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..Rally against NGUYEN CAO KY's support of Communist Vietnam...
Radio Free Vietnam ^ | 2/13/2004 | Vietnamese Nationalist Anti-Communist Movement

Posted on 02/13/2004 11:39:42 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE

Vietnamese Nationalist Anti-Communist Movement APPEAL

WHEREAS: The fact that filthy traitor NGUYEN CAO KY overtly surrendered to the Vietnamese communists, showed his betrayal and disrespect to the millions of Republic of Vietnam troops and civilians who sacrificed for Vietnam's freedom.

WHEREAS: The fact that filthy Viet traitor NGUYEN CAO KY executed Hanoi communist orders to mar the cause for freedom and democracy of Vietnamese inside and outside Vietnam is causing serious damage to our effort to remove communism from Vietnam.

TO SHOW respect for the hundreds of thousands of Republic of Vietnam's deceased troops,

TO SHOW respect for the 58,000 US and thousands of Allied Troops who also died for Vietnam's freedom,

TO SHOW our concern for the misery and humiliation which millions of Vietnamese countrymen have to take.

FOR THE CAUSE OF FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY, FOR THE HONOR OF OVERSEAS ANTI-COMMUNIST VIETNAMESE...

~THE VIETNAMESE NATIONALIST ANT-COMMUNIST MOVEMENT CORDIALLY INVITES ALL IN THE COMMUNITY TO JOIN US~

..in a peaceful and powerful rally to show our indignation against the filthy Viet traitor NGUYEN CAO KY.

Time: Sunday February 15, 2004 from 1 PM to 5 PM

Location: Brookhurst Street, between Garden Grove Blvd. and Stanford Ave., in the city of Garden Grove, California.

Attending the demonstration against the filthy traitor NGUYER CAO KY is a way to pay tribute to those who died for the cause of Freedom.

Attending the demonstration against the filthy Viet traitor NGUYEN CAO KY is a way to contribute to the preservation of the yellow flag with three red stripes, to the stability of the nationalist cause and to deal a blow to the plot of compromise with Vietnamese communists and their lackeys.

Signed:

Chairman of Vietnamese Nationalist Anti-communist Movement

Brigadier General Le Van Tu


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters
KEYWORDS: antifreedom; gossip; hysteria; ky; procommunist; rumor; traitor; vietnam
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NGUYEN CAO KY is a former President of a once Free South Vietnam in 1965 and a once leading proponent of Freedom for Vietnam during the War and after.

News reports now say that NGUYEN CAO KY may be moving back soon to Comunist Vietnam, before it is Free once more.

Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Vet-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965

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1 posted on 02/13/2004 11:39:49 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: VOA; Fred Mertz; risk; Joe 6-pack
NEVER FORGET


Many Garden Grove City and Orange County, California elected Officials and Candidates will be on hand at this Rally in honor of Freedom for Vietnam.


NEVER FORGET
2 posted on 02/13/2004 11:44:08 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.)
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To: RonDog; Ragtime Cowgirl; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Alamo-Girl; doug from upland; ...
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Photos of a then Free South Vietnam:


..'RONNIE GUYER PHOTO COLLECTION'..

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm

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3 posted on 02/13/2004 11:48:57 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"NGUYEN"

Pronounced "Win"
4 posted on 02/13/2004 11:50:18 AM PST by Rebelbase (The gravy train makes unscheduled stops.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Ky is not the only Viet Khieu (expat) to have returned to Vietnam, or to be commuting back and forth. Many others have also be reinvesting and/or creating business, particularly in the south, which even today, remains far more entrepreneurial than the north.

Frankly, I've been encouraged by this as I believe that younger, though still corrupt, northern leadership has seen the writing on the ecomic wall, and knows there is no going back at this point to, for example, the disasterous land reform programs of the 1980's which displaced millions, and in which thousands starved.

I believe that continued engagement with Vietnam will continue to yield dividends for its people, predominantly under thirty (think also, Iran), and that the government there is scarred to death of being Islamized.

Our staying the course in the current war as well, may ultimately go a long way toward, and continue as a function of continued economic liberalization and freedom there by which we may well have ultimately won the Vietnam war.

5 posted on 02/13/2004 12:07:23 PM PST by onedoug
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I thought he was Vice President. When was he President?
6 posted on 02/13/2004 12:10:58 PM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: onedoug
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..I agree with your surmizing that Communist Vietnam now sees the threat the new War on Terrorism posses to it and is responding by reaching out to the United States.

...President BUSH's promise to bring Freedom's Return there during a BUSH Presidency brings us to a new World.

...But the way to get there is NOT
thru a former Freedom-Fighter like NGUYEN CAO KY's declaring that Freedom for Vietnam doesn't matter anymore as he prepares to prematurely move into a still Communist Totalitarian State smack in the face of those Freedom Fighters he used to valiantly lead.

