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What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda
self | February 11, 2004 | little jeremiah

Posted on 02/11/2004 9:00:13 PM PST by little jeremiah

What We Can Do To Defeat The "Gay" Agenda

Dear Fellow Freepers,

The following informal essay has two parts, the first consisting of ideas of what individuals or small groups can do to help thwart, roll back, defeat and otherwise throw a monkey wrench into the onslaught of the "gay" agenda and their stated goal to destroy the moral fabric of society. I am hoping that discussion will ensue, with theoretical ideas as well as accomplished plans. Information and knowledge are the key. Since most people just watch TV and read the establishment media, which are lapdogs of the "gay" elite, they just do not know the truth about homosexuality.

The second part is my analysis of the root cause of the homosexual movement, going a bit deeper than environment and molestation. It is "religious" or "spiritual" in aspect, so anyone who wishes to avoid that type of discussion can avoid it! This analysis is germane to the cure, not only of the homosexual agenda, but the untrammeled hedonism and libertinism of which homosexuality is the poster child.

[Note: I am not attempting to recap the immediate causes of homosexuality, or prove that it is not inborn, or give evidence as to why same sex acts are abnormal, unhealthy, or immoral, or to prove that homosexuals can change. FR already has hundreds of archived articles of this nature.]

Part One: Ideas on Promoting the Truth about Homosexuality

A friend of ours homeschools her children, so as to protect them from the horrible influence of public schools, instill her personal moral values, and give them the best education possible. She knew that homosexuality was unhealthy, immoral, and unnatural, but until I gave her books and booklets I purchased from Scott Lively's website (www.abidingtruth.com) she was not able to articulate her viewpoint. After studying the materials I provided, she became a one-woman task force, gave her elderly father books to read, and shared the books with the charter/homeschool teacher. The teacher, who also had not been very well-informed, had her mind blown (so to speak) and ordered more materials for herself, and placed a link to Lively's website on her personal website. Lively has a number of very informative booklets that can be purchased in bulk cheap, and they are great for distributing. So because I informed one friend, many others have been informed. This particular charter school is all for homeschooled children, and there are about 500 families involved.

By purchasing Lively's materials (or reprints from other groups such as NAARTH and the Family Research Council) and making them available at your church, synagogue or other house of worship, many people can become informed. Materials can be purchased and mailed or given to pastors at other churches, or any organization or club that you belong to.

I have found that if I talk to people in the line at the grocery store, or the cashier, often people are happy to find that others have the same viewpoint, but they are afraid to admit that they think same sex acts to be unhealthy or wrong. Just by speaking up in public, we can encourage others to think for themselves, and not be intimidated by social pressure.

Of course, letters can be written to newspapers (they've never printed one of mine!), legislators, and media people. We could try calling up local talk radio shows to tell the truth or attend school board meetings to protest the homosexual infiltration of the schools. Of course, by doing any of these things we will be "outing" ourselves as homophobes ;-) but that's the risk one takes by speaking the truth.

And then there are guerilla tactics: print up some fact sheets about the nature of and diseases spread by homosexual acts, statistics about molestation rates, etc - make them colorful and readable, and broadcast them about town. Laudromats, bulletin boards in stores, public facilities, rest stops, community college or other educational institutions, any place you can find. Good places would be where there is a lot of foot traffic, especially where high school kids can see them. High schools kids are really being targeted by homosexual activists, so the more they can see the truth, the better.

Another post-it tactic: make or obtain stickers with the names and phone numbers of organizations that help people overcome homosexuality, and stick them near high schools, colleges, downtowns, and so on. You never know whose life might change because of one phone call. Or, place ads in the classified ads section of local newspapers or weekly magazines with the same information.

Other promotional ideas are bumper stickers (make you own, or maybe someone knows where to order pro-family stickers). Ideas for slogans: Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve; Marriage=One Man+One Woman; Children Need a Mother and Father, Not Two of a Kind; Same Sex Acts Are Not Healthy For Living Things; Want to get AIDS? Be Gay!; Don't confuse "Exit" with "Entry"; Don't Mess With Marriage; "Gay" Sex Isn't Gay…. These could also be signs in car windows, yard signs, signs held at rallies.

