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San Francisco and Islamists: Fighting the same enemy
Townhall.com ^ | March 2, 2004 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 03/02/2004 3:22:48 PM PST by swilhelm73

America is engaged in two wars for the survival of its civilization. The war over same-sex marriage and the war against Islamic totalitarianism are actually two fronts in the same war -- a war for the preservation of the unique American creation known as Judeo-Christian civilization.

One enemy is religious extremism. The other is secular extremism.

One enemy is led from abroad. The other is directed from home.

The first war is against the Islamic attempt to crush whoever stands in the way of the spread of violent Islamic theocracies, such as al Qaeda, the Taliban, the Iranian mullahs and Hamas. The other war is against the secular nihilism that manifests itself in much of Western Europe, in parts of America such as San Francisco and in many of our universities.

America leads the battle against both religious and secular nihilism and is hated by both because it rejects both equally. American values preclude embracing either religious extremism or radical secularism. As Alexis de Tocqueville, probably the greatest observer of our society, wrote almost 200 years ago, America is a unique combination of secular government and religious (Judeo-Christian) society.

Not only has this combination been unique, it has been uniquely successful. America, therefore, poses as mortal a threat to radical secularism as it does to Islamic totalitarianism. Each understands that America's success means its demise.

This is a major reason why the Left so opposes anti-Islamism (just as it opposed anti-communism). In theory, the Left should be at least as opposed to the Islamists as is the Right. But the Left is preoccupied first with destroying America's distinctive values -- a Judeo-Christian society (as opposed to a secular one), capitalism (as opposed to socialism), liberty (as opposed to equality) and exceptionalism (as opposed to universalism, multiculturalism and multilateralism). So, if the Islamists are fellow anti-Americans, the Left figures it can worry about them later.

All this explains why the passions are so intense regarding same-sex marriage. Most of the activists in the movement to redefine marriage wish to overthrow the predominance of Judeo-Christian values in American life. Those who oppose same-sex marriage understand that redefining the central human institution marks the beginning of the end of Judeo-Christian civilization.

Let us understand this redefinition as clearly as possible:

With same-sex marriage, our society declares by law that mothers are unnecessary, since two men are equally ideal as mothers and as the creators of a family; and that fathers are unnecessary, since two women are equally ideal as parents and as the creators of a family.

With same-sex marriage, our society declares that there is nothing special or even necessarily desirable about a man and a woman bonding. What is sacred to the proponents of same-sex marriage is the number of people marrying (two, for the time being), not that a man and woman bond.

With same-sex marriage, when taught in school about sex, marriage and family, children will have to be taught that male-male and female-female sex, love and marriage are identical to male-female sex, love and marriage. And when asked, "Who do you think you will marry when you grow up?" thanks to the ubiquitous images of media, far more children will consider members of the same sex.

With same-sex marriage, no adoption agency will ever be able to prefer a married man and woman as prospective parents. Aside from the tragedy of denying untold numbers of children a mother and a father, this will lead to a drastic diminution in women placing children for adoption, since most of these women will prefer something that will then be illegal -- that agencies place her child with a man and woman, not with two men or two women.

With same-sex marriage, any media -- films, advertisements, greeting cards -- that only depict married couples as a woman and a man will be considered discriminatory and probably be sued.

With same-sex marriage, those religious groups that only marry men and women will be deemed beyond the pale, marginalized and ostracized.

There have been many Christian countries, and they are no longer. They have been replaced by secular countries, and they are weakening. Only American civilization remains strong, and it does so because of its unique amalgam of values rooted in Judeo-Christian morality.

