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The Hunt Heats Up
Newsweek ^ | March 15 issue | Michael Hirsh and John Barry

Posted on 03/07/2004 1:13:59 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182

March 15 issue - Admirers of Bill McRaven like to tell a story of his courage and grit. Not against the enemy, but against the legendarily ruthless Dick Marcinko, a gung-ho Navy SEAL commander in the Vietnam era who used to swallow sacs of cobra venom and boast that "killing is my mission." Marcinko once ordered McRaven, then a young lieutenant on the super-elite SEAL Team Six, to perform "some questionable activities," recounts a former Special Forces commander. McRaven refused and "would not back down." (Marcinko did not return phone calls seeking comment.) "McRaven was a hero among all the junior officers for his stand," says the commander. "It was considered a career-ending move."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: binladen; manhunt; obl; southasia; taskforce121; wot
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1 posted on 03/07/2004 1:14:00 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: harpseal; river rat; archy; SLB; sneakypete; Matthew James; Squantos; Future Snake Eater
Ping
2 posted on 03/07/2004 1:21:00 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Mmmm, cobra venom sacs . . . Especially good on Wheaties!
3 posted on 03/07/2004 1:23:57 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Travis McGee
"Bill is reputed to be the smartest SEAL that ever lived," .............

Damn , Thats gonna look good on his resume !

As to Usama....tick...tick....tick.....

Stay Safe !

4 posted on 03/07/2004 1:30:31 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Grampa Dave
This has to do with Task Force 121. If you've not seen it you might be interested.
5 posted on 03/07/2004 1:42:02 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Dog; Coop; swarthyguy; Boot Hill; Angelus Errare; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Prodigal Son; ...
Link here has some interesting information about the hunt for OBL and Zawahiri.
6 posted on 03/07/2004 1:43:42 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Anyone know what Marcinko ordered McRaven to do? Perhaps it was to eat some cobra venom sacs:
Cobras are all venomous, yet most are not poisonous, so long as the venom glands are not eaten.
Don't know how reliable that is. Got it here, a cobra info site for kids. Still, wouldn't advise eating venom sacs since spitting cobras can do a lot of damage to you just spitting the crap on you, like blinding you, for example.

That aside, how good is this McRaven anyway? I'm a bit suspicious of anyone Newsweek slobbers all over, especially when they start pronouncing that he's the smartest SEAL ever. Sounds like the crap we heard about Hitlery. Maybe it'd be better to have someone like Marcinko chasing bin Laden, rather than Newsweek's favorite Navy SEAL? Just asking the guys who really know!

7 posted on 03/07/2004 2:00:26 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Travis McGee
Would like to add to this, but loose lips - you know the rest.
8 posted on 03/07/2004 4:48:10 AM PST by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: Cap Huff
Thanks for the ping!
9 posted on 03/07/2004 7:48:59 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Cap Huff
Thanks for the ping, but I can't read anything from NewsWeak. They will find some way to insult our SpecOps, our military, Rummy and GW.

Please ping me on other Task Force 121 data.
10 posted on 03/07/2004 8:54:54 AM PST by Grampa Dave (America can't afford a 9/10 Kerry after 9/11.)
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To: Grampa Dave
OK. I understand fully your disgust with this particular news outlet. I will remember to ping you to any other Taks Force 121 stuff I see.
11 posted on 03/07/2004 9:10:38 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: LibWhacker
Re Marcinko: Personally I would prefer most of the other operator officers in charge of the op comparaed to Mr. Marcinko. Just a personal opinion.
12 posted on 03/07/2004 9:18:21 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: LibWhacker
Re Cobra venom. If mixed with alchohol it is quite harmless and is fully digested by the stomach just do not have bleeding gums. Marcinko stated he had his mixed with cognac in Cambodia. This was not unique and the Indian Cobra's of SE Asia have different venom than the African spitting Cobra.
13 posted on 03/07/2004 9:20:16 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Travis McGee
I think sometime soon the task force will bag their quarry. The hard part is gathering the intel to know exactly where said quarry is. Therefor there will be a whole lot of sneak and peaks going on. Eyes on the ground sometimes even outdo eyes in the sky.
14 posted on 03/07/2004 9:26:37 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
McRaven certainly is one guy I wouldn't want hunting me! We are very fortunate to have such a wealth of talented people in our Special Ops.

Here is McRaven's book: Spec Ops : Case Studies in Special Operations Warfare: Theory and Practice

15 posted on 03/07/2004 10:16:16 AM PST by Gritty ("Let us have faith that Right makes Might, and in that faith let us dare to do our duty-Abe Lincoln)
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To: Travis McGee
Isn't it nice to see real professionals in charge? Quite a difference from the Klinton days...
16 posted on 03/07/2004 6:03:10 PM PST by Matthew James (SPEARHEAD!)
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To: LibWhacker
It was my understanding that almost all snake venom could be consumed without danger of poisoning. It is only when injected into the blood that it is dangerous. Not sure about Cobra venom, but rattlesnake venom is just pure protein....your digestive tract can handle it.
17 posted on 03/07/2004 6:23:36 PM PST by NeonKnight
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To: Squantos
I always thought it was ME. But that's just IMHO.
18 posted on 03/07/2004 8:53:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Matthew James
Amen.
19 posted on 03/07/2004 8:54:14 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: LibWhacker; harpseal
Marcinko is NOT what you think. And the incident McR may have refused to take part in may have been the ritual killing of stray dogs with a knife, but I may be mixing up my old stories.
20 posted on 03/07/2004 8:57:17 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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