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Out of wedlock Sex has a price...and it is one of the things destroying our youth and our nation.
Sex has a price tag ^ | February 29, 2004 | Jeff Head

Posted on 02/29/2004 7:08:07 PM PST by Jeff Head

Today during our church services we held a combined meeting of all of the adult men and women who were not involved teaching our primary aged (2-11) and youth aged (12-18) children. I wanted to report to FR about the meeting and the content and its impact. The meeting had been planned for some time to view the video"


"Sex has a price tag"

A lot of thought and prayer went into presenting this video and its content. We wanted the adult thoughts on this before we hold a meeting for all of the youth in our congregation.

The video is very direct and very plain and straight talking about the sexual revolution and its physical, emotional and spiritual impact on the youth in America...and on adults who practice sex out of wedlock. It is extremely well done and is delivered very professionally and very aptly in the video to a catholic high school assembly meeting by a Pam Stenzel. She uses appropriate humor, straight talk, statistics, clear logic and scriptural reference to reveal the truth about the rampant spread of over 30 STD's in our society today, many of which I had never heard of before, and their impact. She speaks very eloquently about the terrible emotional and mental impact of the consequences of these diseases both to those who contract them...and to any future partners or spouses they may have.

The presentation would not be allowed in public schools because of its religious message...but the overall message is one that every American adult, parent and child from the sixt grade up should hear.

Our congregation is of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but we very willing listened for an hour to a presentation by this good, moral and very talented Catholic woman as she presented the truth ahout the virtue of sex within marriage, and the abject dangers and rampant disease and risk associated with it outside of marriage.

I urge every Freeper to get a copy of this video or cassette and view it yourself...then show it to your entire family...then do all in your power to hold church and community meetings to show it to everyone you can.

The speaker talks of the media's willing efforts to hide and obscure the facts and only present their politcally correct and motivated message that is doooming hundreds of thousands of people, even millions (mainly youth) to misery and eventual death by not presenting all of the facts.

I am completely unaffiliated with the people producing the video, but know it is available in cassette and DVD format as well. I inted to buy one for each of my grown daughters (two married and one single) and send it to them urging them to watch it ASAP and teach the information to their own children (in the case of the married daughters) as soon as they are of age.

I intend to buy many cassettes and vidos and DVD's and to work here in Emmett, ID to have every church in our valley of every denomination look to having similar presentations...ultimately having them all come together for a community presentation to reach as many people and youth as possible.

Needless to say, I was very impressed by this timely and critical message, and despite whatever doctrinal differences my church and denominations have between themselves...this truth is universal and something most all of us can agree on and present for the benefit of all.


TOPICS: Announcements; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: faith; godslaw; morality; sex; sexualdisease; sexualrevolution; society; stds
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I hope everyone will consider this message and get it presented to their own kids and to as many youth in this nation as possible. FR has the unique capability to jump start something like this as individuals take a good message and run with it. It is my sincere hope that we will.
1 posted on 02/29/2004 7:08:09 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: joanie-f; Dukie; Squantos; JohnHuang2; k.trujillo; Travis McGee; Critter; Lurker; harpseal; ...
FYI...please consider.
2 posted on 02/29/2004 7:08:39 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Thanks Jeff...a big ole BTTT for this MUCH NEEDED subject.
3 posted on 02/29/2004 7:10:34 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Pray for America and Israel)
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To: Jeff Head
One of America's greatest tragedies is how we have bought into the Big Lie about sex. How many more broken hearts, shattered lives, diseased bodies, unwanted children, abortions, et al until we start to actually *consider* counting the cost of our promiscuity?
4 posted on 02/29/2004 7:14:13 PM PST by kezekiel
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To: kezekiel
This presentation counts that cost better than any other I have ever seen. We can make a difference by getting the truth out to as many youth, parents and other adults as possible.

Please, please, get a copy of this and watch or listen to it.

You will be motivated to spread it around.

5 posted on 02/29/2004 7:18:04 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Brad's Gramma
You are very welcome.

Please, please get a copy of this and watch or listen to it.

I have no doubts that you will desire to get it widely published, viewed, listened to in your community...through your church, other churches, community meetings...however.

6 posted on 02/29/2004 7:19:29 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Sex before marriage...Let me tell you about the girl who killed my kid.

