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Federal Police Ordered D.C. Chapter Silenced Outside Democrat Fundraiser 3/25/04
D.C. Chapter ^ | Thursday, March 25, 2004 | Kristinn

Posted on 03/25/2004 10:06:57 PM PST by kristinn

Honor Roll for tonight: Staytrue, BillF, Angelwood, tgslTakoma, GunsareOK, BufordP, Trueblackman, sauropod and kristinn.

An officer with the Federal Protective Service ordered the D.C. Chapter of Free Republic to stop addressing Democrats waiting across the street to enter the Democratic Party's Unity Dinner in Washington, D.C. tonight.

Members of the D.C. Chapter had been peaceably assembled for two hours exercising their First Amendment rights with protest signs and their unaided voices. Apparently the litany of Democrat 'sins' grew too much for this officer to bear so he walked across the street to give a cease and desist order to the FReepers.

I had arrived somewhat late, getting there around 6:15 p.m. Most of the others had been there for at least an hour. I took the Metro there and got out in back of the National Building Museum where the fundraiser was being held. Secret Service agents and officers were everywhere. The rear entrance was where their protectees would be brought. I was told that former President Jimmy Carter had already arrived. I stuck around there for a few minutes hoping Bill and Hillary Clinton, John Kerry or Al Gore might pull up. I spoke with a young Dean supporter for awhile as I waited. There were dozens of Deaniacs milling about holding Dean for President signs. No one showed up so I went around the front to join the rest of the chapter.

I paused at the edge of the crowd waiting to go through the security checkpoint to get in the building and checked how well our signs could be read from across the street in front of the GSA Building where we were set up.

They could be read very easily--especially the one that said, "IF OSAMA WAS A PIECE OF ASS, CLINTON WOULD HAVE NAILED HIM." The one that said, "I'M NOT FONDA HANOI JOHN KERRY," was also quite visible.

I joined the others who had been lightheartedly razzing the crowd with things like, "Dean supporters go to the west side of the building for a Howard Dean scream contest!"

Sauropod and tgslTakoma were working the crowd over, but I'll have to let them report what they were saying.

Angelwood had her Bill Clinton "Crime Wave" poster from YAF. Staytrue made a great John Kerry 'Waffles' sign. BillF was videotaping some of the action when not holding one of the several dozen signs we had brought. I'm not sure who held what other signs, but one of them said, "CLINTON-GORE PARDONED TERRORISTS, GEORGE BUSH KILLS THEM."

After I got settled in, I raised my voice to the Democrats across the street. I asked them many questions, starting with, "How can you nominate a man who took part in a debate about whether to assassinate U.S. senators? Thank God, he voted no, but he didn't tell anyone his group was talking about doing it. When asked about it later he lied and said he wasn't there. When confronted with evidence he was there he now says it wasn't a big deal, just a historical footnote."

I then asked them how they could nominate a man who went to Paris, met with the North Vietnamese and signed on to their peace plan against his brothers in arms still fighting.

I asked how they could nominate a man who went to Congress and lobbied in favor of the North Vietnamese.

"Where is your patriotism, Democrats?" I loudly asked, "Where the hell did it go?"

I then turned to the subject of the 9/11 commission hearings. I mentioned how they spoke about the "urgency" of the terrorist threat. I reminded them of Bill Clinton's record on national security. How the first time Monica Lewinsky did her thing on him, he was on the phone with a congressman who was concerned about the safety of our troops headed to Bosnia. I reminded them that Monica had sense enough to stop, but that Bill Clinton urged her to continue while he was on the phone with the congressman. "That was Bill Clinton's urgency," I told them.

I also brought up other remembrances of Bill Clinton's time in office. Such as Bill having phone sex with Monica on an unsecured phone line, knowing and not caring that he could be taped and subjected to blackmail by a foreign power.

Just to prove it wasn't all about sex, I brought up the Chinese money Bill took and the contributions from Loral and Hughes that greased his betrayal of our national security.

I then pointed out to the crowd of Democrats that in 1993 hardly anyone had heard of Al Qaeda, and that after eight years of Bill Clinton's presidency they were able to attack us here in the United States.

