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To: MosesKnows
Before you jump to conclusions - see this web page - It's Rick Mathes organization!

http://www.charityadvantage.com/missiongateministry/HomePage.asp
24 posted on 02/27/2004 2:06:46 PM PST by TheBattman (Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com)
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To: TheBattman
Before you jump to conclusions

It was my point to arrive at a conclusion when I responded to the post. Perhaps you are suggesting my conclusion is flawed. Perhaps it is. Let’s review.

A person named Core_Conservative on FreeRepublic posted an article titled Allah or Jesus with an unknown author. After reading the article, I concluded that it was a made up story to advance an agenda I disagree with. I responded.

Posted by MosesKnows to Core_Conservative
On News/Activism ^ 02/27/2004 4:18:04 AM PST #5 of 24 ^

This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in prison ministry.

I don't believe you, but unfortunately there are those who will.

This may not be the most elegant way to tell an unknown author I don’t believe his story is true but I am not in doubt that Rick Mathes is well known in prisons

I reread the portion that caused me to doubt the validity of the story.

"Please, correct me if I'm wrong, (if not corrected then what follows must be accepted as correct) but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven.

The question then asked cannot be answered without agreeing that his understanding is correct even if his understanding is incorrect.

The question asked. “If that’s the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?" At this point, any answer given agrees with the author’s understanding. The next sentence reveals that if the Imam did not disagree with the statements the statements must be true.

“There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" That is the point of this type of discourse. It is not asking, it is teaching. Now, it is also true I could be confused. What does the next exchange bring?

I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?" “There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!"

You might have missed the transition from the word infidel meaning non-believers to infidel meaning everyone who is not of your faith. You may have missed the transition from most to all. You may have missed the error in the meaning of jihad. It is my opinion that the false and misleading statements are intended is persuade ignorant people to fear of Islam.

There is more than one lesson to be learned from teachings such as these. My conclusion remains unchanged, the story is false and only told to spread misinformation about Islam.

25 posted on 02/28/2004 7:14:49 AM PST by MosesKnows
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