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Tucson Citizen ^ | 3/19/2004 | Gabriel Rico

Posted on 03/20/2004 6:01:25 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:38:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

In an unprecedented move along the U.S.-Mexico border, a convoy of 12 pickup trucks packed with suspected illegal immigrants barreled through the Tohono O'odham Nation and tried to run down approaching Border Patrol agents.

Agents stopped six of the vehicles Wednesday night and found 165 people stashed in the beds of the trucks, said Greg Maier, a spokesman for the U.S. Border Patrol's Tucson Sector.


(Excerpt) Read more at tucsoncitizen.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderpatrol; borderwar; humansmuggling; illegalaliens; immigrantlist
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To: PRND21
That would be wasting my time to provide you with links to threads you should have already taken the time to read. Something we've all done in the past for absolutely no return on our investment.

Why don't you do some work for a change? Provide a link to a credible source that refutes anything I've said.

41 posted on 03/22/2004 11:26:19 AM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
You said illegal immigration has doubled under Bush at post 26.
Source it or quit lying to extend your dishonest agenda.

Whine about me later. Source it or get off the pot.

42 posted on 03/22/2004 1:08:43 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21; 4Freedom; Marine Inspector
"Whine about me later. Source it or get off the pot."

Just who in the Hell made you god of FR.com? Why do you think you have the authority to tell someone to "Whine about me later. Source it or get off the pot."

What 4Freedom said is common knowledge to everyone who takes their blinders off.

New immigrants in the traditional major settlement states of New York, California, New Jersey, Florida, Texas and Illinois were running more than a quarter million immigrants higher each year than during the 1990s, the report said. It also said 19 states now receive more than double the rate of new immigrant settlements than before 2000.

Fiscal Year 2002 Apprehension Numbers

 

In fiscal year 2002 (October 2001 through September 2002) the Immigration & Naturalization Service apprehended 1,062,279 deportable aliens in the United States.

 

SEX AND AGE

 

STATUS AT ENTRY

 

LENGTH OF TIME IN THE UNITED STATES

 

EMPLOYMENT STATUS

 

SMUGGLING

 

FALSE CLAIMS

 

OTHER

 