Protest at "Gay Pride" Parades. If protesting at such public events, wear protective clothing and go in groups, carry antiseptic handwipes and have a camera and maybe tape recorder. No telling what might ensue. Here's an idea that someone freepmailed to me, and it sounds good:

"I have an idea I'd like to pass your way. I suggest that we get permits to set up tables in front of (or near) our respective churches/synagogues along the local "Pride" parade routes this coming June, with literature about reparative therapy. Each table should also have someone there to document all the juvenile insults and threats thrown our way on a videocam, and send copies of the films to the local tv news to include as part of their coverage."

These are just a few ideas. Let's hear yours!

Part Two: The Root Cause of Homosexuality

Everyone needs happiness, love and pleasure. These needs stem directly from the soul, and get interpreted through the body - think of how many people eat because they are lonely, depressed, or in anxiety. A healthy balanced person will eat when hungry, and when in need of companionship will turn to a relative, friend, or even pet for company. The need for love is really paramount, a deeper need than the bodily requirements. What hurts more, a broken heart, or a hungry stomach? Our culture has denied the fact - basic to all religions (probably a few exceptions, but this is not the debate here) - that human beings even have souls, what to speak of the needs of the soul. In fact, the accepted "scientifically based" theory is that humans are just machines, made of chemicals, evolved by accident, and the "self" doesn’t even really exist. In an atmosphere of such impersonal nihilism, it is natural that many people will be easily convinced that real love, real happiness, real heart to heart connection, don't exist.

What can take its place? Instant pleasure. Shopping. Drug and alcohol abuse. Or, most seductive of all, orgasms. And since the sexual organs have no conscience, a wide variety of options is available to people who have been convinced that God doesn't exist, there are no rules - or higher purpose - to life, and instant gratification is the only yardstick to measure happiness with.

There are two kinds of happiness - the kind that comes from the outside - eating, sex, comforts, and the devices or arrangements that facilitate such, as well as more intangible pleasures such as accomplishments, goals achieved, music, arts, learning, and so on. The second kind of happiness comes only from within the heart, and this happiness is our relationship with God. Jesus said that the Kingdom of God is within us, and the same truth is stated in Hindu scriptures (the Vedas) as well. A surrendered soul can experience the loving embrace of God anywhere, any time - if he truly desires and strives for this loving relationship. The experience that God is my best friend, my only refuge, my source of happiness, and indeed, the very foundation for and purpose of my existence - is the only real meaning of religion. Currently, in many religions, the concept that God is a real Person is left out, glossed over, He is described as an amorphous mystery, or that "we are God", or that He is just energy or a force. But according to Jesus, the teachings in the Old Testament, and the teachings of the Vedas, re-establishing a loving relationship with the Supreme Person is the only thing that will fill the emptiness in our hearts. If this knowledge is denied, as in most of our culture, people will seek to fill this void by any means at hand. And if the moral absolutes that are part of God's instructions to humanity are tossed out, then anything goes. If sexual pleasure is the goal of life, and there are no eternal moral truths, then there is no reason to not accept same sex acts, or, for that matter, any kind of sexual activity.

Therefore, the real antidote to the "gay" agenda, as well as the breakdown of civilization it heralds, is the spiritual awakening of many individuals, and the understanding that such an awakening is not only important but essential.


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To: Ohioan; GOPcapitalist; 4ConservativeJustices; nolu chan
Pinging for anyone with a copy of the Notes on the State of Virginia that you requested.
221 posted on 03/06/2004 2:03:38 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: lentulusgracchus; Alamo-Girl; tpaine; marron; unspun; restornu; xzins; lockeliberty
The alternative, which I support, is the consitutional remedy -- just take it away from the liberal judges. If they can't interpret the law without trying to legislate their own policy nostrums out of prejudice, then take the law away from them and leave them with an empty docket.

Sounds like really first-rate advice to me, lentulusgracchus!

It would have been nice to be spared the pain and expense of the amendment process; but increasingly the Left leaves the rest of us with little wiggle room to escape that seeming inevitability. If the people don't demand -- and get -- an acknowleddgement of their constitutional right to stipulate the answer to this question, then we can all just forget about living under a system of liberty and equal justice under law. It's that simple. IMHO. (FWIW)

222 posted on 03/06/2004 2:25:58 PM PST by betty boop (The purpose of marriage is to civilize men, protect women, and raise children. -- William Bennett)
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To: lentulusgracchus
This whole issue involves a study in totally delusional thinking. In any other era of human history, something of this sort would probably have come to an abrupt and terribly ugly end. There would have been a reaction, followed by total suppression, and probably some pretty gruesome treatment for those in the throes of the delusion.

