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Troll Rebuttal - Why Iraq is a Humanitarian Achievement and why the Antiwar movement is RACIST
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Posted on 02/26/2004 11:47:59 AM PST by swarthyguy

News of the Absurd A 29-year old woman working for UK's GCHQ - the British equivalent of the US NSA was discharged in court after the British government said it would not offer evidence against her for leaking government secrets.

The Mandarin translator leaked news that US intelligence had asked the British to step up eavesdropping of embassies from countries that were key to a UN Iraq resolution. She said she had only followed her conscience: she wanted to expose attempts by the US to subvert GCHQ and also to save civilian Iraqi lives.

We thought if one worked for a top-secret government agency dealing with national security, one's conscience required one only to resign. We also thought the US and UK were allies, so rather than subverting GCHQ, the US was only asking for help.

As for saving Iraqi lives, we find this person's motives quite charming.

Presumably it was okay for Saddam to kill his people, but not okay for the US/UK to stop him from doing so - admittedly primarily in pursuit of their own interests, and admittedly at the cost of some Iraqi lives.

We find this attitude, quite common in the west, to be demeaning to non-whites.

It is racist, because it assumes that while its fine to intervene to save whites [Balkans 1990s, Spanish Civil War, Poland 1939, France 1914] its not okay to save black or brown or yellow lives.

This attitude becomes doubly insulting when its dressed up in the guise of concern for human rights, and the obvious implication that the Iraqis don't deserve the same human rights as the British do.

If it was okay for Britain to twice fight Germany at a horrendous cost in civilian lives - even if it was in the British geostrategic interest to do so - then why is it now not okay to fight Saddam?

Should people in intelligence agencies have leaked British plans to counter Hitler because that meant war and the loss of civilian lives.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraqifreedom; swarthyguy

1 posted on 02/26/2004 11:47:59 AM PST by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
I dont know about anyone else but I'm getting freepmail spammed on this subject from someone i assume is a troll.
2 posted on 02/26/2004 11:50:37 AM PST by cripplecreek (you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
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To: Cronos; Dog Gone; AM2000; keri; Shermy; Dog; knighthawk
Ping.
3 posted on 02/27/2004 10:11:52 AM PST by swarthyguy (You have to remember that if you grow thorns, you will not harvest roses - Ayman Al-Zawahiri)
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To: swarthyguy; JohnHuang2; JohnBerger; Sean Osborne Lomax; JustPiper; freeperfromnj; flutters; Dog; ...
News of the Absurd A 29-year old woman working for UK's GCHQ - the British equivalent of the US NSA was discharged in court after the British government said it would not offer evidence against her for leaking government secrets.

The Mandarin translator leaked news that US intelligence had asked the British to step up eavesdropping of embassies from countries that were key to a UN Iraq resolution. She said she had only followed her conscience: she wanted to expose attempts by the US to subvert GCHQ and also to save civilian Iraqi lives.

Ping

4 posted on 02/27/2004 11:20:43 AM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: swarthyguy
This guy must have it all wrong, because we know that liberals can't be racist.

And Bush, as a conservative, could not have possibly have gone to the aid of some arabs.

5 posted on 02/27/2004 11:21:45 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
If this is the same trolls as before its because they think this site is anti-pali, anti-gay and pretty much anti everything. The liberal left is the ones who are the anti's it just hasn't soaked into their little peabrains yet.
6 posted on 02/27/2004 11:24:43 AM PST by boxerblues (Included on a lefty hate list! I'll wear it like a badge of honor.)
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To: boxerblues
I'm missing out on today's batch of freepmail trollspam, which is rather surprising. However, I can delete at least as fast as they can spam, so I'm not especially incensed when I'm included in their pointless and futile effort to disrupt.
7 posted on 02/27/2004 11:28:10 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone; boxerblues; cripplecreek
Question to you (or to anyone else who's received this FReepspam): Do the little trolls ever bother responding, or is it pure, unadulterated SPAM?
8 posted on 02/27/2004 11:39:30 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: cripplecreek; swarthyguy
Me too. Mailed him/her/whatever a few times. It's a leftists dreaming of converting us. Same old stupid leftsist propaganda, Israel is racist, Palestinians are massacred. Told him/her/whatever that the Pakistani army massacred well over a million Hindus in Bangladesh, but yet the left never sees that as a massacre are racism.
9 posted on 02/27/2004 11:43:03 AM PST by knighthawk (Live today, there is no time to lose, because when tomorrow comes it's all just yesterday's blues)
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To: FourtySeven
It is hate spam.

The trolls are zotted before you can even reply, most of the time.

If they are not, the reply is used to hammer you again with another thread.

10 posted on 02/27/2004 11:43:26 AM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: knighthawk
As they ignore that the plight of the Kurds has turned in to the future promise of the Kurds, courtesy of Uncle Sam.

As they ignore Saddam's mass graves.

11 posted on 02/27/2004 11:48:28 AM PST by swarthyguy (You have to remember that if you grow thorns, you will not harvest roses - Ayman Al-Zawahiri)
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To: Dog Gone
Had to deal with that crap up here.

And hated the insinuation that I should be against US efforts because of the common epidermial configuration.

What yahoos. I've been using this same argument since right after 9.11 when the old racism charge fitst came up.

12 posted on 02/27/2004 11:51:03 AM PST by swarthyguy (You have to remember that if you grow thorns, you will not harvest roses - Ayman Al-Zawahiri)
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To: FourtySeven
I've never bothered to reply, but most times the troll has been zotted before I ever see it. And I certainly wouldn't bother to reply. Anyone who spams a group with a political message is not interested in anything other than spreading propaganda.

If I get a freepmail from an unfamiliar name on a thread I've never even seen, it's deleted without opening it. Takes about 3 seconds.

13 posted on 02/27/2004 12:18:58 PM PST by Dog Gone
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