COUNTRY OF CITIZENSHIP TABLE

Afghanistan 85 Albania 217 Algeria 68 Andorra 1
Angola 18 Antigua-Barbuda 36 Argentina 465 Armenia 70
Aruba 2 Australia 84 Austria 21 Azerbaijan 13
Bahamas 193 Bahrain 8 Bangladesh 129 Barbados 51
Belgium 24 Belize 160 Benin  6 Bermuda 12
Bhutan 2 Bolivia 103 Bossnia - Herzegovina 32 Botswana 4
Brazil 3,493 British Virgin Islands 14 Bulgaria 119 Burkina Faso 6
Burma 19 Burundi 3 Byelarus 24 Cameroon 23
Canada 3,493 Cape Verde 47 Cayman Islands 3 Central African Republic 4
Chad 8 Chile 139 China 1,753 Christmas Island 3
Colombia 1,748 Congo 33 Costa Rica 334 Croatia 17
Cuba 2,750 Cyprus 4 Czech Republic 135 Czechpslovakia 149
Denmark 12 Djibouti 5 Dominica 31 Dominican Republic 3,229
Ecuador 959 Egypt 408 El Salvador 9,209 Equatorial Guinea 1
Eritrea 8 Estonia 29 Ethiopia 84 Fiji 38
Finland 3 France 118 French Guiana 2 French Polynesia 6
Gabon 2 Gambia 73 Georgia 81 Germany 183
Ghana  129 Greece 60 Grenada  28  Guadeloupe 
Guatemala 8,344 Guinea 80 Guinea-Bissau 4 Guyana 222
Haiti 1,058 Honduras 11,295 Hong Kong 34 Hungary 122
Iceland 63 India 909 Indonesia 213 Iran 161
Iraq 110 Ireland 63 Israel 350 Italy 115
Ivory Coast 38 Jamaica 1,748 Japan 66 Jordan 504
Kampuchea 123 Kazakhstan 42 Kenya 166 Kuwait 36
Kyrgyzstan 7 Laos 217 Latvia 25 Lebanon 190
Liberia 71 Libya 13 Lithuania 86 Luxembourg 1
Macedonia 42 Madagascar 1 Malawi 20 Malaysia 125
Mali 38 Malta 1 Marshall Islands 9 Martinique 1
Mauritania 2 Mauritius 2 Mexico 994,720 Micronesia 42
Moldova 10 Mongolia 32 Morocco 210 Mozambique 1
Nambia 2 Nepal 12 Netherlands 65 Netherlands Antilles 13
New Zealand 59 Nicaragua 823 Niger 24 Nigeria 333
North Korea 6 Norway 8 Oman 8 Pacific Island Trust Territories 1
Pakistan 1,444  Palau 7 Palestine 20 Panama 123
Papya New Guinea 4 Paraguay 13  Peru 619 Philippines 720
Poland 415 Portugal 140 Puerto Rico 1 Qatar 7
Romania 114 Russia 298 Rwanda 3 Saudi Arabia 122
Senegal 53 Seychelles 1 Sierra Leone 54 Singapor 16
Slovakia 43 Slovenia 6 Somalia 84 South Africa 66
South Korea 527 Spain 61 Sri Lanka 207 St. Kitts-Nevis 23
St. Lucia 34 St. Vincent - Grenadines 55 Stateless 2 Sudan 89
Suriname 7 Sweden 26 Switzerland 14 Syria 122
Taiwan 48 Tajikistan 10 Tanzania 63 Thailand 149
Togo 16 Tonga 67 Trinidad and Tobago 314 Tunisia 156
Turkey 280 Turks and Caicos Islands 6 Uganda 21 Ukraine 156
United Arab Emirates 12 United Kingdom 427 Unknown 21 Uruguay 78
U.S. Virgin Islands 1 Uzbekistan 73 Venezuela 273 Vietnam 437
Western Sahara 4 Western Samoa 29 Yemen 121 Yugoslavia 94
Zaire 20 Zambia 19 Zimbabwe 44

 

Summery

The INS / Border Patrol apprehended 929,809 deportable aliens along the southwest border during FY 2002. From the above data, you can see that 1,012,429 of the total INS service wide apprehended aliens claimed to have illegally crossed the southwest border. On these two figures alone, we know that 82,620 illegal aliens slipped past the INS / Border Patrol.

The INS / Border Patrol estimates that they apprehend approximately 40% to 60% of the illegal aliens crossing into the United States, depending on who you speak with.

Independent immigration experts estimate that the INS / Border Patrol apprehends only 10% to 20% of the illegal aliens crossing into the United States.

From my personnel experience and knowledge, the independent experts estimates are more accurate.

For this presentation, I will use an apprehension ratio of 33%.

If the INS / Border Patrol has apprehended 929,809 illegal aliens along the south west border in fy 2002, then it is reasonable to assume that approximately 1,859,618 may have slipped pass the INS / Border Patrol.

This is an average of over 5,000 illegal aliens entering the United States undetected daily.

 

Here are some numbers to help put this into perspective:

US and Allied troops that invaded Normandy in 1944 = 250,000+

US troops that invaded Okinawa in 1945 = 550,000+

Illegal aliens that have invaded the United States in FY 2002 = 1.8 million +

 

On annual illegal immigration, the Center for Immigration Studies has extrapolated the latest Census data to show that Census data suggest that 700,000 to 800,000 new illegal aliens are settling each year. Now, far, far more than that enter illegally each year, but there is a lot of back and forth. The 700,000 to 800,000 represents illegals who truly settle in for at least a couple of year, and usually much, much longer.

Marine Inspector  posted on  2003-11-26   23:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace



43 posted on 03/23/2004 2:57:39 PM PST by B4Ranch (Most men and nations die, lying down.)
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To: B4Ranch
Just who in the Hell made you god of FR.com?