I am not suggesting that that will not eventually be the end here. Please understand, I am not advocating that. I feel the historic pattern would eventually trigger another aberration--the pendulum effect--and who knows what. Again, I do not want to see Homosexual activists put in stoning pits, burned at the stake, or meet any of the other historic ends that totally insane attacks on human reason have previously provoked.

But that this is, indeed, a form of madness--and I leave it to theologians as to the possibility of demonic possession, towards which I am a skeptic (although less and less so, in the face of what is all around us)--I have not the slightest doubt. It is not rational--it is seriously irrational and very disturbed--to actually believe that you can alter reality by simply changing the meaning of words. And yet that is precisely what is being attempted.

It isn't really a legal argument what marriage does not mean in this context. It is true, of course, that different peoples have differently defined what marriage does mean; but there has never been any doubt what it does not mean. Different cultures are willing to sanctify different forms of human mating; but human mating is still a concept that parallels that of other forms of sexual life (as opposed to asexual life, where there is no division of the species into two sexes). Marriage is the form we take to treat human procreational activity as something special; something we hope will be Blessed by God; something most religions believe was originally ordained by God.

It has always been the rule, at least in Western Societies, that if the marriage cannot actually be consummated--that is consummated by a sexual act, which is an act between a participant from each of the two parts of the species, for procreational functions--it is subject to annulment as something that never really was. I know that in kindness, in respect for privacy and sensitivity, we do not require proof of consummation; we permit those to marry, even where there might be doubts as to the ability to consummate because of age or infirmity. But those doubts do not equate to mocking the very concept of procreational mating, by allowing people to marry inanimate objects, or other species, where procreation is impossible; nor members of their own sex.

These distinctions are so fundamental to the concept of marriage that no one thought it necessary to address them before. But the present challenge, is nowise more rational than it would be to suggest that a 30 year old horse be eligible to stand for the United States Senate--a' la, the mad Emperor Caligula. Indeed, the horse candidate for the Senate idea, is actually more rational than the idea of Homosexual marriage. It is bizarre and stupid; while the idea of homosexual marriage, is not only bizarre and stupid, but a 180 degree denial of the very nature of the institution.

I have lately been making a little joke, that if men can marry men, and women marry women, the "happy" couples can reproduce by picking up rocks and registering them as births. Those children would be no more delusional than the "marital" state of the "parents."

I could go on with this. I have only touched the surface of how depraved this concept is. But I am arguing to the choir.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

223 posted on 03/06/2004 2:58:03 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Old Professer
I think they want to marry because, deep in their hearts, they KNOW it is wrong. If society validates it, then at least 'they say' it is ok. They will still know in their hearts it is wrong, but they will have the covering of the State to make them legitimate. Tho it won't.
224 posted on 03/06/2004 3:23:50 PM PST by bboop
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To: John O
"They dissociate the sexual act from the procreative act."

I guess that infertile couples are not allowed to have sex because there's no chance of children. Fortunately there is no biblical command that the sexual act must be procreative every time.

I agree that the "procreative" argument by itself is rather weak, but I wouldn't compare a lack of pro-creativeness in an infertile couple to homosexual behavior either.

In any case we don't need a Biblical command on this particular aspect of homosexuality since the Bible clearly condemns homosexual behavior outright every place it mentioned in the Bible.

225 posted on 03/06/2004 4:57:33 PM PST by Jorge
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To: little jeremiah
The first thing we need to do is TAKE BACK THE LANGUAGE!! STOP using the term 'gay' for the homosexual lifestyle! Let's start using 'gay' the way it is supposed to be used, to mean; happy, delighted, etc. For example, my hubby and I have been happily married for almost 29 years. That means WE have a 'gay marriage'. No matter what homosexuals call what they do, it will never be a marriage in the full sense of that word, so call it a 'union', 'arrangement', whatever you like, but DON'T call it marriage! Words MEAN things; don't let the terms continue to be hijacked!!
226 posted on 03/06/2004 4:59:41 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: little jeremiah
bump
227 posted on 03/06/2004 8:11:46 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: betty boop
If the people don't demand -- and get -- an acknowleddgement of their constitutional right to stipulate the answer to this question, then we can all just forget about living under a system of liberty and equal justice under law. It's that simple. IMHO.

I agree! Thanks for the ping!

228 posted on 03/06/2004 8:24:12 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: bboop
If society validates it, then at least 'they say' it is ok. They will still know in their hearts it is wrong, but they will have the covering of the State to make them legitimate.

