New round in Gun Issue

Newsday .com ^ | 3/4/04 | Paul Vitello

[cruiserman]

Am I right?

Correct, unfortunately.

[1066AD]

Why not politely set him straight ? He didn't even mention background check etc.

Paul.Vitello@newsday.com

[Blood of Tyrants]

You would probably have more luck explaining it to a chimp.

[Eaker]

Does this mean I can start using 7.62 X 39mm in my AR-15?

Looks like a tight fit, but I think I can make it work.

I'll let you know!!

[Joe Brower]

With the right upper, no problem!

Finding mags is a bit of a chore, though. Pricey, too.

[MegaSilver]

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-Mineola), who is known among NRA-backers as that woman from Long Island who just won't shut up - just because her husband was killed and her son was wounded by a madman in 1993 with a legally purchased gun, she blames the NRA - has been working the hallways of Congress this week in an effort to bring to a vote a bill that would make the temporary ban permanent.

This statement damns the whole article itself.

[DMZFrank]

The AWB is directly about the RKBA.

Gun grabbers are increasingly trying to separate the right to keep and bear arms from its constitutional underpinnings. To everyone but many liberals and gun grabbers the word militia implies a body organized for military use. The Supreme Court Miller decision of 1939 held that the militia was 'A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline.' And further that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time."

To begin with, only the national government was represented at the trial. With nobody arguing to the contrary, the court followed standard court procedure and assumed that the law was constitutional until proven otherwise. If both sides were present, the outcome may have been much different.

However, since only one party showed up, the case will stand in the court records as is. As to the militia, Mr. Justice McReynolds related the beliefs of the Founding Fathers when commenting historically about the Second Amendment. He stated that, ". . .The common view was that adequate defense of country and laws could be secured through the militia- civilians primarily, soldiers on occasion.

"The significance attributed to the term Militia appears from the debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense.

It is clear that the firearms that are most suited for modern-day militia use are those semi automatic military pattern weapons that the yellow press calls "assault weapons". Since nations such as the Swiss trust their citizenry with true selective fire assault rifles, it seems to me that this country ought to be at least able to trust its law-abiding citizenry with the semi automatic version.

Self-defense is a vital corollary benefit of the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. But its primary constitutional reason for being is for service in the well-regulated militia which is necessary to the security of a free state. Don't let the gun grabbers and their politician allies separate us from the constitutional reason for the right to keep and bear arms. Miltary pattern weapons are precisly the weapons that should be MOST constitutionally protected. Even defenders of the right often neglect the constitutional aspect of it, and concentrate on their near non-existent use in crime.

PostScript: In the vernacular of the founders well-regulated meant well drilled and organized.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

Dude thats too funny!

[Destructor]

"And even worse is that the editor and "fact checker" were even more ignorant than the writer!"

Well, obviously YOU haven't seen very many movies!

[El Gato]

Does this mean I can start using 7.62 X 39mm in my AR-15?

Sure, but you'll have to buy a 7.62x39 upper first. My brother in law has (or had last I knew) one of those. OTOH, AK-47 clones can be had in 5.56X45 as well. But you knew all that .... didn't you?

[Travis McGee]

The facts don't matter to the grabboids. Never did, never will.

[oyez]

The Bushmaster, a version of the military's standard AK-47 rifle, was the kind of gun they had in mind

How stupid can you get? These are the people that want to run the country and frighteningly, may have a hand in running country and do run some local and state governments.

[William Terrell]

This will make it possible for gunmakers to return their products to their full monty of killing power: more thrust per squeeze. . .

But, if I'm going to have a gun, I want the full monty of killing power. If I don't have and somebody else does. . .

[gatex]

"The only 'loophole' I've seen is that with my Texas CHL card, they don't bother to do any background check. Technically I could still have the card after being out on bail for murder."

What about GC section 411.187. SUSPENSION OF LICENSE.

"(a) A license may be suspended under this section if the license holder :
.....
(5)has baeen charged by indictment with the commission of an offense that would make the license holder ineligible for aa license on conviction; or"

[source -- Texas Concealed Handgun Laws and Selected Statutes ].

[Travis McGee]

Make sure somebody is taking pictures when you shoot that 7.62X39 out of your AR=15!

[Monty22]

Except they only check the card, not the background of it. Present it, no checks done.

[gatex]

"Except they only check the card, not the background of it. Present it, no checks done."

If it is suspended, do you still have it ? I thought you had to turn it in.

[supercat]

Pick up the Yellow Pages and go to "Guns." Call the first gun store you find. Ask what you'll need to purchase a semi-automatic military-style sniper rifle like the one used by John Allen Muhammad and John Lee Malvo to kill 10 people during their 2002 Washington, D.C.-area murder spree.

Pick up the Yellow Pages and go to "Hareware." Call the first Hardware store you find. Ask what you'll need to purchase a Axelike the one used by xxxx and xxxxxx to kill 4 people during their rain of terror spree.

Better yet, ask what you'll need to buy a box knife like the one used by some terrorists to kill thousands of people in their "killing spree".

[Monty22]

Well, it could be 'lost' always.

I haven't tested the system, but it seems like a weak point to me.

[Blood of Tyrants]

I wasted two hours a couple of weeks ago on a rainy Sunday afternoon watching a stupid movie with Tony Banderas where he would shoot 30 times out of a pair of revolvers without reloading, semi-auto pistols would magically lock back on an empty magazine and then change themselves and close the slide. It really sucked but I used the time to clean my rifles.