Requesting a source is unfair, eh?
btw, your link to Travis Bickel's info doesn't support 4freedom's outlandish statement.
We were not speaking of "certain states".

44 posted on 03/23/2004 3:39:20 PM PST by PRND21
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To: BlazingArizona
santa anna only took 3000 mexicans to the Alamo because he only had 3 mini vans.
45 posted on 03/23/2004 3:44:36 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: PRND21
Keep the blinders on and keep your head stuck as far up your unowhat as possible. Life will be easy for you.
46 posted on 03/23/2004 4:00:27 PM PST by B4Ranch (Most men and nations die, lying down.)
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To: B4Ranch
No source - no listen

And life is easy for me, I'm not a xenophobic nut that spouts untruths to help a faulty agenda.
Tell the truth and sourcing is easy.

47 posted on 03/23/2004 4:03:32 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21
Xenophobic?

If the desire to protect one's homeland from invasion by millions of low-life, unwashed, immigrant scum makes one a xenophobe, then I need to find the local chapter of Xenophobes Unanimous.

Or better yet, I'll find me a .223 Remington and a good, solid rest from which to fire. The real threat of having one's skull opened up by an unseen sniper would curb the immigration problem nicely, IMO.

You can work to support the undesirables of other nations if you wish, but I'm approaching a breaking point. It may be time to move to Mexico, since the most useless ctizens of that country seem to be coming here.

Though he is by far the lesser of two evils, I will have a difficult time voting for Bush due to his border-blindness. As I will with any future presidential candidate who refuses to take serious, effective steps to stop the flood.
48 posted on 03/23/2004 4:57:38 PM PST by NorthWoody (Hey, politicians! Stand up, be men, do your jobs and close the borders while there's still time.)
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To: NorthWoody
Snipers for misdemeanors, eh? You'll fit right in.
Speeders and jay walkers next?
49 posted on 03/23/2004 5:01:58 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21; B4Ranch; 4Freedom
Here is the source you requested.

As much as I hate to agree with PRND21, this is not Bush's fault and immigration, either legal or illegal, has not doubled under Bush. This is a culmination of 3 decades of bad immigration policy.

The Report covers the period between 1990 and 2000 and includes both legal and illegal immigration and there is no percentage breakdown between the two.

My numbers are strictly Border Patrol apprehensions along the US / Mexico border. Those numbers are down nearly 40% since Bush took office, not because of Bush's policies, but because of 9/11. In the year after 9/11, apprehensions deceased 36%. In the following two years, apprehensions have risen by 15% and from what I'm hearing from the Border Patrol today, it's up almost 100% from last year (thanks to Bush's Guest worker / amnesty proposal).

Federation for American Immigration Reform

Urban Bloat: How Immigration Fuels Population Growth

Urban Bloat Top Graphic

Executive Summary

Many of the nation's large cities are growing at an alarming rate. Immigration is the major contributor to those high growth rates-all of it in some cases-and to the many negative impacts that arise from rapidly increasing populations, such as school overcrowding, bankrupt public health care systems, the alarming number of children living in poverty, insufficient low-income housing, and deteriorating or inadequate infrastructure.

INTRODUCTION:

The United States experienced record levels of immigration in the 1990s. Fifteen million immigrants settled in the U.S. legally and illegally during the decade. Factor in their children and the generally higher fertility rates among immigrant groups, and this single factor accounts, conservatively, for more than half the astounding 35 million increase in U.S. population in the 1990s.

Immigration at these levels has a significant impact on a variety of pressing national issues, such as school overcrowding, bankrupt public health care systems, the alarming number of children living in poverty, and deteriorating or inadequate infrastructure. For cities and regions experiencing particularly high levels of immigration-related population growth, no serious discussion of these issues can be undertaken without reexamining immigration policy.

The Bird's-Eye View

Immigration increased at more than six times the rate of increase for the native-born population. Nationwide, population increased by 13 percent over the 1990s. However, when the components of that increase are analyzed, it can be seen that the immigrant population1 increased 57.4 percent (from 19.8 million to 31.1 million), while the native-born population increased 9.3 percent (from 229.1 million to 250.3 million).