Exactly. Gays posting to Salon have said as much, usually emphatically.

There is a further consequence of their having achieved this, though, and that is that they will proceed to attempt to pressure "nonreconciling", i.e. doctrinally persistent churches (mostly the Baptists and the Roman Catholics, both of whom the homosexual activists have in their eye) to abjure their Levitical teachings, or suffer at the hands of friendly judges the way Paul Cameron did when he went up against uber-gay psychiatrist and former president of the APA Judd Marmor in a shopped court before a recent Carter appointee in 1981. That and a stunt gay activists ran on Cameron a few years earlier cost Cameron his membership in the American Psychological Association. The gays are very vindictive, and they would use Lawrence and the further decision that they want on marriage to go after the churchmen in court. They couldn't get criminal charges instated anywhere, but they could take them to civil court and strip them of resources, the way Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) did with a Klan organization. They want to drive faithful believers underground, to turn the tables 180 degrees on Levitical teaching and all its adherents.

Faithful religious people will, of course, welcome such persecution as a further sign of the approaching Eschaton.

229 posted on 03/06/2004 9:34:13 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: Ohioan
Again, I do not want to see Homosexual activists put in stoning pits, burned at the stake, or meet any of the other historic ends that totally insane attacks on human reason have previously provoked.

No, I don't either, but I don't think there's any question that, mutatis mutandis, that they wouldn't do that to us. Their vindictiveness is extreme, and it is on the record. They may have justified to themselves and others the werewolfing that they gave Laura Schlessinger, Paul Cameron, and (I suspect, behind-the-scenes) Judith Reisman, upon some peg of situational necessity or just deserts (just in their own twisted lights), but sooner or later they will try to make their "Homoerotic Order" screed stick -- I suspect that when they go after the kids for real, is when it'll hit the fan, and they'll have to put the Baptists and Catholics away for good, or lose their culture war.

But that this is, indeed, a form of madness--and I leave it to theologians as to the possibility of demonic possession, towards which I am a skeptic (although less and less so, in the face of what is all around us)--I have not the slightest doubt.

John Paul II issued a rather interesting encyclical, whose arguments I read in digest, that modernism, and in particular its dry, sardonic, detached intellectual form, is an emanation of hell itself. He even mentioned a coupld of its epicenters, one of which IIRC was Lyon, France. He seemed to be describing the modern continental worldview.

It is not rational--it is seriously irrational and very disturbed--to actually believe that you can alter reality by simply changing the meaning of words. And yet that is precisely what is being attempted.

Kirk and Madsen, in their magazine articles that eventually became After the Ball, stated forthrightly that they proposed to follow the propagandistic methodology of Josef Goebbels. Considering that the Nazi SA's and Hitler himself were homosexual, it is worthwhile to reflect on what that augurs, about the type of treatment people who don't "go along to get along" are going to receive from these people, and what their idea of settling scores and governing outcomes looks like.

230 posted on 03/06/2004 9:52:24 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Unfortunately I'm on remote dialup and my copy is, well, in Virginia right now. It's online though: http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/jevifram.htm
231 posted on 03/06/2004 10:05:45 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: little jeremiah
Good post. It's sad to confuse sex with friendship.
232 posted on 03/06/2004 10:35:38 PM PST by BrucefromMtVernon
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To: little jeremiah
Focus the arguements on the detrimental effects on our children.

"Stop the homosexual assault on our children" states the real battleground, and puts the homos on the defensive, where perverts belong.

Inform people that if "gay marriage" is accepted by law, then by law gay activists will be in our public grade schools telling children that homosexuality is just a fine choice.

"Little Bobby, when you grow up, are you going to marry a man or a lady?" is going to be the NEA talking point, day after day, brainwashing our children. "Sally, (Steve) if you've never kissed another girl (boy), how do you know you don't like it?" will be rammed down our kids throats day after day. Any teachers who refuse to allow "Gay Pride" guest lecturers into the classroom will be fired as "haters" and "homophobes."

That's the real fight: to protect our kids from the homo chickenhawks who want to poison their minds as school kids.

233 posted on 03/06/2004 11:11:46 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: SuziQ
You are so right about taking back the language! No more "gay," homosexual only. And no more "gay marriage," this almost makes this step a fait accompli if we use this term.

Instead, always refer to this abomination as "so-called homosexual marriage," or "sham marriage" or "homosexual mockery of marriage."