It was a matter of convenience, you know. Oh, I am sorry, in libspeak, "Health of the mother."

I miss that child, today.

Regrets can haunt you forever.

7 posted on 02/29/2004 7:20:13 PM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: Jeff Head
Big Ohio Bump for anyone trying to point our youth toward the Lord and His ways. God bless you!
8 posted on 02/29/2004 7:20:40 PM PST by Faith
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To: Jeff Head
The wages of sin are death.

But after they take out taxes all you get is a tired feeling.
9 posted on 02/29/2004 7:22:50 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: patton
I grieve for you and that decision. This woman addresses that very topic so well! Please get a copy and veiw or listen to it.

I know you will be inspired to get this message out. it is simply the best, most consice, most direct and most impactful presentation on the topic I have ever seen.

10 posted on 02/29/2004 7:24:46 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Bump
11 posted on 02/29/2004 7:25:05 PM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Faith
You are welcome. Please consider getting a copy of this woman's video or cassette.

Please watch it and then spread the word through your own congregation.

12 posted on 02/29/2004 7:25:39 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Dinsdale
The presntation points out how that is literally true physically in so many cases and then goes on to point out how it leads to spiritual death as well.

Simplay a GREAT presentation that everyone should get a hold of, watch and then spread in their own sphere of influence.

13 posted on 02/29/2004 7:27:18 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: SAMWolf
Thanks for the BUMP my friend...BUMP back.

Hope you are enjoying the novels.

14 posted on 02/29/2004 7:27:50 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
As an attorney with a primary area of family law, I've seen the truth to this. From a purely secular point of view, pre-marital sex has so many financial consequences for our society. What we, as a society, need to do is to keep our pants zipped up until we get married, then only unzip it for the person we're married to.

And aside from the costs of having a child, which dooms the mother and the child to a life of financial struggle, we also have the sexually transmitted diseases. I believe the CDC has stated that 25% of all adults have a permanent STD - be it AIDS, warts, Herpes, etc. Think of the medical costs for treating these things. And that doesn't take into account the STDs that are treated - syphillis, gonorrhea, etc.

Then we also have the emotional consequences of having sex in a non-committed relationship, then breaking up. Hugely damaging, and baggage that is carried to the next relationship and to one's parenting.

Why it is "conservative" or "puritan" to say this is base stupidity.

15 posted on 02/29/2004 7:28:45 PM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: Jeff Head
God's way is the ONLY way, BUMPS!
16 posted on 02/29/2004 7:29:21 PM PST by TruthConquers ("Who will liberate us from these tyrants of secularist tolerance?")
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To: Jeff Head
And these are the people who preach irresponsibility in this regard:

http://www.dsausa.org/

and here's the Enemy Within that continuously strives to shove this irresponsibility down our throats:

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/wndarchive/19519.html


They lead to the demoCommiecRAT Freak Show!!!!
17 posted on 02/29/2004 7:32:16 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Jeff Head
May you NEVER TIRE OF DOING GOOD Sorta' bump.
18 posted on 02/29/2004 7:33:44 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Opposite of Right -______________________-is Just Wrong)
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To: Jeff Head
I'm about to start "Breath of Fire". One more chapter to go in "Hell in the Hurtgen Forest". DOn't get as much reading time as I'd like any more.
19 posted on 02/29/2004 7:33:54 PM PST by SAMWolf (I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff, if you think I agreed to kill my child, you are talking to the wrong guy.
20 posted on 02/29/2004 7:34:57 PM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: GreatOne
This woman points out how the unwanted pregnancy is the least of the worries.

The STD's are the whirlwind. The viral ones are incurable and are with you for life...some fo them do not require techical "sex" to transmit...any genital contact is all it takes...and some of them make that life terrible and much shorter. She points our how one is a major contributor to cervical cancer which is the second leading cancer killer of woman and a lot of it it is based on a viral STD.

She points out how the major media is willingly and knowingly ignoring much of this.

It is an absolutely GREAT presentation and I encourage everyone to get a copy...watch it...and then let your heart move them to action and spread it around their own communities. The good that could be accomplished by this alone are almost incalcuable in prevented misery and death of we will but act.

I intend to in my communty.