This division of the increase in the population identifies immigration as being directly responsible for more than one-third (35%) of the country's population increase during the 1990s. The most recent estimate by the Census Bureau indicates that, since the start of the new century, immigration is accounting for almost half (44%) of the population increase,2 without taking into account the additional impact resulting from the children born to immigrants after they arrive.

If our immigration policies remain unchanged, Census Bureau projections show that immigration will account for two-thirds of the staggering 135 million additional residents projected to be added our population during the first half of this century. In that context, discussing the future of American cities without addressing the impact of immigration is an exercise in futility.

Large Metropolitan Areas: Immigrant Influx and Native-Born Exodus

In all large cities in the United States where the population is increasing, immigration is fueling the increase. Of metro areas with populations of more than one million in 2000 and an increase in population of over 20 percent between 1990-2000, the rate of increase of the immigrant population is generally more than three times greater than the rate of increase in non-immigrant newcomers.

Many of the cities with the largest influx of immigrants are not increasing especially rapidly in total population because there are so many native-born residents moving out of those cities. That exodus of native-born residents dampens the overall net change. In five of those metropolitan areas,3 i.e., those in which the native-born population was less in 2000 than in 1990 (see Table 1), immigration accounted for all of the metropolitan area's population increase between 1990-2000, and then some. In all of the others, immigration accounted directly for more than half of the metropolitan area's population increase.4

The problems resulting from the demographic trends in those large immigrant-settlement cities relate to the population increase itself (immigration added more than 100,000 residents in each of these cities during the 1990s) and to the changing characteristics of the population, as immigrants displace or replace native-born residents. Those localities have acute problems associated with the influx of immigrants such as school overcrowding, insufficient low-income housing, and the strains on public education from educating large numbers of non-English-speaking children.

Evidence of this problem may be seen in looking at 2000 Census data for the nation's two largest concentrations of immigrants: Los Angeles and New York City. As shown in Table 2 below, both of these metropolitan areas have elevated levels of children in families with income below the poverty level, who live in high-poverty neighborhoods, who are high school dropouts, and who have difficulty communicating in English.

Other examples of chronic immigration-related problems in these major cities include overcrowded housing, school crowding, and budgetary problems due to increasing outlays for services at the same time that tax collections stagnate in part because many of these new workers are earning subsistence wages and/or working off the books.

Los Angeles County has the highest rate of severe crowded housing in the United States, at 15 percent, and experts say that the problem is driven by mass numbers of immigrants working for subsistence wages.5 So many people living in single-family homes strains services such as trash collection, schools, and public safety.

New York City's housing supply has not kept pace with its surging population, creating high prices, overcrowding, and homelessness.6 Bronx County has the third highest rate of severely crowded housing in the nation.7 Flushing's housing shortage is so severe that there is simply no more living space; houses and apartments are being subdivided, and basements, attics, and garages are all being rented out.8 And New York's schools are bursting with over-capacity enrollments, a trend that the school chancellor says is "almost exclusively driven by immigration."9 Some classes are even being held in school ticket booths and custodial closets.10

Other cities in this list are suffering as well: Thirty-seven of Detroit's 88 suburban school districts had double-digit enrollment growth between 1992 and 2000.11 Apartments in Bergen are among the least affordable in the U.S., according to the National Low Income Housing Coalition. To afford the estimated $1,050 rent on a typical two-bedroom apartment in Bergen, a worker needs to earn an hourly wage of $20.19, almost quadruple the minimum wage of $5.15.12 In Boston, congestion costs each motorist three days and $1,255 each year.13 In Chicago, rush hour now lasts almost eight hours a day,14 and affordable housing shortages are becoming a crisis.15

Immigrant and Native-Born Influx

Where the most dramatically increased problems of crowding, urban sprawl, and related issues arise is in cities where there is both an influx of immigrants and of native-born residents. Those two sources of population increase combined with natural change (involving the birth rate) result in population growth rates that strain the ability of city planners to manage the impact.

