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Mark Steyn: America must learn from our laziest woman
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 02/24/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 02/23/2004 3:26:35 PM PST by Pokey78

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1 posted on 02/23/2004 3:26:35 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...

2 posted on 02/23/2004 3:27:14 PM PST by Pokey78 (Steyn: Leftists demonize Wolfowitz because his name begins with a big scary animal and ends Jewishly)
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To: Pokey78
BTTT
3 posted on 02/23/2004 3:29:52 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Pokey78
I am saying that the best bet at saving the next generation of Susan Moores is if the US declares European welfare systems a national security threat.

QUOTE OF THE DAY!!!

4 posted on 02/23/2004 3:34:01 PM PST by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Pokey78
Wow, There may be hope for Britain after all.
5 posted on 02/23/2004 3:34:39 PM PST by atomicpossum
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To: Pokey78
INTREP - SOCIOLOGY - WELFARE
6 posted on 02/23/2004 3:35:24 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Pokey78
Wow, I guess my initial assesment of the British as a bunch of tea-drinking inbreds was a little premature.

The UK is, of course, doomed if there are 5 or 10 of the welfare sponges for every 1 like the author.

7 posted on 02/23/2004 3:40:20 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: Pokey78
The purpose of a helping hand is to lift people up. Instead it has become a jackboot that holds people down. You are no longer helping people when you take away their will to succeed.
8 posted on 02/23/2004 3:40:26 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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To: Pokey78
Two excellent Steyn articles in one day! It's a good day indeed.

Prairie
9 posted on 02/23/2004 3:40:45 PM PST by prairiebreeze (The hope that danger has passed is comforting, is understandable, and it is FALSE! ~GWBush)
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To: Pokey78

Mother and Daughter


10 posted on 02/23/2004 3:40:48 PM PST by Timesink (Smacky is power.)
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To: Pokey78
Happily, not all recipients waste their time on the dole: Muhammed Metin Kaplan set up his Islamist group, Caliphate State, while on welfare in Cologne; Ahmed Ressam, arrested in Washington State en route to blow up Los Angeles International Airport, hatched his plot while on welfare in Montreal; Zacarias Moussaoui, the "20th hijacker" currently on trial in America, became an Islamist radical while on welfare in London; Abu Hamza became Britain's most famous fire-breathing imam while on welfare in London; Abu Qatada, a leading al-Qaeda recruiter, became an Islamist bigshot while British taxpayers were giving him 10 times as much per week as Susan Moore. It was only when he was discovered to have £150,000 in his bank account that the Department for Work and Pensions turned off the spigot. If only the Susan Moore-ish super-spongers were as purposeful as the neo-Moorish super-spongers.
11 posted on 02/23/2004 3:43:45 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Timesink
Is that really them?
12 posted on 02/23/2004 3:45:06 PM PST by Feiny (Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.)
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To: feinswinesuksass
Yes, that's really them.
13 posted on 02/23/2004 3:45:41 PM PST by Timesink (Smacky is power.)
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To: Timesink
Oh yuck, is this a joke?
14 posted on 02/23/2004 3:49:40 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Until Kofi Annan rides the Jerusalem RTD....nothing will change.)
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To: Pokey78
Teachers are uncomfortable with the notion of an "opposing side" one must strive to "beat" - just as, in the war on terror, many grown-ups are uncomfortable with the notion of "the enemy"

Close, but no cigar. Many of the same people who won't admit that Islamist terrorists are America's mortal enemies, have no problem at all claiming George Bush is America's enemy.

Weird, but true.

15 posted on 02/23/2004 3:50:54 PM PST by irv
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To: Timesink
Then there's no doubt 40 quid a week keeps the pantry stocked.
16 posted on 02/23/2004 3:51:26 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Not Fonda Kerry")
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To: Timesink
i wonder if they get enough to eat?
17 posted on 02/23/2004 3:52:22 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite
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To: Pokey78
It's always amazed me how many career welfare prople are 'fat'.
18 posted on 02/23/2004 3:55:14 PM PST by jolie560
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To: Timesink
Ever notice that welfare types are never close to starving?
19 posted on 02/23/2004 3:58:44 PM PST by mylife
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To: Pokey78
If only the Susan Moore-ish super-spongers were as purposeful as the neo-Moorish super-spongers.

I had to reread that line to get it.