I noted Tom Daschle's concern for Richard Clarke and asked where his concern was for Clinton-era whistleblowers like Linda Tripp, Gary Aldrich and Notra Trulock.

I saw a woman in a bright blue outfit get out of a car across the street with a group of people and called out a friendly warning to her, "Be careful around Bill Clinton in that blue dress, he might have a flashback!"

One of our group brought up the Democrats' obstruction of President Bush's judicial nominees, so I spoke about how they had mistreated Miguel Estrada. I pointed out how the Democrats blocked a Hispanic man because they were afraid he would be the first Hispanic nominated to the Supreme Court. I told them they were "keeping the brown man down because he was the "wrong kind of brown man."

Senator Ted Kennedy came waddling out of the fundraiser accompanied by a staffer and went to his car which was waiting close to where we were standing. Everyone had something to say to Teddy. He waved us off and hustled into the passenger seat of the car. I asked him how Mary Jo Kopechne was doing.

As he was driven away, I called out to the crowd that Ted Kennedy had left Mary Jo to die underwater, left her there for ten hours while he tried to save his political career. "He did it, aren't you proud of him?" I asked, "He's your senator."

I then asked if their Klansman senator, Robert Byrd, was there. I reminded them that Byrd had been a Grand Kleagle in the Klan. I told them that even in the 21st century, Byrd was still using the 'n' word. I also reminded them that Byrd was the only senator to vote against both black Supreme Court nominees.

It was at this point that the police officer approached me. I looked hard at his uniform to see if he was actually a policeman or a just a security guard because he had on a sweater like the guards wear. I saw he had a badge that said Federal Protective Service--he was a cop, a federal cop.

His first words to me were, "There's a whole lot of love here tonight." I just looked at him and thought, "Oh geez, here it comes."

BillF stepped up to listen in and the cop tried to get him to back off, asking him, "Does this conversation concern you?" BillF said it did and stayed there.

The cop was right in my face and told me I had to stop speaking to the crowd across the street. I argued back saying I wasn't using a bull horn, just my voice and that we had done this for years at the White House and elsewhere without incident.

The cop wouldn't hear it and told me I had to shut up because I might provoke an incident. I told him no one from across the street had come over to argue with us for the two hours we had been here. I told him this was a First Amendment issue. He denied that.

He mentioned the woman in the blue dress I had warned about Bill Clinton, saying she talked about coming over to confront us. I told him she hadn't and no one else had. He said it didn't matter.

He told us if we said anything else, he would move us down the street and around the corner.

I told him, "Fine, you're the law and you own this street. We'll do what you say." I figured one cop with a bad attitude over what we were doing was not worth going to jail for.

So we kept quiet, but Angelwood made a new sign that said, "WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BECOME VIOLENT."

Trueblackman came to the rescue and lightened the mood with a sign of his own that mocked John Kerry's statement that he wanted to be 'America's second black President' after Bill Clinton.

Trueblackman's sign said "I WANT TO BE AMERICA'S 44TH WHITE PRESIDENT."

That was a controversial sign. Folks either laughed or scowled when they saw him holding it. A Washington Post photographer came over and took several pictures of Trueblackman with his sign.

A while later, an older white man, who looked like a politician but we can't place his face, came out to get in his chauffer driven sedan. He called out to us, "Vote Kerry."

Trueblackman told him, "I'm voting for Bush."

This set the white man off. He sneered at Trueblackman, "What has George Bush ever done for you?" The racist way that sounded stunned us all, I think. I don't remember what if anything, any of us said in response to that.

Baghdad Jim McDermott came out after that. Trueblackman asked him a question about Iraq that he didn't answer.

Sen. Tom Harkin came out to leave, also. As he walked with a staffer to his waiting car, I violated the cop's order and shouted out to him, "Hey Tom, are you proud that John Kerry voted against assassinating U.S. senators? Are you proud Kerry went to Paris and took the side of the North Vietnamese? Are you proud Kerry lobbied Congress in favor of the North Vietnamese?" Harkin turned around to listen for a few seconds before he got in his car, but I didn't hear a reply.

As he drove off I asked, "When is the Democrat Party going to nominate a patriotic American for President?"