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7 posted on 02/13/2004 12:24:18 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.)
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To: RonDog
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'JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets'


http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320


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8 posted on 02/13/2004 12:40:19 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
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...In March 2003 the City of Garden Grove became the 2nd City in our Nation's History to adopt the Free Flag of Vietnam as the officially recognized Flag representing their Vietnamese-American Communities at their own funtions.

...This is now sweeping America, invalidating the Communist Flag of Communist Vietnam.



'GARDEN GROVE votes Free South Vietnam Flag -IN-, who's next?

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=826

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9 posted on 02/13/2004 1:12:12 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.)
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To: Jaxter
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NGUYEN CAO KY was Premier of Free South Vietnam in 1965 after a coup and then Vice-President under President THIEU in 1971.


~Exiled Vietnamese leader 'surrenders' to hometown~


by Mai Tran and Richard C. Paddock, Los Angeles Times


http://www.vietpage.com/archive_news/politics/2004/Jan/24/0084.html

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10 posted on 02/13/2004 1:35:07 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Anything going on in San Jose?
11 posted on 02/13/2004 1:36:43 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: belmont_mark
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Vietnamese Actor, International Movie Star and resident of Saigon DON DUONG...

...star of .."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..

...now resides a Free Man forever in San Jose, California after:



'Vietnam Brands War Film Actor
National Traitor'

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=196

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12 posted on 02/13/2004 2:02:01 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.)
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To: Mia T
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Radio Free Vietnam =

FREEDOM for Vietnam


http://www.rfvn.com

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13 posted on 02/13/2004 2:35:53 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
But who will watch his liquor store?
14 posted on 02/13/2004 2:54:36 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT (Sane, and have the papers to prove it!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Cincinatus' Wife; ExSoldier; NMFXSTC; tet68; Squantos; Grampa Dave
Ronnie, I just want to thank you and the other cold warriors for continuing to teach us in the younger generation the truth about Vietnam. My first lesson came from Rick Rescorla, whose heroism on 9/11 has probably touched many like me who didn't know many heroic stories from Vietnam, or of the many other patriots (American and Vietnamese) who fought there.
15 posted on 02/13/2004 4:43:52 PM PST by risk (Senator Kerry, do you dare to compare yourself to Sgt. Cavaini, Khe San MoO recipeint?)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Ingrate ..and after we gave him a liquor store to play with...
16 posted on 02/13/2004 4:58:21 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy
Or did we give Ky a Holliday Inn?
17 posted on 02/13/2004 4:58:54 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: onedoug
"I believe that continued engagement with Vietnam will continue to yield dividends for its people, predominantly under thirty (think also, Iran), and that the government there is scarred to death of being Islamized.

Our staying the course in the current war as well, may ultimately go a long way toward, and continue as a function of continued economic liberalization and freedom there by which we may well have ultimately won the Vietnam war."

I live in Viet Nam part of each year. You are right about the younger folks, they are in favor of making money, they do question the government, they do want more and more leeway in their lives. By and large, they work for Western companies and are receiving a wage of about 10X what other VN people earn. My former company (I'm retired) and others, I'm sure, offer some outstanding performers a loan to buy a house when they are still in their 20's - this was unheard of prior to the year 2002.

The streets of Saigon are absolutely jampacked with motorcylces plus a growing number of cars and, still, some cyclos and buffalo carts, etc.

AND, the beer is still pretty cheap 8>)


18 posted on 02/13/2004 6:40:36 PM PST by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: Chu Gary; onedoug; ALOHA RONNIE
A year or so ago, the Nightly Business Report (a sane island on PBS) ran a segment on
the economy of Vietnam. The segment may have as well been subtitled:
"The War Is Over AND The Communists DIDN'T Win"

Vietnam won't turn into a colony of California soon, but change is on the way.
My naive guess the pace and extent of improvement depends on how religiously the younger
pups of the Communist regime stick to the old guards ideals.

As for Ky, he's a sad figure. He couldn't hold his country, stumbled despite help in
finding his way in the new land. While I "feel his exhaustion", his family/friends should
have coached him on the PR of making a trip back and told him he had to say the right words
and act certain wsys so as to not even be perceived as breaking faith with the past struggle.

I just hope the economics situation continues in the same direction...it'll just keep
progressively tipping the scales towards a country with more capitalists and fewer Communists.
19 posted on 02/13/2004 7:43:22 PM PST by VOA
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks for the link!
20 posted on 02/13/2004 8:20:42 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Nguyen Cao Ky repeatedly sought to undermine President Thieu, who, it can be argued, under the circumstances he had to work in, was a better president than LBJ.
21 posted on 02/13/2004 9:46:14 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: AmericanVictory
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I will NEVER FORGET the tears in President THIEU's eyes when he finally saw that America was not ever going to come to South Vietnam's aid at the end as his country was disintegrating under incoming Communist Tanks and Artillery, bought and paid for by the Soviets.