21 posted on 02/29/2004 7:36:15 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Mo1; CindyDawg
May be you find this of interest!
22 posted on 02/29/2004 7:36:32 PM PST by restornu ( "Faith...is daring the soul to go beyond what the eyes refuse to see."J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: patton
No, no my friend...I am talking about the decision that was made without your consent...perhaps without your knowledge. The law is written (unfortunately) to leave the unwed father completely out of that decision.

I apologize for any miscommunication of that.

23 posted on 02/29/2004 7:38:18 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Great post, Jeff.

Pam's very brave, and the young people are startled to hear her "original" message that they are actually valuable in the eyes of God, and can say no, and expect to be treated as they treat others...with respect.

If ever there was a need for some major class-action lawsuits against those who helped destroy so many young lives....and their unborn.

Pam's in demand. A hopeful sign.

24 posted on 02/29/2004 7:38:32 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("(We)..come to rout out tyranny from its nest. Confusion to the enemy." - B. Taylor, US Marine)
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To: TruthConquers
Sin leads to death...rightousness leads to life. This is becoming more and more apparent in the physical realm as well...not just spiritually.

In fact, it has always been thus.

25 posted on 02/29/2004 7:39:45 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Defender2
Those preaching sexual promiscuity...or promoting or winking at it...unfortunately stretch to both sides of the aisle these days.

But the vast majority of it comes from the left and the democratic party platform and their abettors and enablers.

26 posted on 02/29/2004 7:41:52 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: S.O.S121.500
Thank you...may we all never tire of it!

Those that are with us are mightier and more powerful than they that be against us.

27 posted on 02/29/2004 7:43:26 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
If I could have stopped that ... But I could not. I failed - they killed my child.

God, forgive me. I failed.

28 posted on 02/29/2004 7:44:39 PM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Her presentation and her own personal testimony of the sanctity of life as applied in her own case was among the most powerful messages you can hear in that regard.

I pray that her message is trumpeted and magnified ten thousand fold...nay, a million fold all over this nation.

We intend to do our part in a little town in SW Idaho...and in the spirit of what happened in Klamath in 2001, I know FR can stretch that reach all over this nation.

I pray it shall. If you know Pam, let her know that a fire has been lit to add to the many tens of thousands she has already lit.

29 posted on 02/29/2004 7:46:34 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: patton
That child, IMHO, has been received to our Father's paradise...and you will be reunited with your own in due course my friend, forever where moth and rust do not corrupt.

In the mean time, it is left to us in this sphere to spread the word and help others know the truth so they may choose aright.

30 posted on 02/29/2004 7:48:31 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: All; JohnHuang2; Ragtime Cowgirl
I have to go off line now until tomorrow evening after work.

I will check back at that point and respond here.

Please spread the word to your bump lists!

31 posted on 02/29/2004 7:51:59 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
Tell the kids - it is a BABY!
32 posted on 02/29/2004 7:55:19 PM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: Jeff Head
It's worse to do evil things, and say they're not evil, thus encouraging the weak and wobbly to do them, than to do evil without publicly espousing that it's not evil. We know that both parties have partiers - but one is more open about it.
33 posted on 02/29/2004 7:56:45 PM PST by 185JHP ( "And the pure in heart shall see god.")
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To: Jeff Head
Thank you, Jeff for the informative post. And God bless this woman for having the courage and wherewithal to put the message together.

But I do have to make some note of one of your posts....... She points our how one is a major contributor to cervical cancer which is the second leading cancer killer of woman and a lot of it it is based on a viral STD.

She is refering to HPV and it needs to be remembered that HPV is the direct cause of more than 98% of all cervical cancers.

HPV (human papillioma (sp?) virus) is an STD that is generally only noticed in women because of it being the major cause of cervical cancer...........the word needs to be put out that men need to be checked for this virus as well.