The cop who had ordered me to be quiet came down the steps of the building across the street to the curb and stopped. I was prepared to tell him that no order of his would stop me from exercising my First Amendment right to criticize a U.S. senator.

But instead of crossing the street to us, he turned and walked down the street to his patrol car. He started it up and drove off into the night.

We wrapped it up at 8 p.m. and most of us went for dinner downtown. It should be noted that a few Ralph Nader supporters stood near us holding a banner that said, "DEBATE NADER."

Also, a bunch of LaRouchies were leafletting cars while other LaRouchies repeatedly drove around the block with 'Blues Brothers' speakers on the roof of their car blaring Lyndon LaRouche speeches.

Everyone in the D.C. Chapter did great tonight. I hope they add their experiences on this thread, as this write up ended up being mostly about my experience there.

At least we didn't get arrested.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aar; activismrocks; dcchapter; democratunitydinner; dud; notanetworkchapter
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EAGLES UP!!!
1 posted on 03/25/2004 10:06:57 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn; JohnHuang2; mhking
This deserves super-pings
2 posted on 03/25/2004 10:12:45 PM PST by GeronL (I am here for the duration! /kidding)
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To: kristinn
Y'all rock. Thanks for being there to say what a lot of us would have liked to have been there to say ourselves, in person.
3 posted on 03/25/2004 10:13:32 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Democrats are the real asses of evil.)
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To: kristinn
Bravo and bump!
4 posted on 03/25/2004 10:14:27 PM PST by socal_parrot
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To: kristinn
GREAT REPORT! Kudos to all FreeRepublic activists. The DC Chapter is OUTSTANDING!
5 posted on 03/25/2004 10:17:30 PM PST by PGalt
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To: kristinn
I wonder if that federal officer would have had the same attitude if he had been the one called a SOB by Kerry on the ski slope.
6 posted on 03/25/2004 10:18:08 PM PST by CedarDave (Election 2004: When Democrats attack, it's campaigning; when Republicans campaign, it's attacking.)
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To: kristinn
BTTT
7 posted on 03/25/2004 10:18:21 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: kristinn
LOL... Great Job!!!

Blessings to all of you at the scene of the "crime". ;-)



8 posted on 03/25/2004 10:18:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Our Troops! ... Thrash the demRats in November!!! ... Beat BoXer!!!)
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To: staytrue; BillF; Angelwood; tgslTakoma; GunsareOK; BufordP; Trueblackman; sauropod; kristinn
Thank You. Thats a great read.
9 posted on 03/25/2004 10:18:55 PM PST by GeronL (I am here for the duration! /kidding)
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To: Angelwood
"WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BECOME VIOLENT."

LOL!!

10 posted on 03/25/2004 10:19:57 PM PST by GeronL (I am here for the duration! /kidding)
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To: Trueblackman
Trueblackman's sign said "I WANT TO BE AMERICA'S 44TH WHITE PRESIDENT."

Makes as much sense as what Clinton and Kerry say.

11 posted on 03/25/2004 10:20:51 PM PST by GeronL (I am here for the duration! /kidding)
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To: GeronL
Thanks. I've got to go to bed so I apologize for posting and running. There should be some pictures up tomorrow some time.
12 posted on 03/25/2004 10:22:41 PM PST by kristinn
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To: GeronL; xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ...

13 posted on 03/25/2004 10:24:34 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: kristinn
Great work and great report (as usual).
14 posted on 03/25/2004 10:24:58 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: kristinn
Thanks for posting, friend.
15 posted on 03/25/2004 10:25:19 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: kristinn
Hoo Yah! Way to get 'em!
16 posted on 03/25/2004 10:25:22 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: kristinn
I would have told the cop, sure I'll be quite, but first you must give me a written order, signed by you, and I like to see you ID too to confirm it. He could deny till the end of time a verbal order but having to write it down would have probably caused him to back off.
17 posted on 03/25/2004 10:28:25 PM PST by Nateman (Socialism first, cancer second.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Bumpus
18 posted on 03/25/2004 10:29:40 PM PST by GeronL (I am here for the duration! /kidding)
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To: GeronL
G'evening, amigo
19 posted on 03/25/2004 10:30:22 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
I thought it was morning.. =o)

Good afternoon to you too.