The Portland-Vancouver metropolitan area offers an example of the challenges in dealing with this high-impact population growth. Portland's battle against sprawl is well known. But with a 28 percent increase in population during the 1990s, Portland, once a model for limiting urban growth, has been forced to repeatedly expand its urban boundary. Growth has led to traffic congestion, longer commutes, and inflated home prices (which increased 44 percent in the 1990s16). In December 2002, Portland's regional government agreed to the largest expansion of allowable development in its history-18,600 acres-simply to accommodate population growth anticipated over the next 20 years.17 In the Portland school districts, as many as two out of three new students are immigrants.18

What is strikingly evident in these bursting cities is that the rate of increase in immigrant settlement is consistently much greater than the rate of increase from domestic migration into the metropolitan area. This pattern of immigration-led population growth may be seen in Table 3. The criteria for selecting these metropolitan areas were that they had populations of more than one million in 2000 and had an increase in population of over 20 percent between 1990-2000. All U.S. metropolitan areas that met these two criteria are included in the table.19

Even in Las Vegas, the nation's fastest growing large metropolitan area, the high rate of increase in the native-born population (131%) is outstripped by the even higher rate of increase in the foreign-born population (248%). In every other of these metropolitan areas the rate of increase of the immigrant population is more than three times greater than the rate of increase in native-born newcomers.

What symptoms accompany this immigration-inflated population growth? Las Vegas' school enrollment doubled during the 1990s. Clark County school district (part of the Las Vegas metro area) projects that, given the current trend, it will add 10,000 to 15,000 students every year.20,21 Officials say that unless Salt Lake City acts to limit sprawl and curb auto emissions, the city could soon be "obscured by a soup of pollutants."22 In the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill metro area, one in every ten students, or 3,000 students in Durham, attend class in mobile trailers, many of which are decades old and dilapidated.23 Chapel Hill expects its high schools to reach 126 percent of their capacity in the next three years.24

Immigration's Impact on Mid-Sized Metropolitan Areas

In mid-sized cities with population growth higher than 20 percent between 1990-2000, new immigrant residents accounted for portions ranging from one-fifth to one-third of the increase.

The impact of rapidly increasing immigrant populations is not limited to the largest metropolitan areas. The data on cities of between half a million and one million residents show a similar pattern of a rapidly growing immigrant population outstripping change in the native-born population (see Table 4). Each of the cities in this table also had population growth rates in excess of 20 percent between 1990-2000.25

Despite the fact that each of these smaller metropolitan areas was receiving an influx of native-born newcomers in addition to immigrant settlers, the new foreign-born residents nevertheless represented a significant share of the overall population increase. The share of the increase directly attributable to immigration was more than one-third in McAllen-Edinburgh-Mission (40%), Bakersfield (39%), and Fresno (37%). The share was more than one-fifth of the overall population increase in Sarasota-Bradenton (29%), Tucson (23%), and Albuquerque (22%).

Immigration's Impact on Smaller Metropolitan Areas

In every smaller metro area that increased by more than 20 percent between 1990-2000, the rate of increase from net immigrant settlement exceeded the increase from net domestic in-migration.

The rate of population increase in the immigrant population of these cities ranged from about twice as much as the increase in the native-born population up to more than 15 times as much.

A look at similar data for cities with population size between a quarter of a million residents and half a million residents reveals the same pattern. Once again, the municipalities selected for examination are all of those that increased in size by more than 20 percent between 1990-2000 (see Table 5).26

The rate of increase from net immigrant settlement exceeded the increase from net domestic in-migration in every one of these 16 smaller metropolitan areas. The rate of population increase in the immigrant population of these cities ranged from about twice as much as the increase in the native-born population (Daytona Beach) up to more than 15 times as much (Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers metro area).

