Divided over gay marriage

LA Times ^ | March 12, 04 | Roy Rivenburg

[churchillbuff]

From LA Times of March 12: ...

"Divided over gay marriage" by Roy Rivenburg Paula Ettelbrick, a law professor who runs the International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission, recommends legalizing a wide variety of marriage alternatives, including polyamory, or group wedlock. An example could include a lesbian couple living with a sperm-donor father, or a network of men and women who share sexual relations.

One aim, she says, is to break the stranglehold that married heterosexual couples have on health benefits and legal rights. The other goal is to "push the parameters of sex, sexuality and family, and in the process transform the very fabric of society." ... [snip]

[syriacus]

No one is denying any gay person the right to get married

All they need to do is find someone of the opposite sex to be married to them.

Marriage is defined as the union of a man and a woman.

[narses]

Dilemma at San Francisco City Hall Marriage License Office

Political Correctness and a Discrimination-free Society for All!!

(A possible future scene at City Hall in San Francisco)


"Next."
"Good morning. We want to apply for a marriage license."
"Names?"
"Tim and Jim Jones."
"Jones? Are you related? I see a resemblance."
"Yes, we're brothers."
"Brothers? You can't get married."
"Why not? Aren't you giving marriage licenses to same gender couples?"

"Yes, thousands. But we haven't had any siblings. That's incest!"
"Incest? No, we are not gay."
"Not gay? Then why do you want to get married?"
"For the financial benefits, of course. And we do love each other.
Besides, we don't have any other prospects."
"But we're issuing marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples who've been denied equal protection under the law. If you are not gay, you can get married to a woman."
"Wait a minute. A gay man has the same opportunity to marry a woman as I have. But just because I'm straight doesn't mean I want to marry a woman. I want to marry Jim."
"And I want to marry Tim, Are you going to discriminate against us just because we are not gay?"
"All right, all right. I'll give you your license.


Next.
"Hi. We are here to get married."
"Names?"
"John Smith, Jane James, Robert Green, and June Johnson."
"Who wants to marry whom?"
"We all want to marry each other."
"But there are four of you!"
"That's right. You see, we're all bisexual. I love Jane and Robert, Jane loves me and June, June loves Robert and Jane, and Robert loves June and me.
All of us getting married together is the only way that we can express our sexual preferences in a marital relationship."
"But we've only been granting licenses to gay and lesbian couples."
"So you're discriminating against bisexuals!"
"No, it's just that, well, the traditional idea of marriage is that it's just for couples."
"Since when are you standing on tradition?"
"Well, I mean, you have to draw the line somewhere."
"Who says? You didn't draw the line at tradition marriage.
There's no logical reason to limit marriage to couples only.
The more the better. Besides, we demand our rights! The mayor says the constitution guarantees equal protection under the law. Give us a marriage license!"
"All right, all right, here's your license."


"Next,"
"Hello, I would like to marry my dog"
"What!! Marry your dog --are your crazy?"
"How dare you insult me and my dog."
"But, you cannot marry your dog!"
"Who says so? I want my consitutional rights. You marry everyone else so you must marry me and Fido. I'll sue you if you deny me my rights."
"All Right, All Right here's your license"


"Next."
"Hello, I'd like a marriage license."
"In what names?"
"David Deets."
"And the other man?"
"That's all. I want to marry myself."
"Marry yourself? What do you mean?"
"Well, my psychiatrist says I have a dual personality, so I want to marry the two together. Maybe I can file a joint income-tax return. I have constitutional rights!!"



Think about it................

[AdamSelene235]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE----HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

[sociotard]

Lets see if the comic will display

[jwalsh07]

She's barnyardaphobic.

[supercat]

From what I remember of anthropology, every society that has lasted long enough to write about has recognized the concept of a marriage as being between one man and one or more women; while many societies limit the number of women to one, that limitation is not nearly so universal as the requirements that there be exactly one man and at least one woman.

Indeed, I would suggest that the question of whether polygyny should be allowed is in many ways not so much a moral issue as a practical one. Since multiple men cannot share a woman (if they did, they wouldn't know whose children were whose) then unless there are many more women than men, allowing some men to have multiple wives would produce a shortage of women.