The Democrats in Congress stopped the flow to the South of Ammo, Guns, Artillery, Shells, Helicopters, helicopter parts, aircraft and aircraft parts.

Hard to fight when you ain't got the tools to fight with..?

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22 posted on 02/13/2004 10:03:53 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
What do we think this means for the present and future?
23 posted on 02/14/2004 2:23:33 AM PST by onedoug
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To: VOA
He couldn't hold his country....

??

That's a joke.

Right?

24 posted on 02/14/2004 2:26:44 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Chu Gary
God, I envy you!

And I know that's a sin.

Any work for a yet sharp accountant/admin type?

25 posted on 02/14/2004 2:34:03 AM PST by onedoug
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
What happened to Thieu after the takeover/overrunning/loss of Saigon, or did he hop a chopper too. Guess I'll take a look at Yahoo/Google.
26 posted on 02/14/2004 4:11:18 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: wita
Nine days after Nguyen Van Thieu's (21 Apr 75)resignation, the Vietnam war ended with the fall of Saigon. Thieu escaped to begin a life in exile - first in London, then in Boston.

He died in Massachusetts in September 2001.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/21/newsid_2935000/2935347.stm


27 posted on 02/14/2004 6:01:37 AM PST by XHogPilot (9-11, Never forget)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Fighting Commies Bump!
28 posted on 02/14/2004 1:41:56 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (What am I rebelling against? Well, what do ya got?)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Not exactly sure what this post is trying to accomplish. Cao Ky has been back in VN for about a month so far. Ky's return has been widely covered both before and during his trip back. His every move and action there has been watched like a hawk; both by the communists and by those who would like to report back to the USA with their own brand of stories.

His move back there has been widely covered in both the Nguoi Viet Press and the Orange County Register newspapers. His few comments have been things along the line of..."...the future of Viet Nam is in the hands of the youth.".."...all must cooperate to rebuild Viet Nam to face the future..." These kinds of comments for press consumption.

He has made no secret of his actions there. His daughter is with him, she is a lawyer in Cali and a wife is also with him there. Not sure how long either of them will stay there in VN.

Most American are completely unfamiliar with how the rumor mill works in the Vietnamese community. Ky's departure creates a vaccancy in the higher levels of the American Vietnamese hierarchy. This must be filled. So now...the battle to fill this vaccuum has begun.

Its politics, plain and simple. Bala belu...Belu bala...the games go on. No need for false outrage...its beyond our domain....lol.

29 posted on 02/14/2004 6:44:30 PM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Brigadier General Le Van Tu

Who is this guy?
And what's his beef?
So big deal, Ky wants to go back to his homeland and check things out.
That makes him a "filthy traitor"?
Methinks there's more to the story here - like maybe politics in the California Vietnamese community, eh?


30 posted on 02/14/2004 11:28:21 PM PST by ppaul
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
KERRY IS TOAST! - Nichols Notes
(Hillary Gets Ready to Spread the Jam!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1078451/posts


One Plan,
Many Faces...

All Heads of the Same Beast.

31 posted on 02/15/2004 9:24:56 AM PST by Joy Angela (**Keep Hillary FAR Away **)
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To: Khurkris
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...While NGUYEN CAO KY is telling the world's Press that he is doing what he can for Vietnam while there...

...the Comunists are also calling him a liar to the BBC and the like.

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32 posted on 02/15/2004 11:15:26 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.11)
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To: Khurkris
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The Vietnamese-American Communities across America have been fighting for FREEDOM's Return to Vietnam for decades without NGUYEN CAO KY's help or leadership.

Vietnamese-Americans simly want for their homeland what they lovingly have in their new home ...FREEDOM ...which KY is willing to forgoe under Communism for his own sake regardless of the pain it causes others he led in War.

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33 posted on 02/15/2004 11:22:52 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.11)
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To: Jaxter
"I thought he was Vice President. When was he President?"

I believe you are right. Wasn't Theu (sp) the pres when the South fell? Ky was the sharply dressed dude with attitude.
34 posted on 02/15/2004 12:59:45 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Spent 5 hours at the Protest today. Lovely day...not too hot. Started to cool off around 4:30 p.m.

Enjoyed the military speakers. The politicians were doing what politicians have done thru-out history - Making Promises and saying what they think people want them to say.

Nguyen Cao Ky returned to USA on Feb 12th. I am certain there will be some response to todays Protest in Nguoi Viet and maybe even OC Register. I look forward to it.

The patriotism and loyalty displayed to day was very powerful.

