***Breaking*** Kerry Continued to Represent the VVAW after November, 1971

WinterSoldier.com ^ | 03/18/2004 | Interesting Times

[Interesting Times]

March 19, 2004 -- **BREAKING** WinterSoldier.com has obtained solid evidence that John Kerry continued to represent the VVAW well after the infamous November 12-15 1971 meeting at which that organization voted on whether to commit political assassinations. See our new "So when did John Kerry leave the VVAW, anyway?" links in the Documents, Film Clips, Audio and Cartoons section.

For example, the New York Times identified Kerry as "spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War" in this article on January 11, 1972. In fact, as late as April 22, 1972, Kerry was still being identified in press reports as a "leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War."

Senator Kerry says he quit the VVAW sometime before November 12, 1971.

Senator Kerry has some explaining to do.

[Interesting Times]

It isn't really activism, of course, but we like it...

[Jewels1091]

Get this to Rush, Hannity...even try and email it to all the papers...the columnist would be good too.

[keithtoo]

[VadeRetro]

I'm not sure that means too much. The NYT wasn't as involved in subversive activities then as it is now. They may not have known better.

[Mo1]

Over Here

[ServesURight]

OH YEAH BABY!!!

[ServesURight]

OH YEAH BABY!!!

[Enduring Freedom]

Are you kidding me!

Isn't this AFTER they talked of assassinating Senators who supported the war in Vietnam???

[Interesting Times]

Ping.

[Interesting Times]

Isn't this AFTER they talked of assassinating Senators who supported the war in Vietnam???

Why, yes... yes, I believe it was.

[blanknoone]

They still would have confirmed titles with Kerry. They wouldn't name him as the spokesman/leader without his and/or the organizations say so.

[TomGuy]

Tom Lipscomb of the NY Sun was on the Michael Reagan talk show this evening.

Tom says more on Kerry's early years is coming out in tomorrow's Sun.

Tom said he has 8 witnesses to Kerry's being in KC and at the 'kill the Senators' meeting.

[nutmeg]

ping

[Fiddlstix]

[Enduring Freedom]

While I always believed Socialists like Kerry had more in common with Terrorists than Americans...

...who knew Jacques Query also was a SUICIDE BOMBER!!!

This guy is hilarious!

Turn him over - he's done!

4.
MORE.
YEARS.

[Enduring Freedom]

ARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

(Kerry upon reading this article...)

[PhiKapMom]

GREAT POST! Way to go! Wonder what Kerry/McCain are going to have to say about this one?

[Piranha]

More flip flops...he led a group that wanted to kill Senators, and then he became one.

[NYC GOP Chick]

Tom said he has 8 witnesses to Kerry's being in KC and at the 'kill the Senators' meeting.

Given that the Ketchup Lady's Boy-Toy had presidential ambitions before he went through puberty, I have a hard time believing he would put himself in a position to be in the room when a subversive assassination plot was being discussed.

[knak]

great news!!!

[mware]

Could I have a clarification.

I thought that they decided instead of killing senators they were going to throw away their medals. Does it jive with the time frame.

[Fresh Wind]

You mean Kerry is a damn liar?

[Poohbah]

The gun seems to be emitting a whiff of cordite residue.

[woodyinscc]

I'm not sure that means too much. The NYT wasn't as involved in subversive activities then as it is now. They may not have known better.

You're kidding right?

[Samwise]

Mr. Kerry, do you have a comment?


"Are you a Republican?"
"Did you vote for George Bush?"
"I represented them until I no longer represented them."
"Let me make myself clear that it appears that it looks like this might be something that perhaps as I've said before might apparently address that issue maybe."
"Republican attack dog."
"It's none of your business."

[onyx]

WHOA!
Can we post that photo wintersoldier.com has on their page?

Thnaks for the ping Mo1.

[woodyinscc]

Kerry is going down too quick, he will never make it to the convention.!!

[Paul Atreides]

Well, Bubba had the same ambitions and was stupid enough to write that letter, explaining his loathing for the military. Chalk it up to arrogance.