The share of the overall population increase that was directly attributable to the influx of immigrants was more than one-third in Modesto (38%), Brownsville-Harlingen (37%), and Salem (34%). The amount of change from immigration was more than one-fifth in another five of the metropolitan areas: Naples (30%), Reno (29%), Boulder-Longmont (22%), Fort Myers-Cape Coral (22%), and Fort Pierce-Port St. Lucie (21%).

Recommendations: Curtailing the Surge in Immigration

The number of people coming to our country is based on a discretionary policy. The flow of legal immigrants, refugees, and even illegal entrants may be changed by law and by the actions or inaction of the government.

Economic, social, and environmental policy would benefit greatly from moderating mass immigration. Though not entirely responsible for the three most troublesome phenomena plaguing America's large cities-the growing disparity between rich and poor, collapsing social institutions, and urban sprawl and congestion-none of these issues can be adequately addressed while large numbers of new immigrants, many lacking education and skills, pour in.

The bulk of the responsibility for addressing immigration's impact on America's cities rests with the federal government. Washington's failure to establish clearly definable objectives for U.S. immigration policy, coupled with its unwillingness to enforce the rules it passes- often with great fanfare-lies at the core of the issue. But America's cities, and the people who run them, are not entirely innocent bystanders. They have shown themselves more than willing to pander to narrow economic interests and ethnic voting blocs, in an effort to reap campaign dollars and votes, while sacrificing both the immediate and long-term interests of their cities.

Once the role of immigration in causing our urban areas to be bursting at the seams is recognized, the need to pursue the following agenda is clear:

Reduce overall immigration levels. Incrementally, the federal government should reduce overall legal immigration levels to the U.S. to somewhere between a quarter and a third of current levels, while a vigorous, coordinated effort is made to deter illegal immigration.

Increase federal reimbursement for immigration-related costs. The federal government, which has ultimate responsibility for making and enforcing immigration laws, should assume the bulk of the cost burden associated with this policy, thereby relieving state and local governments of what amounts to an enormous unfunded federal mandate.

Make federal reimbursement contingent on local policies and efforts. Local governments that choose to offer costly benefits to immigrants, above and beyond those required by federal policy and common decency, must be prepared to pay those costs themselves. Local politicians, seeking to appeal to blocs of new voters, should not expect the costs to be borne by taxpayers throughout the rest of the country.

Immigration enforcement must include federal-local cooperation. Local governments cannot reasonably complain about the cost and impact of illegal immigration, while they stand on the sideline, or worse, inhibit, the enforcement of immigration laws. Any local government refusing to cooperate in enforcing laws against illegal immigration should forfeit federal reimbursement for the costs associated with illegal immigration.

CONCLUSION

The data indicate where we are and where we are headed. How we choose to react to it is up to us. The consequences of our action or inaction will determine whether America's cities will be centers of vibrant culture, economic advancement, and social harmony, or decaying cores of despair.

