VETERANS FOR PEACE PROTEST (Kerry/Kennedy Bush Bash!)

VETERANS FOR PEACE ^

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Who are these "VETERANS FOR PEACE "

Are they the 1960's Protestors? Is that why they are veterans! How many are actual American Soldiers?

We, having dutifully served our nation, do hereby affirm our greater responsibility to serve the cause of world peace. To this end we will work, with others

No where does it say they were in the military are they old Peace nic's?

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Supporting Contribution

Donate to the Iraq Water Project

Donate to VFP Fact Finding Team to Iraq

Contribute to BRING THEM HOME NOW!

Contribute to Korea Peace Campaign

Contribute to The Jhai Foundation Remote IT project

Donate to the Ambulance for Palestine Project

Contribute to the effort for publishing "Peace Ads" - sponsored

Contribute to VFP Emissary fund

Renew Membership - Veteran or Associate $

Renew Veterans for Peace membership - Supporting Member

Renew Veterans for Peace membership - Sustaining Member

Renew Veterans for Peace membership - Become Lifetime Member

Publications

War is a Racket by Maj.Gen. Smedley Butler

Addicted to War! by Joel Andreas

Vets for Peace

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more like Traders to Freedom!

[smoothsailing]

It's probably those union guys.

Next week they'll be saving the whales.

[Joe 6-pack]

They may be veterans; however, I'd be interested in seeing the characterization of their discharges. I'll bet a healthy percentage are not, "Honorable."

[Wild Irish Rogue]

40 years and they still haven't bathed.

[elbucko]

I'll bet a healthy percentage are not, "Honorable."

Yup, I'll bet their DD-214's read like rap sheets. That is if they actually have "214's"

[TiaS]

I'll bet you are wrong about them not being honorably discharged and I'll bet some of them even go back to WWII and the beginning of the nuclear age. They have seen war, been there and done that, and would like to find a more constructive way to solve disagreements between countries.

Most of those beating the drums of war have never seen or participated in one.

[Mo1]

They don't speak for all veterans

[ApplegateRanch]

>>>That is if they actually have "214's"

Unfortunately, some of us don't through no fault of our own. I don't.

I just have a certificate stating one can't be issued because a Records Center fire destroyed my records.

You can damn betcha I have my Medical, Under Honorable Conditions Discharge to go with that cert. But no 214.

Still, I bet you are basically right, and they don't have any papers.

[DeBug=int13]

 

 

 

Veterans for Peace, Inc. (VFP) -

 

 

Phooey on them, too -

 

 

 

CEASE FIRE!
VETERANS FOR PEACE--From Warriors To Diplomats (1999 story)
http://www.countryink.com/currart1.html

 

Membership in Veterans for Peace is not limited to veterans with honorable discharges. Associate memberships are open to family members and may soon be Membership in Veterans for Peace is not limited to veterans with honorable discharges. Associate memberships are open to family members and may soon be expanded to include anyone who supports their principles. Contact them at (202) 347-6780, 1511 K Street NW, Suite 525; Washington, DC 20005; email: VFP@igc.org.

 

 

There's been two addresses found for them - don't know (yet) for sure whether these are old, new or both current

 

 

1511 K Street, NW
Washington, DC 20005
(202) 347-6780
fax: 202-347-6781
VFP@igc.org

 

One thing kinda interesting (maybe)  - The 733 15th Street address sits smack among a number of foreign embassies

 

733 15th Street, NW
Suite 928
Washington, DC 20005
(202) 347-6780 voice
(202) 347-6781 fax
vfp@igc.org

 

The 733 15th Street address is the "Woodward Building" in D.C., and "VFP" apparently shares building space with some interesting neighbors, among -

 

Volunteer Coordinator National Organization for Women (NOW), Second Floor
International Labor Rights Fund. (Human Rights and Labor Laws)
Gray Panthers
American Civil Liberties Union National Prison Project, Suite 620
Code Pink Women's Pre-emptive Strike For Peace, #507     (how convenient)

 

 

 

 

 

"Veterans for Peace" is shown as a grant recipient from the HKH Foundation of New York, NY

per http://www.hkhfdn.org/directory/national.html
Veterans for Peace
David Hart
1511 K Street, NW
Washington, DC 20005
(202) 347-6780
fax: 202-347-6781
VFP@igc.org
"An educational organization made up of veterans working to educate the general public concerning the cost of war, the arms race, US foreign policy issues, and the exigency of abolishing war as an instrument of international policy."