This civilization is now fighting for its life -- as much here as abroad. Join the fight, or it will be gone as fast as you can say "Democrat."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: clashofcivilizations; dennisprager; enemywithin; fifthcolumn; homosexualagenda; islamofascism; judeochristian; radicalislam; secularhumanism; survival; theleft; whywefight; wot

1 posted on 03/02/2004 3:22:49 PM PST by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73
AMEN
2 posted on 03/02/2004 3:29:11 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: swilhelm73
Islamo-fascism + international socialism = Axis of Evil
3 posted on 03/02/2004 3:29:31 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: swilhelm73
One enemy is religious extremism. The other is secular extremism.
Dudes. Hear me out. We were out-classed and out-gunned from the start; but now we have been out-flanked. To fight on two fronts is beyond our capicities and even our competence. So I say we buy whatever time we can by accomodating the forces of darkness. Perhaps we can fight another day.

Or not. Whatever.
4 posted on 03/02/2004 3:39:38 PM PST by Asclepius (karma vigilante)
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To: swilhelm73
As Alexis de Tocqueville, probably the greatest observer of our society, wrote almost 200 years ago, America is a unique combination of secular government and religious (Judeo-Christian) society.

This is wrong. De Tocqueville didn't observe our society. He observed one that is gone with the wind. He observed a society, for example, where the ordinary citizen rarely came in contact with the Federal government. Many people here, myself include, wish that we were living in de Tocqueville's America. But we are not.

ML/NJ

5 posted on 03/02/2004 3:57:39 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Asclepius
Good guys never quit in the middle of a battle, com on, get your armour back on and get on the front line soldier! And I mean now, Everyones gotta die some how, minus well be fightin!!
6 posted on 03/02/2004 4:01:40 PM PST by Esther Ruth (Is it getting darker around here or am I just imagining it? DARKER BY THE SECOND!!!)
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To: Esther Ruth
The socialists have gotten environmental and regulatory control (NGO’s) over most businesses, resources of water, forests, oil, farming, ranching and mining. in order to eliminate their profits and shut them down.
It will be a BIG JOB, but we must weed them out of the government, education system, judicial system etc.
WE CAN DO IT!
7 posted on 03/02/2004 4:10:56 PM PST by Not a 60s Hippy
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To: swilhelm73
I say we simply allow the alqada folks to setup shop in San Francisco. That would handle the problem of gay marriages in the region in the short term.

Then we would be able to use routing al-qaeda as a justifiable grounds to clean out the place once and for all........
8 posted on 03/02/2004 4:26:27 PM PST by festus
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To: swilhelm73
One small quibble. You said, "unique American creation known as Judeo-Christian civilization". The rise of the nation-state, the greatest of which is the United States, is the fruit of Judao-Christian civillization, not the reverse.

Other than that small caveat I completely agree with you.

9 posted on 03/02/2004 4:37:30 PM PST by tlrugit
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To: swilhelm73
But the Left is preoccupied first with destroying America's distinctive values -- a Judeo-Christian society (as opposed to a secular one), capitalism (as opposed to socialism), liberty (as opposed to equality) and exceptionalism (as opposed to universalism, multiculturalism and multilateralism).

An insight by Praeger remarkable for its audacity. He is accusing the left of a conspiracy to steal our religion, impose socialism, deprive us of our liberty, and strip us naked before our enemies, foreign and domestic. Anyone familiar with the history of the Frankfurt School will acknowledge that he is not paranoid but prescient.

God grant that the whole of our people come to understand it as well.

10 posted on 03/02/2004 4:44:17 PM PST by nathanbedford
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To: swilhelm73
Without God's help, we are doomed. At the same time, we are kicking God out of the country.

What will make us turn back to God? Anything?

God/Yeshua help us...
11 posted on 03/02/2004 4:57:12 PM PST by dmanLA
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To: swilhelm73
Shall we give up? Shall Western Civilization die?

After everything? We now give up?

No. Never.
12 posted on 03/02/2004 8:21:36 PM PST by rogueleader
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To: swilhelm73
Bump
13 posted on 03/02/2004 8:27:26 PM PST by miltonim
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To: festus
Now that is a creative solution... ;-)
14 posted on 03/02/2004 8:33:36 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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