Notes

  1. The terms "immigrant population" and "foreign-born population" are used interchangeably in this study, inasmuch as the difference between the populations they refer to is negligible.
  2. The Census Bureau estimate based on the 2002 Current Population Survey indicates that since 2000, the U.S. population had increased by 3.2 million, with 1.4 million of that increase due to net international migration.
  3. Metropolitan areas, rather than the core cities, are used throughout this study to eliminate the effects of population shifts between the core city and its suburban areas. Thereby, the movement of native-born residents out of the city proper to the suburbs because of rising housing costs, congested conditions, or deteriorating schools is nullified.
  4. The share of overall population increase due to immigrant settlement in those eight metropolitan areas was: San Francisco (89%), Nassau (85%), Los Angeles (85%), Middlesex (78%), Oakland (76%), Chicago (63%), Philadelphia (59%), and Detroit (59%).
  5. Haya El Nasser, "U.S. Neighborhoods Grow More Crowded," USA Today, July 2, 2002.
  6. Bruce Lambert, "120 Groups Join to Push $10 Billion Housing Plan," New York Times, June 1, 2001.
  7. Haya El Nasser, op.cit.
  8. Michele Ingrassia, "The Big Squeeze; New York Has too Many People, Not Enough Room," Daily News, August 5, 2001.
  9. Charisse Jones, "New-Timers' Lives Reviving Old Cities," USA Today, April 20, 2001.
  10. Karen Robinson, "Growth Puts School District, Planners in a Bind," Buffalo News, October 12, 2001.
  11. "Student Population Booming in Detroit-Area Districts," Associated Press, April 30, 2001.
  12. "Rental Housing Too Costly for Many in New Jersey," The Record, September 19, 2002.
  13. Karen E. Crummy, "Time for a Tailgate Party: Gridlocked Hub Makes Top 10," Boston Herald, June 21, 2002.
  14. Robert McCoppin, "You Wasted $1,235 and 67 Hours Sitting in Traffic, Study Says," Chicago Daily Herald, June 24, 2002.
  15. Kate N. Grossman, "Affordable Housing Pinch Also Hits Suburbs," Chicago Sun-Times, July 22, 2002.
  16. Tara Burghart, "Urban Planning, Oregon-Style, Gets Strong Support, Criticism," Associated Press, May 31, 2001.
  17. Laura Oppenheimer, "Damascus Waits to See How Growth Wll Proceed," Oregonian, March 31, 2003.
  18. Tracy Jan, "As Enrollment at Oregon Schools Declines, Local Districts Buck Trend," Oregonian, October 31, 2002.
  19. There were an additional nine metropolitan areas with populations over 1,000,000 residents in which the population growth rate during the 1990s exceeded 15 percent-which approximates a rate for population doubling in 47 years. They were: Greensboro-Winston-Salem-High Point (19%), Seattle-Bellevue-Everett (19%), Orange County MSA (18%), Minneapolis-St. Paul (17%), Washington, D.C. (17%), Indianapolis (16%), Miami (16%), Grand Rapids-Muskegon (16%), and Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater (16%).
  20. Anjetta McQueen, "A Crowded Century Ahead," Associated Press, August 25, 2001.
  21. Genaro C. Armas, "Baby Boomers' Kids, Immigrants to Flood Nation's High Schools," Associated Press, May 24, 2001.
  22. Timothy Egan, "Urban Sprawl Strains Western States," New York Times, December 29, 2001.
  23. Rebecca E. Eden, "Leaders Meet on School Crowding," Herald-Sun, May 1, 2001.
  24. Neil Offen, "City High Schools Going Mobile," Chapel Hill Herald, October 6, 2002.
  25. All U.S. cities that met the population size and rate of population increase are included in the table. There were an additional seven metropolitan areas with population between 500,000 and 1,000,000 residents in which the population growth rate during the 1990s exceeded 15 percent-which approximates a rate for population doubling in 47 years. They were: Tacoma (20%), Ann Arbor (18%), Knoxville (17%), Stockton-Lodi (17%), Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson (16%), Richmond-Petersburg (15%), and Vallejo-Fairfield-Napa (15%).
  26. There were an additional sixteen metropolitan areas with population between 250,000 and 500,000 residents in which the population growth rate during the 1990s exceeded 15 percent-which approximates a rate for population doubling in 47 years. They were: Pensacola (20%), Lakeland-Winter Haven (19%), Melbourne-Titusville-Palm Bay (19%), Santa Rosa (18%), Visalia-Tulare-Porterville (18%), Lincoln (17%), Hickory-Morganton (17%), Huntsville (17%), Biloxi-Gulfport-Pascagoula (17%), Madison (16%), Des Moines (16%), Spokane (16%), Newburg, NY (15%), Galveston-Texas City (15%), Anchorage (15%), and Augusta-Aiken (15%).

50 posted on 03/23/2004 6:19:28 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Either we will defeat terrorism, or terrorism will defeat us.)
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To: Marine Inspector
Good post. I hope the situation continues to improve.
51 posted on 03/23/2004 10:47:41 PM PST by PRND21
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To: tscislaw
165 divided by 6 = 27.5 people per truck. Whoa!