20 posted on 02/23/2004 4:06:59 PM PST by NovemberCharlie
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To: jolie560
I can't remember the source, but I seem to remember reading a study that showed as your socio-economic status decreased, your likelyhood of being significantly overweight increased.

As for these two women, I think it's more weird how much the daughter looks like her mom; it's like looking at her much younger twin.

21 posted on 02/23/2004 4:08:21 PM PST by Hawkeye's Girl
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To: Timesink; Pokey78
Oh my WORD! Gone are the days, apparently, when people actually felt a sense of SHAME for stealing from others, instead of wanting their picture in the paper. Steyn does the right thing, holding these women up to ridicule. Thanks for the ping, Pokey78!
22 posted on 02/23/2004 4:09:26 PM PST by alwaysconservative (If you want to dance with the one who brought you, you probably should quit insulting your date.)
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To: Timesink

Sponge Boob and Sponge Boobette?

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

23 posted on 02/23/2004 4:14:09 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Pokey78
to the progressive mind, there are no enemies, just friends whose grievances we haven't yet fully acknowledged.

Spot-on.
24 posted on 02/23/2004 4:16:05 PM PST by July 4th (George W. Bush, Avenger of the Bones)
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To: Pokey78
there are no enemies, just friends whose grievances we haven't yet fully acknowledged.

Bingo! What a perfect description of the antiwar protesters' mind set.

25 posted on 02/23/2004 4:23:03 PM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: Pokey78
BTTT
26 posted on 02/23/2004 4:28:03 PM PST by Gritty ("to Progressives there are no enemies, just friends with unacknowledged grievances -Mark Steyn)
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To: Timesink
Great googlymoogly.
27 posted on 02/23/2004 4:41:44 PM PST by martin_fierro
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To: jolie560
It's always amazed me how many career welfare people are 'fat'.

And it's always amazed me that when the hand-wringing starts about the "epidemic" of obesity 8 out of 10 times they show lower middle class white males (truck driver, assistant manager at TireMart, the key-grinder at ACE hardware), when 8 out of 10 times the real examples can be found in public assistance minority females.

Ah yes, America! The only place on earth where the poor are fat.

28 posted on 02/23/2004 4:45:15 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Hawkeye's Girl
I can't remember the source, but I seem to remember reading a study that showed as your socio-economic status decreased, your likelyhood of being significantly overweight increased.

I remember reading something like that too. It said that the higher you go (or wish to appear to be) in socio-economic status (a.k.a. social ladder) the slimmer your figure.

Yet oddly enough, at the very top while women are quite slim (skinny?) men tend to be just a little bit heavier then when they were at the next-to-the-very-top rung of the social ladder.

29 posted on 02/23/2004 4:51:29 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Pokey78
Amen.
30 posted on 02/23/2004 5:04:00 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings
Ping
31 posted on 02/23/2004 5:08:51 PM PST by knighthawk (Live today, there is no time to lose, because when tomorrow comes it's all just yesterday's blues)
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To: Pokey78
The welfare state, like public schooling, is essential to increasing the power of the State over mere humans.

So far, it's working wonderfully well!
32 posted on 02/23/2004 5:21:35 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Pokey78
Teachers are uncomfortable with the notion of an "opposing side" one must strive to "beat" - just as, in the war on terror, many grown-ups are uncomfortable with the notion of "the enemy": to the progressive mind, there are no enemies, just friends whose grievances we haven't yet fully acknowledged.

Although I'm a Steyn man, in this case, he's wrong. (And he's echoing Lee Harris, and should be man enough to admit it.) Socialists today are uncomfortable opposing the enemies of the West, because THEY are enemies of the West. Thus, they see the 911 attackers not as their enemies, because they consider them to be allies.

33 posted on 02/23/2004 5:28:54 PM PST by mrustow
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To: Timesink
Now that is scary! How can anyone be proud of never having held a job? What's up with the lame excuses? What a positively frightening mindset! (BTW, if I looked like that, I would break all the mirrors in my house and never ever pose for a photograph! Yikes!)
34 posted on 02/23/2004 5:37:04 PM PST by Joan912 (Ice hockey is an addiction...)
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To: Pokey78
BTTT
35 posted on 02/23/2004 5:38:18 PM PST by hattend
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To: Pokey78
He makes a great point that is overlooked about the welfare state: it allows bright, intelligent and decent people to make absolutely nothing of themselves and in a sense making nothing of yourself is like dying.