 

Contact addy -

HKH Foundation -aka- the Harold K. Hochschild Foundation
521 Fifth Avenue, Suite 1612
New York, NY 10175
hkh@hkhfdn.org

 

 

 

Here's a small rundown of some top grantees of HKH across varied timeframes -

per http://www.activistcash.com/donor_detail.cfm?DONOR_ID=125

 

 

	Activist Group		Total Donated		Time Frame
	Tides Foundation & Tides Center		$235,000.00		1991 - 1997
	Natural Resources Defense Council		$185,000.00		1990 - 2001
	Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy		$151,600.00		1997 - 2001
	Greenpeace		$100,000.00		1995 - 2001
	Western Organization of Resource Councils		$50,000.00		2001 - 2001
	Center for Media & Democracy		$45,000.00		1999 - 2001
	Union of Concerned Scientists		$40,000.00		1995 - 1998
	Center for Food Safety		$35,000.00		1996 - 1996
	Organic Consumers Association		$35,000.00		1999 - 1999
	American Corn Growers Association		$20,000.00		1999 - 1999

 

 

 

 

 

"Veterans for Peace" is listed as an organization that has had direct contact with the International Action Center - you know, the outfit apparently founded by Ramsey Clark 

http://www.iacenter.org/orgs.htm
"International Action Center"

 

Towards the top, after wading through the "mission" gobbley goop -

Organizations opposed to sanctions

 

The following list covers a number of groups that have organized some form of opposition to sanctions against Iraq, especially those based in countries that were part of the alliance that waged war on Iraq in early 1991. The list is by no means complete, but consists of those groups that have been in direct contact with the International Action Center. The activities carried out by the organizations described here cover a wide variety of approaches to opposing sanctions: providing humanitarian assistance, organizing political opposition, publishing books and other educational material, and taking direct action. They illustrate both the growing opposition to sanctions and the variety of tactics to fight them.

 

 

(and what a list it is)

 

 

("Veterans for Peace" is shown using the 5011 "K" St. NW, #525 Washington address here)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sprinkled around on the "Veterans for Peace" site, such as on the main page http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Defaultold.htm, can be seen "Email VFP", which turns out to be vfp@igc.org ,

 

 

What is "igc.org"???

 

 

A quick descriptor is on http://www.cein.net/cgi-bin/en/company_info.asp?CID=263 (circa 1999)

Institute for Global Communications (IGC)
Address   POBox 29904
              San Francisco, CA  94126-0904
Voice     (415) 561-6100
Fax       (415) 561-6101
Web       http://www.igc.apc.org/

 

http://www.igc.org/

 

 

Excerpts off of http://www.cein.net/cgi-bin/en/company_info.asp?CID=263 

 

Since 1992, IGC and its APC members have been the primary information and communications service provider at UN world conferences, including the 1992 United Nations Conference on the Environment and Development in Rio de Janeiro, the 1993 United Nations Conference on Human Rights in Vienna, the 1994 International Conference on Population and Development in Cairo and the 1995 World Conference on Women in Beijing.

 

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

 

and most interesting, down towards the bottom -

 

IGC Internet is a project of the Tides Center, a 501 (c) 3 tax-exempt organization.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On their "links" page is a link to the September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, which stuck out like a sore thumb
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/links.htm

(Them again)

 

 

 

And finally, Veterans for Peace has a listing in the San Francisco Bay Area Progressive Directory - http://www.bapd.org/dir.html, an index of organizations in the San Francisco area that are related to "progressive activism", though only their website is listed for contact

 

Hmm, okay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

more Ketchup stains.......

 

 

 

 

 

[backhoe]

Thanks, DeBug! Linked, copied, & emailed.

[DeBug=int13]

 

Ewww - noticed on the post that the fonts are all over the map and first paragraph has a doubled sentence - actually supposed to look like -

 

 

Membership in Veterans for Peace is not limited to veterans with honorable discharges. Associate memberships are open to family members and may soon be expanded to include anyone who supports their principles. Contact them at (202) 347-6780, 1511 K Street NW, Suite 525; Washington, DC 20005; email: VFP@igc.org.

 

 

Okay, otherwise. Darn comp' gremlins

 

 

 

[Joe Bfstplk]

Kerry's war record:

[Hon]

Excellent research, DeBug!

[DeBug=int13]

 

 

 

 

Thanky,

 

We're all past due getting out "the big shovel" on digging around about this.

 

Always something more to look up and track down

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks more great data from you.

Pinging others who like to "index" good data like this!

[Grampa Dave]

If they have discharge papers, what were the terms of the discharges?

Were they other than honorable?

Were they discharged for acts of perversion, malingering, refusal to obey a direct command, AWOL, misconduct or worse?

[restornu]

Thank you for that data!

Great!

[restornu]

Thank you for that data!

Great!

[onyx]

#13 --- that is powerful.