20 posted on 03/25/2004 10:31:20 PM PST by GeronL (I am here for the duration! /kidding)
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To: kristinn
You "done" good!
21 posted on 03/25/2004 10:33:28 PM PST by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Geologist, Pharmacist (REFUSE TO ATTEND A GUNFIGHT WITH A CAL. LESS THAN FORTY))
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To: kristinn
Fantastic!

You all are absolutely phenomenal!!!

We'll see if the cop will tell the demonstrators to shut up, who plan to demonstrate in front of the Republican Convention.
22 posted on 03/25/2004 10:33:53 PM PST by FairOpinion (Zell Miller (D):"Im on George Bushs side because hes on the side of the American people.")
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To: kristinn
Kristinn, YOU ARE AWESOME, (and BIG KUDOS to all of you who were there tonight, our freedom fighters!!!)
HI from the left coast (sniff), one small voice in the wilderness, LOL.
23 posted on 03/25/2004 10:35:02 PM PST by oreolady (Wanted: new tag line)
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To: kristinn
You're supposed to restrain your First Amendment right so the lefties don't get their kerries in a snit?

They've no similar officer-ordered obligation to refrain from lashing out when a free citizen is expressing their opinion?

Geez, even Teddy Kennedy appears to have gotten it on this one, according to your terrific report.

Where was this cop when Just For Kerry and his mob were marching on the Capitol?

24 posted on 03/25/2004 10:35:36 PM PST by Chummy (Republican Attack Squad HQ: "crooked, lying, you know, an enemy to liberals"(tm))
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To: kristinn
Bump.
25 posted on 03/25/2004 10:36:05 PM PST by wolicy_ponk (If con is the opposite of pro, is congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: kristinn
Thanks Kristinn,Great report and thanks to everyone that was there.fatima-put your body where your mouth is.
26 posted on 03/25/2004 10:38:03 PM PST by fatima (My Granddaughter is in Iraq-We unite with all our troops and send our love-)
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To: Nateman; kristinn
Unfortunately, disobeying a federal officer's order can get you in big trouble. One landowner has been denied bail after the feds arrested him for allegedly interfering with them as they confiscated his cattle.

JUDGE KEEPS RANCHER IN JAIL (Cattle Seized By Forest Service)

27 posted on 03/25/2004 10:39:40 PM PST by CedarDave (Election 2004: When Democrats attack, it's campaigning; when Republicans campaign, it's attacking.)
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To: kristinn
After I got settled in, I raised my voice to the Democrats across the street. I asked them many questions, starting with, "How can you nominate a man who took part in a debate about whether to assassinate U.S. senators? Thank God, he voted no, but he didn't tell anyone his group was talking about doing it. When asked about it later he lied and said he wasn't there. When confronted with evidence he was there he now says it wasn't a big deal, just a historical footnote."

Wow, good job.

Any reactions? Did you get the impression they knew what you were talking about?


28 posted on 03/25/2004 10:40:09 PM PST by Sabertooth (< /Kerry>)
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To: kristinn
kristinn ~~~ I nominate you for "Eighth Wonder of the Modern World."

Not only were you superb this evening, based on your account, but your efforts yesterday at the hearing deserve a standing O.

God bless you!

29 posted on 03/25/2004 10:42:54 PM PST by kayak (The terrorists ... are offended by our existence as free nations. ~ GWB 3/19/04)
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To: kristinn
WONDERFUL! WONDERFUL! WONDERFUL!

THANKS TONS!

PLEASE KEEP UP THE PHENOMENAL WORK!

THANKS SUPER TONS FOR HANDING OUT THE CLARKE TRANSCRIPTS! WHAT A HISTORIC STROKE OF BRILLIANCE, FAST THINKING AND PATRIOTIC ENERGY IN EFFECTIVE ACTION! I'll long remember that!

Bless you! Bless you! Bless you!
30 posted on 03/25/2004 10:49:26 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Nateman
Great point.
31 posted on 03/25/2004 10:50:26 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: JohnHuang2
Bump for pics tomorrow.
32 posted on 03/25/2004 10:52:15 PM PST by Reagan Man (The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY !)
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To: kristinn
Great signs!
33 posted on 03/25/2004 10:57:43 PM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33
Great job all. Was good to finally meet some of you in Fayetteville last weekend.

