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Congress Must Pass the Fair Tax Act
CNSNews.com ^ | February 27, 2004 | Mac Collins (R-GA)

Posted on 03/02/2004 10:23:45 PM PST by esarlls3

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To: ancient_geezer
LOL!

How about a more pungent comment:

Congress needs to be changed periodically, much like a baby's diaper. And for the same reasons!
61 posted on 03/03/2004 4:16:56 AM PST by Taxman
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To: ancient_geezer
I would also ad NTU.org to your list. They have come out in favor of Fair Tax after survey of membership.
62 posted on 03/03/2004 5:10:32 AM PST by donozark
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To: Fledermaus
To believe a sales tax is "horribly regressive" one must believe that the "rich" don't buy more things than the "poor"...
63 posted on 03/03/2004 7:26:45 AM PST by null and void (Pay no attention to the 1's and 0's behind the voting booth curtain, and they'll return the favor...)
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To: donozark
I am creating a list of organization that support the NRST, NTU is on it.

The two sites I provide links for are focused solely on national retail sales tax and author as well as advocate NRST bills before Congress.
64 posted on 03/03/2004 8:56:53 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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To: PurVirgo
What's a girl like you doing in a place like this. BTW, hi sis.
65 posted on 03/03/2004 9:44:47 AM PST by 31R1O
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To: Fledermaus
One of the beauties of the FairTax is applying the tax to everything, no exceptions, and using the Family Consumption Allowance to eliminate the regressive nature of an uncompensated sales tax.

The liberals can fight to raise the "poverty" level if they want, of fiddle with the rate and budget deficit/surplus. Any attempt to allow exemptions of different rates for some products and/or services must be met with vigorous opposition. Every tax system can, and will, be corrupted by politicians if we don't hold their feet to the fire.

You are paying hidden taxes today for everything you buy.

The FairTax is the only proposal that:

If we need earned income credit, it is a welfare plan and should be administered as such. It is not a part of collecting revenue. If we want to encourage home ownership, we should offer grants or rebates as a welfare program. It is not a part of collecting revenue.

66 posted on 03/03/2004 9:55:18 AM PST by esarlls3
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To: esarlls3
The NRST is an inherently regressive form of taxation that is truly despotic.

Long term, it would result in a two-tiered socio-economic stratification of our society.

It is not disimilar to a 21st Century eco-feudal system where the corporate aristocracy invest and expand their property holdings completely tax-free, while the serfs are overburdened with the excessive taxation on consumption and persuaded that it's supposedly "fair" because the consumption taxes are redistributed through the formal social welfare system.
67 posted on 03/03/2004 10:00:05 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: null and void
"To believe a sales tax is 'horribly regressive' one must believe that the 'rich' don't buy more things than the 'poor'..."

That isn't the reason the FairTax isn't regressive. The rebate (Personal Consumption Allowance) is the mechanism for making sure it isn't. Fledermaus doesn't realize it, but in an earlier post, he argued forcefully for the PCA, rather than exempting certain items. One of the main reasons that this approach was selected was to keep government out of picking winners and losers. It is the simplest and fairest way to ensure that this sales tax proposal isn't regressive.
68 posted on 03/03/2004 10:01:39 AM PST by phil_will1
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To: lewislynn
Why would the same administration praising the exodus of jobs as good for America want to stop them with a radical change in the tax system?

Feeding the monster (Corporate imposed socialism)

69 posted on 03/03/2004 10:03:39 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: esarlls3
Fair Tax Bump.
70 posted on 03/03/2004 10:06:25 AM PST by reelfoot
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To: esarlls3
Mac Collins is ABSOLUTELY correct!
71 posted on 03/03/2004 10:13:22 AM PST by Bigun (IRSsucks@getridof it.com)
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To: esarlls3
Thanks for posting this. One of the most positive aspects about this is that we now have someone other than John Linder in congress coming out and educating people. We need more of this. I am meeting with Congressman Linder in a couple of weeks and I plan to make that point.

The big issue this year is jobs and there is nothing that the federal government could do which would stimulate job growth like the FairTax would.

On the other hand, free trade when you have a tax system that handicaps your producers is equivalent to economic suicide.
72 posted on 03/03/2004 10:14:13 AM PST by phil_will1
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To: Fledermaus
So what is the answer?

The current tax on our earnings is a terrible mess, everyone agrees.

The NRST comes as close to solving the problem as anything I've ever seen.

I'm in favor of giving it a shot.

I'd love to hear about a better plan.
73 posted on 03/03/2004 10:14:43 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: null and void
...it would take away congress' #1 social engineering...

And THAT alone makes it worth doing IMHO!!

74 posted on 03/03/2004 10:17:15 AM PST by Bigun (IRSsucks@getridof it.com)
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To: FairOpinion
The problem I see with this reform of the US Tax Code is 2 fold:

(FTR, I support it rather than the behemouth that is the current US Tax Code)

1. The number of people who are employed within this system would lose their jobs. (Accountants, CPA's, Tax Lawyers, etc.) This would constitute a large share of people who go from being "in the know" to being out of the know.
I doubt that they would willingly support a reform that would faze out their employment.

2. People who are on fixed income (the more-weathly ones) would not support it, since it would cut into their finances (even with the FCA allowances.)

So how can a change be made to convince the AARP to vote for the reform?

75 posted on 03/03/2004 10:38:59 AM PST by Maigrey (Oscar winning moment - Michael Moore being squished by an Oliphant.)
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To: Fledermaus
Perhaps, but at least we could embargo the tax by holding back on purchases...you wanna see pandering politicos squirm? ;-)
76 posted on 03/03/2004 10:45:23 AM PST by Veracious Poet (Cash cows are sacred in America...GOT MILKED???)
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To: Fledermaus
I think you forget that we could choose what we wanted to purchase, rather than have a gun held to our heads for a portion of our income...

Sounds like a no-brainer to me. ;-)
77 posted on 03/03/2004 10:47:47 AM PST by Veracious Poet (Cash cows are sacred in America...GOT MILKED???)
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To: ancient_geezer
"Congress needs a good spring cleaning and replacement of cobwebs!"

Correction: The two-party oligarchy needs to be watered down by creating viable parties outside of the GOP & DNC - It's the only way to change the status-quo inside the beltway and be rid of the Congressional Campers. ;-)
78 posted on 03/03/2004 10:52:31 AM PST by Veracious Poet (Cash cows are sacred in America...GOT MILKED???)
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To: Maigrey
On #1... not much to be done for the tax lawyers, I guess, but accountants/CPAs can get back to doing what they're supposed to do -- help people and companies track and manage their assets rather than dealing with tax compliance. A little aggressive salesmanship should kep most of them in business.

As for #2, the case that needs to be made is that the NRST wouldn't "cut in" on anyone's finances, as it basically replaces one tax with another of roughly the same amount. The biggest difference is that it is visible as opposed to hidden. Granted, this is not the easiest concept to explain -- this is a challenge.

Plus, all of those investments that pay that fixed income would be free of taxes on capital gains, and people with tax-deferred plans would really make out because that principal will completely escape income taxation.

79 posted on 03/03/2004 10:54:08 AM PST by kevkrom (Ask your Congresscritter about his or her stance on HR 25 -- the NRST)
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To: Bigun
And THAT alone makes it worth doing IMHO!!

Mine too, but then again, we aren't congresscritters, either...

80 posted on 03/03/2004 11:13:53 AM PST by null and void (Pay no attention to the 1's and 0's behind the voting booth curtain, and they'll return the favor...)
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