35 posted on 02/15/2004 5:55:53 PM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: onedoug
Any work for a yet sharp accountant/admin type?
I'd suggest you try to hire on with a big international outfit and express your interest in the country of your choice. The more miserable the country is considered to be, the better your chances. You might consider Peat Marwick or Deloitte and Touche if you have any connections.

Otherwise, if you want to visit VN, you can do so for about $700 round trip airfare (last I heard) on Asiana air from Dallas or the Left coast. Then, I could point you toward a decent little hotel, clean and good a/c, for under $20 per night. After that, I could tell you where to go for just about anything you're looking for from young women to Chinese medicine to "exotic" foods.

Best,

Gary
36 posted on 02/15/2004 6:53:42 PM PST by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"...the Comunists are also calling him a liar to the BBC and the like."

Anyone who reads a newspaper in VN is consuming the propaganda of the Commie government - the news is strictly controlled by the weasels in Hanoi. I read the papers just to fill the time over a few cold ones in the afternoon.
37 posted on 02/15/2004 7:01:36 PM PST by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: Khurkris; Lexington Green; VOA; risk; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; ...
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...Feelings ran high and the pain ran deep today at Little Saigon's Rally vs NGUYEN CAO KY and JOHN KERRY ...held on behalf of FREEDOM for Vietnam.

...These Freedom Fighters and Appreciaters have been very much hurt by their former Wartime Leader KY who has now turned himself over to the Terrorist side he was once fighting.

...Vietnamese-Americans now understand precisely how we Vietnam Vets felt when JOHN KERRY came home from fighting Terrorists in Vietnam long ago to call American Soldiers ...Terrorists on our TV's.

...I enjoyed waving my yellow Free Flag of Vietnam while wearing my yellow 1st Cavalry Division Jacket ...yelling out "FREEDOM" to the multitudes today along the way.

...Nothin' like it for they do love their FREEDOM so..!!!

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38 posted on 02/15/2004 7:45:59 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.11)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Deep down in their hearts, all Marxists know that Communism is just a bunch of sophistic crap.
39 posted on 02/15/2004 8:01:35 PM PST by Imal (The interchangeability of money and power is the philosopher's stone of politics.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
...I enjoyed waving my yellow Free Flag of Vietnam while wearing my yellow 1st Cavalry Division Jacket ...yelling out "FREEDOM" to the multitudes today along the way.

...Nothin' like it for they do love their FREEDOM so..!!!

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Saying good night on a thankful note, thanks to you, Ronnie!
 
       

        

                       
                            
                  
 
 God Bless those who serve our country
   * * * Past, present and future!  * * *

40 posted on 02/15/2004 8:38:43 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("(We)..come to rout out tyranny from its nest. Confusion to the enemy." - B. Taylor, US Marine, 2/28)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thank you for sharing this!
41 posted on 02/15/2004 9:26:13 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Cheers for Liberty!
42 posted on 02/15/2004 10:23:11 PM PST by Joy Angela (**Keep Hillary FAR Away **)
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To: Khurkris; Chu Gary; Ragtime Cowgirl; Joy Angela; VOA; risk; sport; Carl/NewsMax; ...
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...In today's Media Coverage of Sunday's Anti-KY Rally in Garden Grove yesterday...

...the Orange Register states that NGUYEN CAO KY is still in Vietnam playing golf with Communist leaders:


'Vietnam visit by KY called betrayal'

http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=81181&section=LOCAL&subsection=LOCAL&year=2004&month=2&day=16

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43 posted on 02/16/2004 11:22:18 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com.11)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
OC Register article also had an incorrect quote:

"Westminster Councilman Kermit Marsh had this message for the communist regime: "Give us the right of free vote and we'll give you Nguyen Cao Ky."

Quote was something along the lines of...'Give us (a currently held political prisoner) and we will give you Nguyen Cao Ky.'

Email was sent pointing this mis-quote out.

44 posted on 02/16/2004 3:33:59 PM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

It does not surprise me when Nguyen Cao Ky tried to make a deal with the Communist.

The only legitimate leader for the Vietnamese people that is not corrupt is Prince Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh of Vietnam, that has been living in Exile in the United States since 1975 and he was awarded the Republican Senatorial Medal of Freedom.
ie.Vietnamese Constitutional Monarchist League: http://users.panola.com/vietnam/index.html


45 posted on 07/13/2004 12:11:18 PM PDT by jimmyvannguyen (Freedom is not Free)
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To: risk

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As always, thank you for your heartfelt support.

Here's 2 more interesting items for you:


About RICK RESCORLA, the Man Who Predicted 9/11...

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361


About VAN TRAN, the 1st Vietnamese-American to take office as a State Legislator in U.S. History...

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1536289/posts

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46 posted on 02/24/2006 12:05:12 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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