[VadeRetro]

Couldn't resist the chance to stick one in "the paper of (no) record."

[atomicpossum]

If they can just make Kerry have to defend against this, even if he has to deny being involved with the plot, it will raise' the entire fact that the VVAW was considering assassinations to an incredibly high public profile/ A lot of people who know nothing about it will have the issue loom huge in their field of vision and suddenly ask themselves-- 'Gee, who is this Kerry guy anyway?"

[Yaelle]

More flip flops...he led a group that wanted to kill Senators, and then he became one.

He only wanted to kill a senator before he DIDN'T want to kill one.

First, he DIDN'T want to be a senator, and then he DID. I see a big problem with Kerry. He is too consistent in his flip flopping.

[doug from upland]

Oh my. Is sock puppet David Wade lying to us about this?

[rwfromkansas]

dang....even more stuff for me to report on now. Awesome.

[Semi Civil Servant]

Re: The VVAW's November, 1971, Vote to Assassinate Seven Senators.

Senator Kerry's comment:

"I actually voted for the resolution before I voted against it."

[rwfromkansas]

Very impressive.

This is truly a big story. I can count virtually every news value in this story and any journalist not covering this is doing so for only one reason: BIAS.

[nuconvert]

My question has been.........if he knew NOTHING about the assassination talk for 10 years after the incident, why is he STILL saying that he's PROUD to have belonged to that organization? Shouldn't he be ASHAMED?

[Interesting Times]

I thought that they decided instead of killing senators they were going to throw away their medals. Does it jive with the time frame.

Those were two different events.

Members of the VVAW threw their medals in Washington DC in April 1971 at Operation Dewey Canyon III, the protest at which where Kerry also told bogus tales of war crimes to the Senate. Scott Camil was evidently making noises about shooting people even then.

But at the November 1971 meeting in Kansas City, the VVAW leadership actually voted on a proposal to murder 6 or 7 U.S. Senators who supported the war. This appears not to have bothered John Kerry all that much...

[ConservativeMan55]

bump!

[John Thornton]

Has anyone had the stomach to check out DU to see how they are spinning this? Although they can't say it, I imagine most of them are only disappointed that Kerry didn't go through with the plot.

[Interesting Times]

Can we post that photo wintersoldier.com has on their page?

I don't see why not.

[edwin hubble]

>Re: The VVAW's November, 1971, Vote to Assassinate Seven Senators.

>>Senator Kerry's comment:
"I actually voted for the resolution before I voted against it."

That's really good. I think the line "I actually voted for the resolution before I voted against it." will have legs.
It's one for the ages, like "I didn't inhale".

[cyncooper]

For example, the New York Times identified Kerry as "spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War" in this article on January 11, 1972.

OK, read the linked NY Times article. It is referencing this speech Kerry gave at Dartmouth. There was a thread on it the other night:

In '72 speech, a different kind of Kerry. (** Criticized Nixon for seeking early return of POWs!!**)

EXCERPT:

In his 1972 speech, Kerry lashed at then-President Richard Nixon, claiming that he was personally responsible for over 130,000 Vietnam casualties a month, although Kerry also predicted reelection. He also criticized Nixon for trying to request the return of prisoners of war before the war ended. Ironically, Kerry has worked with Arizona Sen. John McCain on lingering Vietnam POW/MIA issues during their time in the Senate.

I want to read more about this speech.

[cyncooper]

I really appreciate the ping.

[onyx]

[Interesting Times]

It appears that link is broken...

[cyncooper]

Darn. Try this

[cyncooper]

See 46

[TomGuy]

In an earlier thread, comment was made about a Kerry interview with Dick Cavett (about 1972, IIRC). That interview tape has been unavailable. Based on the tone of the comments, that interview much be explosive.

Someone else posted that CSPAN is supposed to play that tape on Sunday.

FWIW (for what it's worth)

[DefCon]

try this...

[StriperSniper]

PING!