal sons. But God wants us to come home, each and every one of us. That's where we belong.

What we need to do is accept that love, and learn to love Him back. And that means accepting that HE is God, and we are not, and following His rules is the beginning of the path.
134 posted on 02/19/2004 12:04:27 AM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: c-b 1
That's a very good suggestion. Every one of us who is serious about this impasse needs to get in touch with elected representatives. Do you think getting the ball rolling on impeaching judges should start with federal judges or state? What kind of judges should be the first to go?

Great idea. Congress should be deluged with personal letters and phone calls. And state reps similarly about out of control state judges.
135 posted on 02/19/2004 12:07:29 AM PST by little jeremiah (everyone is entitled to their opinion, but everyone isn't entitled to be right.)
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To: little jeremiah
I don't disagree with you just merely pointing out that it is understandable why some Christians feel that homosexuality is one sin that doesn't get many chances historically from a Biblical sense at least and his punishments for them have not been chastizing in a loving sense. They were utterly destroyed and cut off from his mercy in Soddom & G. Not to say that there is no hope for them but it is certainly one sin that mightily provokes his wrath and that alone should be good enough motivation to seek his forgiveness.
136 posted on 02/19/2004 12:45:44 AM PST by AppauledAtAppeasementConservat (An educated fool, in the end, is still a fool.)
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To: VxH
Oh ... I never realized. I got the impression (seeing what happened to the leftovers after "communion") that Lutherans had a different interpretation of "is" than Catholics.

My apologies.

A lot depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Ask the homosexuals who point to the FACT that heterosexual marriages don't last, heterosexual partners fully expect to enjoy non-procreative sex unless and until they are specifically Planning a child (at which point they can avail themselves of artificial reproduction, just like homos do), and heteros often end up with kids they don't want and don't care for ... unlike homosexuals who go to great lengths to procure and/or manufacture the children they want.

It's not so much that they want the public recognition of their union ... homosexuals have been getting "married" for years and -- like heterosexuals -- the bigger the hoo-hah over having and exeucting a wedding, the less likely it is to last.

They just want the "get out of legal fees free" card that is the marriage certificate where settling property and parenting issues and trumping the claims of Family members.

And who can blame them? That's about all marriage is these days in the hetero realm. A lifestyle choice and a remarkably unsuccessful one at that.

Why? Because -- like homos -- heteros have seated the union strictly between the two spouses instead of recognizing that marriage is the covenant on which Family is based.

It's Family that is the basic unit of society and the prime human condition. Having made children an option -- at best -- of conjugual union, heteros have no business pretending they've some exclusive claim to marriage given the Family Planning mindset.

137 posted on 02/19/2004 7:50:41 AM PST by Askel5
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To: little jeremiah
The American Child After Same-Sex Marriage
138 posted on 02/19/2004 7:59:23 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: little jeremiah
The American Child After Same-Sex Marriage
139 posted on 02/19/2004 7:59:34 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Askel5
>>Ask the homosexuals who point to the FACT that heterosexual marriages don't last,

Again, the poison of subjectivity.

I'm not interested in what homosexuals think.

The Word of God does not require their input.
140 posted on 02/19/2004 8:56:38 AM PST by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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