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1 posted on 02/23/2004 3:26:35 PM PST by Pokey78
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2 posted on 02/23/2004 3:27:14 PM PST by Pokey78 (Steyn: Leftists demonize Wolfowitz because his name begins with a big scary animal and ends Jewishly)
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I am saying that the best bet at saving the next generation of Susan Moores is if the US declares European welfare systems a national security threat.

QUOTE OF THE DAY!!!

4 posted on 02/23/2004 3:34:01 PM PST by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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Wow, There may be hope for Britain after all.
5 posted on 02/23/2004 3:34:39 PM PST by atomicpossum
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INTREP - SOCIOLOGY - WELFARE
6 posted on 02/23/2004 3:35:24 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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Wow, I guess my initial assesment of the British as a bunch of tea-drinking inbreds was a little premature.

The UK is, of course, doomed if there are 5 or 10 of the welfare sponges for every 1 like the author.

7 posted on 02/23/2004 3:40:20 PM PST by AreaMan
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The purpose of a helping hand is to lift people up. Instead it has become a jackboot that holds people down. You are no longer helping people when you take away their will to succeed.
8 posted on 02/23/2004 3:40:26 PM PST by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing!)
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Two excellent Steyn articles in one day! It's a good day indeed.

Prairie
9 posted on 02/23/2004 3:40:45 PM PST by prairiebreeze (The hope that danger has passed is comforting, is understandable, and it is FALSE! ~GWBush)
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Mother and Daughter


10 posted on 02/23/2004 3:40:48 PM PST by Timesink (Smacky is power.)
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Happily, not all recipients waste their time on the dole: Muhammed Metin Kaplan set up his Islamist group, Caliphate State, while on welfare in Cologne; Ahmed Ressam, arrested in Washington State en route to blow up Los Angeles International Airport, hatched his plot while on welfare in Montreal; Zacarias Moussaoui, the "20th hijacker" currently on trial in America, became an Islamist radical while on welfare in London; Abu Hamza became Britain's most famous fire-breathing imam while on welfare in London; Abu Qatada, a leading al-Qaeda recruiter, became an Islamist bigshot while British taxpayers were giving him 10 times as much per week as Susan Moore. It was only when he was discovered to have £150,000 in his bank account that the Department for Work and Pensions turned off the spigot. If only the Susan Moore-ish super-spongers were as purposeful as the neo-Moorish super-spongers.
11 posted on 02/23/2004 3:43:45 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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Teachers are uncomfortable with the notion of an "opposing side" one must strive to "beat" - just as, in the war on terror, many grown-ups are uncomfortable with the notion of "the enemy"

Close, but no cigar. Many of the same people who won't admit that Islamist terrorists are America's mortal enemies, have no problem at all claiming George Bush is America's enemy.

Weird, but true.

15 posted on 02/23/2004 3:50:54 PM PST by irv
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It's always amazed me how many career welfare prople are 'fat'.
18 posted on 02/23/2004 3:55:14 PM PST by jolie560
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If only the Susan Moore-ish super-spongers were as purposeful as the neo-Moorish super-spongers.

I had to reread that line to get it.

20 posted on 02/23/2004 4:06:59 PM PST by NovemberCharlie
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to the progressive mind, there are no enemies, just friends whose grievances we haven't yet fully acknowledged.

Spot-on.
24 posted on 02/23/2004 4:16:05 PM PST by July 4th (George W. Bush, Avenger of the Bones)
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there are no enemies, just friends whose grievances we haven't yet fully acknowledged.

Bingo! What a perfect description of the antiwar protesters' mind set.

25 posted on 02/23/2004 4:23:03 PM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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BTTT
26 posted on 02/23/2004 4:28:03 PM PST by Gritty ("to Progressives there are no enemies, just friends with unacknowledged grievances -Mark Steyn)
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Amen.
30 posted on 02/23/2004 5:04:00 PM PST by Dog Gone
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The welfare state, like public schooling, is essential to increasing the power of the State over mere humans.

So far, it's working wonderfully well!
32 posted on 02/23/2004 5:21:35 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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Teachers are uncomfortable with the notion of an "opposing side" one must strive to "beat" - just as, in the war on terror, many grown-ups are uncomfortable with the notion of "the enemy": to the progressive mind, there are no enemies, just friends whose grievances we haven't yet fully acknowledged.

Although I'm a Steyn man, in this case, he's wrong. (And he's echoing Lee Harris, and should be man enough to admit it.) Socialists today are uncomfortable opposing the enemies of the West, because THEY are enemies of the West. Thus, they see the 911 attackers not as their enemies, because they consider them to be allies.

33 posted on 02/23/2004 5:28:54 PM PST by mrustow
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BTTT
35 posted on 02/23/2004 5:38:18 PM PST by hattend
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He makes a great point that is overlooked about the welfare state: it allows bright, intelligent and decent people to make absolutely nothing of themselves and in a sense making nothing of yourself is like dying.

Excellent point.
36 posted on 02/23/2004 5:39:32 PM PST by Schattie (-censored-)
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