Excellent point.
36 posted on 02/23/2004 5:39:32 PM PST by Schattie (-censored-)
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To: mhking
the Sun bestowed the title of "Britain's Laziest Woman" on Susan Moore of Burythorpe, North Yorkshire. Moore has not done a day's work since dropping out of college in 1988. Despite receiving "Jobseeker's Allowance" for 16 years, she does not seek jobs, and never has.

I'm not sure if this is 'just damm' worthy, but I though I would let you know about it.

37 posted on 02/23/2004 6:01:31 PM PST by RKB-AFG
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To: Timesink
The mother looks like she's been taking tips on coy, retiring glances. From Helen Thomas.
38 posted on 02/23/2004 6:06:45 PM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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RE: Mother and Daughter pic

Well, it doesn't appear that either is missing any meals...

39 posted on 02/23/2004 6:08:24 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: LonePalm
Those two fat slobs could get gainful employment as...

1. Star Jones' dietician

2. Professional Wrestlers

3. plugs to patch holes in the side of oil tankers.

40 posted on 02/23/2004 6:27:32 PM PST by Benrand
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To: yankeedame
It's always amazed me how many career welfare people are 'fat'.

I am thinking it's the carbohydrates. Pasta and Bread are cheap. Also lack of strenuous exercise, ya know.

I'm on Atkins and spend a fortune at the grocery store on high-falutin food.

These ladies kinda remind me of "Onslow" in Keeping up Appearances

41 posted on 02/23/2004 6:34:28 PM PST by agrarianlady
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To: Pokey78
Wow...Another brilliant Steyn! Thanks Pokey for a pleasurable unexcerpted read!
42 posted on 02/23/2004 6:40:07 PM PST by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Xenalyte
The mother looks like she's been taking tips on coy, retiring glances. From Helen Thomas.

She does resemble a younger Helen, the ugliness is there and ready to bloom, but at least Helen has a job.

43 posted on 02/23/2004 6:53:28 PM PST by X-FID ( ". . . . I'm making steps. . . . I look at an issue. I'm not afraid to run away from it,")
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To: Pokey78
"If only the Susan Moore-ish super-spongers were as purposeful as the neo-Moorish super-spongers."

When I read that line I let out an audible "Whhhowww" not unlike what I would say at the finale of a fireworks show.

His skills as a writer are pyrotechnic.

Brew
44 posted on 02/23/2004 7:37:04 PM PST by brewer1516
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To: brewer1516
I had the same thought. I mean he articulated the conservative position better than I've ever seen anyone else do, 'cept perhaps RR. :)
45 posted on 02/23/2004 7:41:45 PM PST by Schattie (-censored-)
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To: agrarianlady
These ladies kinda remind me of "Onslow" in Keeping up Appearances...

Daisy?

I remember waking one morning to 1030 AM (WBZ Boston), to some incoherent low-caste British accented mumbo-jumbo. I turns to me missus and says I, "What's Onslow doin' on the wireless, Rose?" Turns out George Harrison had died overnight and they lead the 6:00 AM news with some sophomoric jibberish of his'n. I swear you never tell if it was George or Onslow, less'n they told you.

But, rest assured, Daisy and her spawn are certain that they are the moral and cultural superiors of George Bush in particular and Americans in general.

46 posted on 02/23/2004 7:57:02 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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To: Pokey78
Liberal "good intentions" are the illusion. Look at the fruit. When the fruit is "destroyed lives", the tree is evil.
47 posted on 02/23/2004 9:51:40 PM PST by GOPJ (NFL Fatcats: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Pig latin? Cute.

Uday and Qusay are ead-day

48 posted on 02/23/2004 9:52:58 PM PST by GOPJ (NFL Fatcats: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: Pokey78
Teachers are uncomfortable with the notion of an "opposing side" one must strive to "beat" - just as, in the war on terror, many grown-ups are uncomfortable with the notion of "the enemy": to the progressive mind, there are no enemies, just friends whose grievances we haven't yet fully acknowledged.

Bump!

49 posted on 02/24/2004 12:34:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: yankeedame; Hawkeye's Girl
Here's bit of info from an American Journal of Public Health  study on obesity, profession, and gender in England.  Thought you'd be interested.

 


50 posted on 02/24/2004 5:29:18 AM PST by Damocles (sword of...)
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