234 posted on 03/06/2004 11:14:52 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: GOPcapitalist; Ohioan
GOPcap, thanks for the link.

Pinging to your requested link.

235 posted on 03/07/2004 12:54:40 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: little jeremiah
Homosexuality has always been forbidden in civilized societies, barring some Greeks here and there.

Hmmmm... Not quite. The Greeks were at the pinnacle of their civilization, and incorporation of homosexuality was a big part of that. The way I see it, the queer coup is the milestone that says, "this society has hit its prime, and now it's on the way down." When a society becomes rich and fat enough, self-destructive behavior sets in...

I guess that's what depresses me about the whole fruit salad inundation. It almost seems inevitable. What's a conservative to do? Somehow I don't think that bumper stickers about entries and exits is going to strike any major chords...

I've been thinking about our societal decline lately, and it seems to me that if there is any way out, it lies in democracy. I don't give much credence to polls but if their trends are to be believed, more folks than not in this country don't approve of the gay lifestyle or agenda. Where are their voices being heard? Where is the moral vote?

236 posted on 03/07/2004 9:12:49 AM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: little jeremiah
IN SEATTLE

A march is planned to try to pressure King County Executive Ron Sims to allow same-sex couples to obtain marriage licenses in the county. Sims said he is required to uphold state law, which says marriage is between a man and a woman. The march is being organized by Brian Peters, who says he and his partner want to get married, but don't want to travel to do it, according to a notice on thestranger.com. The march is scheduled to begin Monday, March 8, at 9:30 a.m. at the Espresso Vivace cafe, 321 Broadway E., and head to the administration building at Fourth Avenue and James Street.


237 posted on 03/07/2004 3:24:16 PM PST by ppaul
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To: Ol' Sparky
Unless we are willing to get up in the faces of these people who wish to remake this country in their image and do unspeakable things to our children and let them know we will not tolerate it, things will not change for the better.

We also need to lean on our politicians and judges up for re-election since this is a major election year and if they are not willing to work with us to stop this assault on our society and children then they had better update their resumes.

Finally, we must push and push hard to make appointed judges accountable for their actions by making it easier to get them thrown off the bench if and when they decide to usurp the powers of Congress and legislate from the bench.

Of course, I know in my heart people really don't care as much as they say they do (present company excepted) and nothing will change and in five years time not only will we have same sex marriage regardless of what the people want our children will become little more than sex toys for the sick pervert queers.

Don't be praying for President Bush. Be praying for the soul of this country.

238 posted on 03/07/2004 4:57:40 PM PST by Houmatt (The FMA: For your children's future.)
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To: little jeremiah
First and foremost, the actual numbers need to be disseminated. Most reputable studies estimate the gay population at 2 to 5%. Most gays claim the number to be 10 to 15%.

The 10 to 15% numbers would place them above Blacks and Hispanics as the most numerous minority and therefore worthy of equal treatment as afforded those ethnic minorities.

Number two: The point needs to be made that homosexuals need to recruit to perpetuate. If left to biological selection, they cannot procreate and by the principles of Darwinism, they should disappear.

They recruit primarily through media portrayal of gays as humorous, quirky fun-loving people that have infinitely more wisdom than their straight counterparts. The entertainment community has taken the gay issue and placed it in mainstream programming as "normal". Our children are being recruited for this lifestyle by virtue of their TV viewing habits.

TVs have an on-off switch and a tumer. Parents need to control what their kids watch.

239 posted on 03/07/2004 6:57:51 PM PST by pfflier
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To: pfflier
Actually, I have never seen a study which put the number of exclusive homosexuals at 5%. But since people move in and out of same sex behavior, numbers can change anyway.

I have never seen even the most rabid "gay" activists claim 15%, although I don't know what they're saying lately. And even many of them have admitted that they knew they were lying about the 10%, but felt justified in their lies to further their goals. Just like Goebbels.

One problem with TV and movies is that teenagers who may not be under the direct supervision of parents all the time are very easily influenced, and many public (as well as private) schools are recruitment grounds for homosexuals through clubs, assemblies, homosexual teachers, cirricula designed to promote homosexuality, and so on.

It looks as though more people of legitimate racial and ethnic minorities (at least minority in the US) are realizing that being born Black, or Asian, has nothing in common with someone who chooses to practice same sex sodomy. Many Black people and those belonging to other minorities are disgusted and insulted to be compared to homoesxuals, and to have the "gay rights" movement try to ride on their coattails.
240 posted on 03/07/2004 11:00:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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