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Kerry, Edwards to Face Off in California Debate
Reuters ^ | 2-26-04 | John Whitesides

Posted on 02/26/2004 5:18:31 PM PST by jwalburg

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Democratic presidential contenders converged on California on Thursday for the first of two debates that give John Edwards his best shot at slowing front-runner John Kerry's momentum before next week's 10-state Super Tuesday showdown.

Kerry, Edwards and the two other remaining candidates, Dennis Kucinich and Al Sharpton, will participate in the 90-minute debate at the University of Southern California on Thursday night.

Along with a Sunday debate in New York, the two forums offer Edwards his most public platform to try to change the dynamics of the Democratic race and stop Kerry's march to the nomination to face President Bush in November.

Bush, who launched his re-election drive earlier this week with attacks on Kerry, continued the theme during a trip to Kentucky and North Carolina. He derided his political rivals as out of touch with working Americans for refusing to support making his tax cuts permanent.

Kerry, who earned the endorsement of the New York Times, has dominated the Democratic race with 18 victories in the first 20 contests, and another blowout on Tuesday could put the nomination in reach and Edwards' candidacy in doubt.

The 10 states include big prizes like California, New York and Ohio and have 1,151 delegates at stake, more than half of the 2,162 needed to win. Kerry would not have enough delegates to win the nomination with another dominating performance, but Edwards would have little incentive to push on.

Edwards, who used a strong debate performances in Iowa and Wisconsin to mount late charges in those earlier races, began the day by earning the endorsements of the California and New York chapters of the ACORN community group, which represents more than 150,000 low and moderate-income families.

"I want to change this country so never again in America does anyone ever utter the phrase 'working poor,"' he said at a rally in San Francisco.

Kerry arrived in Los Angeles on Thursday afternoon and planned to stop at a grocery store to meet striking workers. More than 70,000 California grocery employees have been on strike for the past five months over a plan by three supermarket chains to cut their health benefits.

The Massachusetts senator drew more than 2,500 people at a campaign rally in Macalester College's field house in St. Paul, Minnesota, on Wednesday night. Fire marshals said they turned away hundreds more.

During a speech interrupted dozens of times by a mix of union members and college students waving blue-and-white Kerry signs, the senator blamed Bush for sending American jobs abroad, leaving millions without health care, running an inept foreign policy and alienating traditional U.S. allies.

Bush, on a visit to Kentucky, said his challengers were out of touch with working Americans for opposing the extension of his 2001 and 2003 tax cuts at a cost of around $1 trillion over the next decade.

"That's code word for 'I'm going to raise your taxes,"' Bush told workers at a Louisville pipe-making company.

"We don't need to be raising taxes right now as the economy is beginning to recover. We've got plenty of money in Washington D.C.," he said, ignoring this year's projected half-trillion-dollar budget deficit.

Bush also planned a visit to Edwards' home turf of North Carolina on Thursday night for a fund raiser in Charlotte.

"I wish President Bush would spend more time talking to families and listening to their fears, like I do," the North Carolina senator said. "Then he might realize that the people of North Carolina need more from their president than economic photo-ops and $2,000-a-plate fund raisers."

In its editorial endorsing Kerry, The New York Times said he "exudes maturity and depth" and that "what his critics see as an inability to take strong, clear positions seems to us to reflect his appreciation that life is not simple."

But the Times also criticized Kerry for showing little interest in being daring and said: "We wish we could see a little of the political courage of the Vietnam hero who came back to lead the fight against the war."

The Times said Edwards was a strong campaigner but too inexperienced. "When he departs from his stump speech and discusses domestic issues or -- particularly -- foreign affairs, his lack of experience shows," it said. (Additional reporting by Patricia Wilson, Deborah Charles, Adam Entous)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; california; debate; democratdebate; edwards; election; kerry
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To: Mo1
Another good question from the LA Times woman reporter to Edwards and Kerry about their Iraq resolution.

Can't wait to hear Kerry say for the umpteenth time he voted so Bush would take all the time in the world.

81 posted on 02/26/2004 6:39:54 PM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: StriperSniper
Edwards is getting slammed for his Iraq vote
82 posted on 02/26/2004 6:40:16 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Re: Edwards doesn't take money from lobbyists...

Edwards, John eFings and company consider anyone supporting Guns, God or Republican are lobbyists. Anyone supporting abortion-on-demand, unions, a total-gun-ban, anti-Americanism or DemocRATS are not lobbyists.

Simple, ain't it?

83 posted on 02/26/2004 6:40:24 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: cyncooper
LOL .. Edwards is now being asked if he was suckered into voting for the Iraq bill
84 posted on 02/26/2004 6:40:59 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: Mo1
Here's an informative website. I found some language as what constitutes a "Treaty in Force" and it does list ways treaties are changed or terminated or superceded. But I didn't read enough to see if it says by whom and how they are terminated.

http://www.state.gov/www/global/legal_affairs/tifindex.html
85 posted on 02/26/2004 6:41:11 PM PST by Fledermaus (This Tagline For Rent!)
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To: Mo1
Edwards IS getting slammed....darn...save some blows for Kerry!
86 posted on 02/26/2004 6:41:28 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Mo1
Yeah, he's flubbing it big time! :)
87 posted on 02/26/2004 6:42:16 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: Fledermaus
Thanks ... I bookmarked for later reading
88 posted on 02/26/2004 6:42:22 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: StriperSniper
What was Kerry's point about Clinton going to war without the Congress?
89 posted on 02/26/2004 6:42:48 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Mo1
Larry King asks three times of Edwards: Do you regret your vote and Edwards only reply was I did what I thought was right at the time, all three times.

Kerry: No, I do not regret my vote. I regret we have a president who broke every promise.

He makes me sick.

I hope the reporters nail this slime down. He voted for the resolution and he just said he does not regret it.
There he goes with referring again to how he personally served in a war.
90 posted on 02/26/2004 6:43:05 PM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: All
Gad! Can anyone get John eFing to shut the eF up?

Yes, CNN commercial breaks!

91 posted on 02/26/2004 6:44:28 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: cyncooper
Why doesn't anyone ask Kerry to define the "promises this president broke"?
92 posted on 02/26/2004 6:44:32 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia
This way the hardcore leftwing base will not blame him for 'giving the president the power to go to war', IOW "Do't blame me".
93 posted on 02/26/2004 6:44:45 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: All
Kerry got away with blathering. Did not get pinned down like Edwards.

Break



94 posted on 02/26/2004 6:44:50 PM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: cyncooper
Hard to nail slime
95 posted on 02/26/2004 6:44:59 PM PST by jwalburg (We CAN Question their Patriotism!)
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To: cyncooper
I hope the reporters nail this slime down.

That's way I'm HOPING there is transcript of this debate

It's a good one

96 posted on 02/26/2004 6:45:12 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: Right_in_Virginia
I don't know what his point was in bringing up Clinton, who didn't go to Congress, as a comparison to Bush, who did. It seems to me that he proved the point, Congress okayed the action in Iraq.
97 posted on 02/26/2004 6:46:03 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Re: What was Kerry's point about Clinton going to war without the Congress?

Ya know, The First Felon did Monica without the Congress, too!

98 posted on 02/26/2004 6:46:11 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: StriperSniper
But, Kerry did vote for a resolution giving the President the right to use force.

Kerry's tortured semantics won't hold up in a debate with the President.
99 posted on 02/26/2004 6:46:14 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Why doesn't anyone ask Kerry to define the "promises this president broke"?

I think Kerry has sewn up this nomination. Edwards does look the amateur tonight.

Fine.

Bring it on!

lol

100 posted on 02/26/2004 6:46:18 PM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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