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| 03-17-04
| The Heavy Equipment Guy
Posted on 03/17/2004 2:08:40 PM PST by backhoe
This seems like this could be our ace in the hole...
4 DOLLARS A GALLON FOR GAS BY ELECTION DAY - BREAKING ON DRUDGE RADIO
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I've been saying for years the way to revive and restore the economy ( and it would have headed off these oil price problems as well ) was to-
1- drill for gas & oil like crazy- onshore, offshore, and in Alaska
2- go nuclear for power
3- convert stationary plants to clean coal technology
4- slash taxes and regulations like crazy
Wow- just in time for $3 a gallon gasoline...
Don't forget the knee-jerk reaction of all left wing liberals when it comes to energy--
First, they just lie. They always lie. They start every single argument with lies. They paint ANWR as some pristine wildlife refuge where all of our cute furry animals are sitting in green fields frolicking with each other.
Second, their history of bad predictions that never panned out are never brought up. All of this garbage was brought up decades ago with drilling in Purdhome Bay and the pipeline.
Third, the left demands energy independence but can't get their brains out of the toilet long enough to realize what it will take to do so. They won't allow nuclear, coal digging, oil drilling, offshore rigs, etc. But they instead throw out more decade old arguments about solar power and wind power (unless those windmills are off the coast of Martha's Vineyard and ruin a liberals view).
-more-
When I started driving in 1977 the price of regular was $ 0.58 per gallon.
God forbid we drill Alaska...
Most of the price of a gallon of gas is from taxes. But don't hold your breath waiting for any pol to suggest a cut. I heard three retail clerks talking the other day about how we should tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Like that would fix everything. Sheesh. People are so unbelievably clueless.
The $1.60 or so a gallon we are paying is about 80 cents gas and 80 cents tax. Europeans $4.00 a gallon is 80 cents gas and $3.20 tax.
Most of the price of a gallon of gas is from taxes. But don't hold your breath waiting for any pol to suggest a cut. I heard three retail clerks talking the other day about how we should tap the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Like that would fix everything. Sheesh. People are so unbelievably clueless.
More idiocy, from idiots:
Other ideas?
TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: backhoe; biodiesel; energyprices; ethanol; gasprices
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To: RightWhale
Say, I appreciate that link- thank you.
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:00:31 PM PST
by
backhoe
(--30--)
To: AdamSelene235
What I don't get is, even though the cost of oil isn't rising, the fuel price in Idaho is through the roof (I have to buy premium and the locals are charging over 2 dollars a gallon). I've seen other areas that are not nearly as affected as we are in Idaho. Also, our crude is North American and the gasoline is piped up from Salt Lake to Boise. We rely on no overseas crude.
I went to Manchester, NH and relative prices were cheaper by almost 25 cents/gallon just last weekend. It's more populated and definitely has a demand higher than Idaho. What the heck gives?
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:01:11 PM PST
by
IYAS9YAS
(Go Fast, Turn Left!)
To: backhoe; joanie-f; snopercod; brityank
BTW, I too wish that we would get more agressive about digging and drilling for energy in our own hemisphere, while also building nuclear power packs for rural America.
There's a certain size of nuclear plant that works very well, and its the model used in our nuclear-powered ships, especially in the submarines.
We should use that model; I call it the Nuclear Power Pack.
Where more power is needed, then use two Nuclear Power Packs.
Instead of building those huge, outrageously-costly - to - maintain - leviathans that members of the board of a utility thought would make them rich.
Build the size that is easiest and least costly to maintain, because its parts match our best manufacturing capabilities, versus that mess of development costs that beset the giant nuclear plants, by the technical requirements' having forced us to develope all kinds of new tooling to make big parts.
Big parts that had flaws, quite often the result of "tool tip chatter" that lead to weaknesses, that led to constant, expensive repairs.
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:02:20 PM PST
by
First_Salute
(May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
To: backhoe
A major problem is that we no longer have a single totally US oil company.
Thanks for the links, as usual. You do a good job.
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:02:24 PM PST
by
Eva
To: backhoe
:-)
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:03:15 PM PST
by
First_Salute
(May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
To: AdamSelene235
Agree, and the confiscation your speak of is relentless. So many have become numb to the consequences of it, that we blindly accept it as acceptable.
To: IYAS9YAS
No significant gasoline pipelines that cross the Rockies, here in the Western part of the country, we're our own little micro-market for gasoline. Events that disrupt us over here have no effect on the rest of the country.
We've got the same thing going on in WA. I just hope this isn't an election issue, it's going to be tough for the President to deal with this, given his history with the oil business.
To: IYAS9YAS
What I don't get is, even though the cost of oil isn't rising, What planet are you living on? Oil has gone up 46% in the last year (in dollars, at least).
To: Made In The USA
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." --Thomas Jefferson
To: First_Salute
Appreciate the info... it isn't among the above links, but I've read articles here regarding the new generation of reactors which use much smaller fuel loads ( claimed to be safer ), standardized modular designs ( current reactors are one-of-a-kinds for every installation, driving up costs and complexity ) and modern control systems, which greatly enhance safety and efficiency.
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:21:46 PM PST
by
backhoe
(--30--)
To: Eva; First_Salute
Thanks for looking.
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:22:36 PM PST
by
backhoe
(--30--)
To: backhoe
It's already nearly $2.00 a gallon in the Phoenix area, $1.93 is the lowest I have seen it here. That is for regular unleaded, it is over $2.00 for premium
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:25:43 PM PST
by
DaiHuy
(MUST HAVE JUST BEEN BORN THAT WAY...)
To: AdamSelene235
How about posting a chart of M3 Money Stock (a) over thirty years; (b) on a logarithmic scale; (c) that starts at zero.
It would be much less prejudicial, much more accurate.
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:26:46 PM PST
by
Petronski
(Kerry knew...and did nothing. THAT....is weakness.)
To: Petronski
How about posting a chart of M3 Money Stock (a) over thirty years; Its available at Economagic's site...It won't store the image.
(b) on a logarithmic scale;
Ugh....This speaks volumes.
To summarize....The Feds lost their minds during the 1970's and then they went nuts again in 1995.
To: AdamSelene235
Ugh....This speaks volumes.About your ulterior motives.
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:35:47 PM PST
by
Petronski
(Kerry knew...and did nothing. THAT....is weakness.)
To: IYAS9YAS
What the heck gives?.
More refiners and denser distribution system in the East, I believe.
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:36:43 PM PST
by
BfloGuy
(The past is like a different country, they do things different there.)
To: Petronski
About your ulterior motives. Yes, you've discovered my secret desire not to pay $3 a gallon for gas.
Congrats.
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To: backhoe
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:52:05 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
(We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
To: backhoe
Suggestion.
Buy more fuel efficient cars, people.
If you want to buy a gas hog, then that's your choice, and you can pay the $3 price at the pump.
Me, I'm glad I don't have a vehicle like that.
If you want a fuel efficient car, check out a Honda hybrid, or even better, the 2004 Toyota Priuses. They are hard to get, but man are they nice. You can get close to 60 miles to the gallon in the city, and 50 on the highway, if I remember correctly. With gas prices this expensive, it's a relief.
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posted on
03/17/2004 3:53:48 PM PST
by
JTG
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