To be sure, women are well within their rights to insist that they be their husband's sole love interest, and I suspect the vast majority of women would so insist. But polygyny is far less morally dubious than the 'same sex marriage' notions that have been being pused lately.

[DentsRun]

"Saying that children need mothers and fathers might come to be regarded as a form of hate speech, he adds."

You start out with gay marriage and pretty soon saying out loud what was common sense for the last 10,000 years is now a form of hate speech. I know where this leads. All speech other than politically correct speed makes you subject to criminal prosecution. During the 1921 famine in Russia it was a capital offense to use the word famine to refer to the famine. That's why hate speech laws (and gay marriage) are bad ideas.

[Jaded]

This is wrong on about 7 different levels. The descent in to h*ll continues.

[Therapist]

This ain't news to us southern folks. Golly, Bill & Hill & Gennifer & Paula & Monica etc. C'mon you crackers up North have to get with the democrat program.

[Atchafalaya]

Rick Santorum's prophecy. Hey dude check out that box over there with Pandora written on it; open it up dude!

[HitmanLV]

Relax. I am in the legal education industry and the thing these jokers like more than anything is a podium and a chance to talk and intimidate people.

They are a laughable lot, most of them. It's just business as usual.

[philetus]

The other goal is to "push the parameters of sex, sexuality and family, and in the process transform the very fabric of society."


This is they're true goal. They live to experience the joy of sex. Any kind of sex.

Lower the voting age to 14 by:John Vasconcellos

Greg Shields, spokesman for the Boy Scouts of America said, "A person who engages in homosexual conduct is not a role model for those (family) values." California Sen. John Vasconcellos, a gay-rights advocate, distributed a memo concerning Millan's view to every state legislator. (Christian Times.) The good Senator also advocates state funding to research the medical uses of marijuana and ways to distribute it. When this is all passed the homosexual leader with aids can also legally smoke their "medicine" before the boy scouts without fear of reprimand.

Is this his son?

http://www.sfaf.org/aboutsfaf/outreach/index.html?april01/development_dir.html~frontpage

John Vasconcellos Takes Over as SFAF's Director of Development

After eight years as Director of Development of the San Francisco AIDS Foundation, Jane Breyer is turning over the reins to Associate Director John Vasconcellos.

[Atchafalaya]

I hope someone shows up just like in the Woody Allen flick; the skit with Gene Wilder and the Greek guy that was in love with his ewe; then Wilder fell in love with it. NAMSLA(North American Man Sheep Love Association) will rock when it is chartered. Motto: Bully For Woolly Love.
I hope they keep it coming.

[Atchafalaya]

Trust me, this ain't about benefits; civil unions would take care of that. This is about limiting parental control over our children and nothing else.

[the right side jedi]

Deep within the article:
[Bronson says he cringes when he sees coverage of gay marriage. "It's always the same story. There's a photo of a loving, caring, monogamous lesbian couple, raising adopted orphans. 'We only want the rights given to everyone else,' they plead," he recently wrote. "In our Oprah-fied culture, blubbery emotion must be fed. So the definition of marriage that has outlasted the Great Pyramids and crosses more cultural, geographic, religious and ethnic boundaries than the Great Wall of China is crumbling under the slow drip of 'I want.' "]

I'd like to thank him for saying exactly what I've been thinking about the media and many of my "conservative" friends who support gay marriage.

[longtermmemmory]

After we pass teh FMA,

WE START DEFUNDING LAW SCHOOLS!!!!


There is no reason to ANY law school which is overwhelmingly leftist.

law schools are just as much a branch of the judicial as west point is part of the executive.

[zeugma]

How about "line marriages"? Readers of R. Heinlien might be familiar...

[zeugma]

That sounds so much like a Monty Python sketch, I thought it was from a lost episode or something!

[adam_az]

"An example could include a lesbian couple living with a sperm-donor father, or a network of men and women who share sexual relations."

Sounds suspiciously like discrimination against straight normal heteros to me.