Sounds about right. What's really neat is when one of these truckloads gets on a high speed chase with the cops, and rolls. Then, the ambulance services, helicopters, and trauma centers get to collect, transport, and treat the survivors, and eat the entire cost. The Feds, who are charged with protecting the borders, say "Screw you, eat it, and live with it."

52 posted on 03/23/2004 11:09:06 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: PRND21; Marine Inspector
MI, please re-read my post #26 and then PRND21's mis-characterization of what I said, in his post #42, in one of his typically dishonest attempts to win an argument.

He does this all the time.

As I said, border crossings by illegal aliens each year have almost doubled under Bush. You yourself said that apprehensions are up 100% and that Border Patrol Agents suspect they only catch 1 in 5.

Bush's decision to order our National Guard to stand down as well as his choices to head our Dept. of Immigration and his announcement of an amnesty, disquised as a guest worker program, are directly responsible.

Bush has done nothing to secure our borders. Illegal crossings are way up.

53 posted on 03/27/2004 8:56:28 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: PRND21; Marine Inspector
"Good post. I hope the situation continues to improve."

I didn't see one damn situation that showed improvement in MI's post, PRND21.

Apprehensions went down 40% the year after 9/11, because the National Guard was on our borders. Then apprehensions rose by 15% and now they're up 100% over that!

What in the hell are you talking about?

LOL!

54 posted on 03/27/2004 9:10:31 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
If I mis-characterized your quote I apologize. I see you did say "almost".
55 posted on 03/27/2004 10:44:12 PM PST by PRND21
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To: 4Freedom
Apprehensions went down 40% the year after 9/11, because the National Guard was on our borders.

Maybe. I'd say the greater influence was economic.
Jobs Jobs Jobs

56 posted on 03/27/2004 10:45:53 PM PST by PRND21
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To: 4Freedom; PRND21
Apprehensions went down 40% the year after 9/11, because the National Guard was on our borders.

Sorry, but no.

Apprehensions are strictly a Border Patrol stat.

The National Guard did not assist the Border Patrol. They were at the ports of entries helping US Customs search cars and nothing more.

57 posted on 03/27/2004 11:02:21 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Either we will defeat terrorism, or terrorism will defeat us.)
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To: 4Freedom; PRND21
As I said, border crossings by illegal aliens each year have almost doubled under Bush.

They have not. In his first 9 months they went up approximately 10%. In both FY 2001 and FY 2002, they dropped 25% each year. In FY 2003, they were steady. Overall, apprehensions have dropped about 40% since Bush took office. This has nothing to do with Bush or any policies, it has to do with 9/11 and fear. The fear is ebbing and you will see an increase in the next few years.

You yourself said that apprehensions are up 100% and that Border Patrol Agents suspect they only catch 1 in 5.

The BP is reporting that January's apps were up about 100% from the preceding January. The 100% increase is not an overall increase, just a comparison between Jan 04 and Jan 03. As it was, January's apprehensions were only up about 3%.

February’s were up approximately 15% from last February’s.

58 posted on 03/27/2004 11:09:41 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Either we will defeat terrorism, or terrorism will defeat us.)
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To: Marine Inspector
The National Guard was assisting the Border Patrol on the borders prior to 9/11. When Bush publicized using the National Guard at all the checkpoints everyone, including the smugglers and illegal aliens, believed that they would be in addition to the National Guard already on the borders.

Everyone wrongly assumed that Bush would be serious about the security of our Nation's borders. That 40% reduction in apprehensions had everything to do with that false assumption.

It took everyone time to realize that Bush and Rove were merely moving the Guard around. I remember the outraged posts about it at the time.

59 posted on 03/28/2004 5:29:21 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: 4Freedom
The National Guard was assisting the Border Patrol on the borders prior to 9/11.

Yes, in small groups and they were ineffective. I know several BP agents that had the displeasure of being assigned to work with the Guard.

When Bush put the Guard on border, after 9/11, they were all assigned to the ports of entry, not to the BP and they had nothing to do with the decrease in apprehensions.

60 posted on 03/28/2004 5:48:54 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Either we will defeat terrorism, or terrorism will defeat us.)
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