Cervical cancer is NOT caused by smoking - it is caused by a virus that is tranferred through sexual relations and the so-called health industry needs to get over their obsession with cigarette smoking and do some good for a change (OK-there I've totally proved to those that have claimed it in the past I am a one-issue FReeper)

34 posted on 02/29/2004 8:04:46 PM PST by Gabz (The tobacco industry doesn't pay cigarette taxes - smokers do!)
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To: Gabz
We knew that.
35 posted on 02/29/2004 8:09:41 PM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: Jeff Head
Funny you should bring this topic up. I was just thinking about this video today. Our old ward showed it to the parents and the youth. It is excellent. As a school-based RN, I wish that I could show this to all of my middle school students. This woman hits the proverbial nail on the head. Thank you for the information. I am going to buy a copy for my family. I am going to take it to the leaders in my new ward and get them to review it to show the youth there. Take care and God bless. (BTW, so sorry about your Dad. I hope your heart is healing and your family is doing well. Please send my best wishes to your sweet mother.)
36 posted on 02/29/2004 8:10:54 PM PST by Enough_Deceit
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To: Enough_Deceit
bump
37 posted on 02/29/2004 8:15:09 PM PST by Some hope remaining.
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To: patton
You didn't fail....others failed.

I believe God never felt a need to forgive you...
38 posted on 02/29/2004 8:17:17 PM PST by Gabz (The tobacco industry doesn't pay cigarette taxes - smokers do!)
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To: Gabz
You are right. God has no need to forgive me.
39 posted on 02/29/2004 8:20:20 PM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: patton
But..but...but..."The 70's Show" says that teenage sex is only sport and carries no consequences other than a nice afterglow(?)

Who to believe? Hmmmmmmm.........

40 posted on 02/29/2004 8:33:24 PM PST by The Duke
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To: patton
You can be a wiseacre when you choose to be, can't you?????

41 posted on 02/29/2004 8:33:29 PM PST by Gabz (The tobacco industry doesn't pay cigarette taxes - smokers do!)
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To: patton
I've got one child - a 16 year old daughter - who I believe GETS IT . I've spent tons of time with her preaching the virtues of celibacy , and the ecstacy of experiencing sex for the first time with the person who has committed his life to you via marriage , your husband . Just last night she was talking to my wife and mother-in-law about how someday she wanted to find a man just like to me to marry , and that my wife was lucky ! Naturally I beamed with joy .
42 posted on 02/29/2004 8:36:03 PM PST by sushiman
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To: Gabz
yes.
43 posted on 02/29/2004 8:36:43 PM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: The Duke
IT IS A BABY!!!

Sorry, I am a little sensative on this issue.

44 posted on 02/29/2004 8:39:34 PM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: patton
I feel sorry for all the children of unwed mothers who populate our schools today. Many of them are angry and maladjusted, and some of them take out their rage on kids like my nieces and nephews who are guilty simply of being from homes with an old-fashioned Mom and Dad who are married to each other.
45 posted on 02/29/2004 8:40:21 PM PST by MissouriForBush (Insert "Was" Because of Disastrous Illegal Immigration Non-Plan)
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To: sushiman
Well done.
46 posted on 02/29/2004 8:40:42 PM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: MissouriForBush
Children of unwed mothers beats the alternative.
47 posted on 02/29/2004 8:42:10 PM PST by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: patton
What a flip anwer.

So shall ye sow, so shall ye reap.
48 posted on 02/29/2004 8:44:35 PM PST by MissouriForBush (Insert "Was" Because of Disastrous Illegal Immigration Non-Plan)
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To: MissouriForBush
"answer"
49 posted on 02/29/2004 8:45:00 PM PST by MissouriForBush (Insert "Was" Because of Disastrous Illegal Immigration Non-Plan)
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To: Jeff Head; xzins
Thanks so much for the information. A video promoting chastity and the reserving of sexual activity for marriage is long overdue.

If we hadn't first been so permissive with pre-marital sex, cohabitation, and the like, we probably wouldn't have to be dealing on a large scale with homosexuality and all kinds of other sexual proclivities. When we opened the door, even slightly, to sexual expression outside of marriage, we might as well have opened the floodgates.

After reading countless threads on homosexuality, I was beginning to think that Freepers didn't care about other sexual sins. Fornication and adultery are also condemned in the Bible, and they take their toll on the individual as well as on society as a whole.

As I have mentioned before, the best way to rid society of homosexual behaviour is to return to the ban on all sexual activity outside of wedlock and allow marriage only between a man and a woman.

50 posted on 02/29/2004 8:46:13 PM PST by wai-ming
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