The Bible and Homosexuality

WND.com ^ | 03-11-04 | Farah, Joseph

[nonsporting]

I'm quite aware of what some Christians opine are the attributes of god. Not everyone agrees with them, or finds you what you have described to be valid.

To disprove these as attributes of God you simply must go to the Bible and find contradicting assertions.

It's not what I "opine"; I am nothing. It's what the Bible says. These are just a few justifications for the above claims:

He is the Judge of all. (Hebrews 12:23)

He hates sin. (Proverbs 6:16)

He is faithful and true. (Rev 1:5, 3:7).

Or perhaps what you meant to say is what "Christians" say, not what "some" Christians say. Again, what a Christian is is definitional. Not what I opine, but what the Bible says.

[MEGoody]

Disagreement is not hate, except in the minds of children. Perhaps that is the problem. . .you have some growing up to do.

[stranger and pilgrim]

>>Disagreement is not hate, except in the minds of children. Perhaps that is the problem. . .you have some growing up to do.<<

Excuse me. What is it, specifically, that you and I disagree about?

[rapture76]

who worship the creature more than the creator



Wonder who the creature is? Satan?

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

"If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises fron the dead." (Luke 16:31)

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

3. Contextualization--C means that only in that particular sitz em leben, the Mosaic Law, but we as Christians aren't under that law but under grace where there is neither male or female and, so, it doesn't apply to us.

"If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises fron the dead." (Luke 16:31)

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

"Receiving in themselves that recompence of their error." Sounds a lot like HIV.

Sounds like Robertson and Falwell ;-)

[freedumb2003]

It's not what I "opine"; I am nothing. It's what the Bible says. These are just a few justifications for the above claims:

If the Bible is 100% clear then why are there so many different Christian sects? Why is there Judaism?

[azhenfud]

"I've read the Bible..."

I READ the Bible. I agree with the author - Kerry is an idiot.

[HereInTheHeartland]

"There are NO fence riders in God's Kingdom! No such thing as accepting God half way!"

Good analogy. Guys who ride the fence, end up with high pitched voices.

[little jeremiah]

"Both ways"???

Why did I even sully my eyes and read this??

(Rhetorical question, we always need to know what the enemy is up to.)

[Phibes]

My interpretation from the bible has always been that homosexuality and sodomy is an abomination towards God and an unforgivable sin.

At this point in my life, I see no reason to change my beliefs. I don't think God put me here to sit-n-spin on another guy. NO THANKS!

[little jeremiah]

Just noticed the date on the article.

[4yearlurker]

When the angels were at Lot's house and a crowd gathered didn't Lot offer his daughters to the crowd,but the crowd wanted the men? Wasn't that city destroyed by God?

[aruanan]

It seems as though you didn't read the first part of my post. C is one of the excuses people offer for whatever they want to do.

3. Contextualization--C means that only in that particular sitz em leben, the Mosaic Law, but we as Christians aren't under that law but under grace where there is neither male or female and, so, it doesn't apply to us.

If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises fron the dead.(Luke 16:31)

Or as I said to begin with in my post:

There's no doubt in what [the Bible] actually says on the topic; same for adultery, fornication (of any variety), murder, slander, etc.; even calling a Christian who doesn't provide for his family worse than an unbeliever. It's just that if A wants B and C says he cannot have it and A wants some aspect of C to make his life more palatable, then A has to come up with reasons to nullify C's injunction against B.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

No, I read it all... just provided you with the Gospel reference...

[Theodore R.]

Yes and Yes, but "humanists" don't believe "fairy tales."

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

STATEMENT: " Generally speaking, the best they can do is to suggest Jesus Himself never spoke out against homosexuality."

RESPONSE: No person ever brought the subject to Christ's attention.

[Syberyenta]

I told myself I wasn't going to take the bait this time.

But I thought He came to bring stuff to _our_ attention, not the other way around.

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quoted post:
STATEMENT: " Generally speaking, the best they can do is to suggest Jesus Himself never spoke out against homosexuality."

RESPONSE: No person ever brought the subject to Christ's attention.

[nonsporting]

If the Bible is 100% clear then why are there so many different Christian sects? Why is there Judaism?

The Bible is infallible. It may not be 100% clear--this is a performance issue on the part of the reader. Some of the Bible is a mystery (an understatement).

There are probably many Christian sects because of fallible men. God in His Mercy may have provided for this. We are saved not because we are infallible, but because we are fallible and are in need of salvation. If the Holy Spirit impresses upon us our need for salvation, we can receive it by faith (justification) and can try to live our lives consistent with that faith (sanctification). We fall; we get up; we go on. But we are no longer stumbling in darkness.

Is your last question "Why didn't all the Jews become Christians?" In the gospel of John it says that He came to his own (the Jews) and they did not receive Him. (John 1:11). Salvation is "from" the Jews, but it has come to the "Gentiles" to make them (the Jews) jealous (Romans 11:11). There will continue to be Jews until His second coming where they play a part during the tribulation (see Revelation 7:4ff). God chose this stiff necked people. Woe to anyone who persecutes them.