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The Jews Who Cried Wolf (Hubbub over The Passion)
National Review Online ^ | March 05, 2004 | Julia Gorin

Posted on 03/05/2004 1:17:40 PM PST by presidio9

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1 posted on 03/05/2004 1:17:40 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Wow. This would never have seen the light of day written by a non-Jewish person.
2 posted on 03/05/2004 1:27:20 PM PST by GulliverSwift (Keep the <a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/">gigolo</a> out of the White House!)
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To: presidio9
I agree with just about everything in this piece.

However, I am not against this movie because I am afraid it will stir up anti-Semitism (although it might). I am against it because it is just plain insulting. I agree entirely with her statement:

"True, the film depicts an imaginatively unflattering Jewish role in Christ's crucifixion — beyond what the Gospels suggest. So yes, Mel Gibson is his father's son."

An unflattering role (for Jews) beyond even what the Gospels suggest, made by the son of a well-known bigot.
3 posted on 03/05/2004 1:28:55 PM PST by Inyokern
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To: presidio9
Fantastic article. The left pretends to be outraged by insignificant issues, while leading us to the slaughter. Analogy to attacking George Bush for "daring" to refer to 9-11, with the real goal being to elect someone who will tear down our defenses, apologise, and set us up for future slaughter.
4 posted on 03/05/2004 1:29:27 PM PST by Williams
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Fantastic article.

No it isn't; it concedes the untruth that Gibson's movie is at least "indirectly" antisemitic.

5 posted on 03/05/2004 1:31:40 PM PST by churchillbuff (?)
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To: presidio9
Wow excellent article. As a Catholic I'm always a little torn. I seem to have more rage and anger about the bombs going off killing innocent Israelis then do most of the Jews do. How any Jew can possibly think about blindly supporting John French Kerry or any other democrat (save for Leiberman)is beyond me.
6 posted on 03/05/2004 1:36:29 PM PST by marlon
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To: Inyokern
Pray tell, in what light would the role of the Jews present at the time be flattering?

How is it insulting to you, since you were obviously born some 2000 years later.

Anyone who would blame a modern Jew for the death of Christ, who isn't dead BTW, has been previously influenced and bigoted anyway.

I don't know a single antisemitic person, and I've been an evangelical Christian my entire 36 years.
7 posted on 03/05/2004 1:37:15 PM PST by American_Centurion (Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas)
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However, I am not against this movie because I am afraid it will stir up anti-Semitism (although it might). I am against it because it is just plain insulting.

Have you seen the film, or are you basing your opinion on what people are telling you? The movie does not, in fact, present an unflattering role, "beyond what the Gospels suggest."

8 posted on 03/05/2004 1:37:38 PM PST by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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To ANYONE who calls this film anti-semitic...

Please name one thing Mel included in this film that was not in "Jesus Christ Superstar" 30 years ago.

Peace
BITS

9 posted on 03/05/2004 1:38:27 PM PST by Believe_In_The_Singularity
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To: Inyokern
An unflattering role (for Jews) beyond even what the Gospels suggest, made by the son of a well-known bigot.

Was Gibsons portrayal of Simon anti-semitic?

10 posted on 03/05/2004 1:39:45 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Inyokern
An unflattering role (for Jews) beyond even what the Gospels suggest, made by the son of a well-known bigot.

Well-known only because anti-Christian bigots made him famous as a means of defaming his son.

Didn't work though, B.

11 posted on 03/05/2004 1:41:48 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: American_Centurion
What has amazed me throughout this controversy is that so many self-important media types have gone to the trouble to discern how to interpret the role of the Jews in Jesus's death, but all have been too lazy to read any further than the last chapter of John.

"While the beggar held on to Peter and John, all the people were astonished and came running to them in the place called Solomon's Colonnade. When Peter saw this, he said to them: "Men of Israel, why does this surprise you? Why do you stare at us as if by our own power or godliness we had made this man walk? The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. You disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked that a murderer be released to you. You killed the author of life, but God raised him from the dead." Acts 3:11-15

12 posted on 03/05/2004 1:43:40 PM PST by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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Jews into the accuse mode of Christians.!.. about jews killing a jew about jewish things in a jewish country being anti-semitic is ludicrous... actually funny.. true, the word holocaust was not used... maybe thats it.,,

BUT probably its the money.. jealousy is a green monster.. even gentiles are very green.. and since liberalism is all about jealousy.. show me a conservative jew upset about the movie..

NAH!.. some liberals are intuitive about "where the money AT"... pure jealousy thats what it is... Bwhahahaha

Hopefully the NEXT movie will make them approach Kermit the Frogs color..

13 posted on 03/05/2004 1:44:43 PM PST by hosepipe
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"An unflattering role (for Jews) beyond even what the Gospels suggest, made by the son of a well-known bigot.


The Passion of The Christ has brought forth all the real creeps. "anti-Christian bigots" criticising the film and M. Gibson with anti-Semetic lies and other bovin fecal matter while appearing as the phony self righteous pious liars they are.
14 posted on 03/05/2004 1:44:56 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Inyokern
Have you seen the film? It shows Jews in the Sanhedren (sp) who opposed the persecution of Jesus. The Bible does *not* show that thus your statement is flat wrong.
15 posted on 03/05/2004 1:46:03 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: presidio9; Inyokern
Amen.

It is true.

Apparently Inyokern is a hit and run poster.

Inyokern: If you want anyone to believe anything you say around here, you have to stick around to defend it. It's called debate.
16 posted on 03/05/2004 1:51:43 PM PST by American_Centurion (Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime - Nicole Gelinas)
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I feel like I have been screaming this at the top of my lungs ever since I saw the movie... it's nice to see I'm not the only one who can see what's really going on here.
17 posted on 03/05/2004 1:54:01 PM PST by thoughtomator (Political Correctness is fascism)
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To: Inyokern
Did you actually see the movie?
18 posted on 03/05/2004 1:54:53 PM PST by thoughtomator (Political Correctness is fascism)
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To: American_Centurion
So, the Apostles did, in fact, place blame with the Jews. Gibson could justifiably included it if he wished to, but did not. Of course, any one with half a brain understands that it is impossible to be anti-semetic and Christian at the same time. The two philosophies are mutually exclusive. I cite this passage only to immediately and completely discredit Inyokern's point. He is 100% wrong.
19 posted on 03/05/2004 1:56:37 PM PST by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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Bttt
20 posted on 03/05/2004 1:59:29 PM PST by SkyPilot
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