I saw a woman in a bright blue outfit get out of a car across the street with a group of people and called out a friendly warning to her, "Be careful around Bill Clinton in that blue dress, he might have a flashback!"

You may have hit too close for comfort in her case. Either she already has a dress stained with the slickster's "executive privilege" or she was left out when Bilious was spraying whatever strumpet came through the oval office.

34 posted on 03/25/2004 11:04:29 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: kristinn; staytrue; BillF; Angelwood; tgslTakoma; GunsareOK; BufordP; Trueblackman; sauropod
DC Chapter Bump.

Outstanding report and FReep! Thanks
35 posted on 03/25/2004 11:11:28 PM PST by Diver Dave
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To: kristinn
Well done, DC friends!
36 posted on 03/25/2004 11:17:10 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (We have the best politicians corporate money can buy!)
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To: kristinn
but Angelwood made a new sign that said, "WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BECOME VIOLENT."

Beautiful.

37 posted on 03/25/2004 11:29:00 PM PST by PRND21
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To: kristinn
WOW!!! .. What a night

Thanks for the report
38 posted on 03/25/2004 11:36:47 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: kristinn
Enjoy the irony!

Dems feature gun-toting Outkast rapper Member of profane duo pictured brandishing firearm part of fund-raiser


Posted: March 25, 2004 7:56 p.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Outkast member brandishing gun

Though the Democratic Party is known for its aversion to weapons and has pushed legislation limiting firearm rights, ex-Presidents Carter and Clinton are to join a star-studded fund-raiser tonight featuring the rap duo Outkast, which promotes itself with an image of one member of the group brandishing a handgun.

The event at the Washington, D.C., nightclub Dream was to feature Ginuwine, Kenneth "Babyface" Edmonds and Q-Tip, along with Outkast, the New York Times reported.

Before the club event, Democrats were to gather at what was billed as one of the largest party fund-raisers off all times, with an anticipated net of $11 million. Besides Carter and Clinton, luminaries planning to attend were former Vice President Al Gore, presidential candidate John Kerry, most of the other Democratic presidential candidates and former candidates Eugene J. McCarthy and George McGovern.

The all-you-can eat barbeque event takes place at the National Building Museum in the nation's capital, where 2,000 patrons were expected to pay $1,000 minimum to attend.

On Outkast's website, outkast.com, one member of the group, Dre (aka Andre Benjamin), is seen prominently brandishing a gun in his right hand. (After going to site, click on the right-hand image labeled "The Love Below.")

The second event featuring Outkast appeared to be targeted at a different economic class, with 5,000 people expecting to pay just $50 each.

Outkast won the Album of the Year Grammy last month for their latest project, "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below," which has sold over 3.5 million copies. CBS apologized to the Native-American community after the group appeared on the broadcast in feathers and war paint dancing around a teepee.

The award-winning album contains profanity-laced songs with titles such as "Where are My Panties?" "She Lives in My Lap" and "Vibrate."

As WorldNetDaily reported, in 2002 Outkast was the featured act in an annual music festival held in Columbia, S.C., that organizers called a "signature family event." Those in charge of the event believed the duo would help save the financially troubled festival.


39 posted on 03/25/2004 11:41:06 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (We have the best politicians corporate money can buy!)
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To: kristinn
Excellent work. I heard it mentioned on Mark Levin's radio show between 6-6:30 pm.

That cop was a jerk. I never see them harassing DEM protesters that way.

WTG! Nicely done! It's about time these Democrat A-HOLES got back some of what they've been dishing out for decades!
40 posted on 03/25/2004 11:46:26 PM PST by Fledermaus ( Frm ^;;^ says, "I give Dick Clarke's American Grandstand a 39...you can't dance to it.")
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Is he named after a gun?


41 posted on 03/26/2004 12:12:00 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kristinn
Excellent job. Bump!
42 posted on 03/26/2004 12:12:45 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: kristinn
bump
43 posted on 03/26/2004 12:30:53 AM PST by CONSERVE
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To: kristinn
Kristinn, THANK YOU for speaking for all of us who can't be there.
44 posted on 03/26/2004 1:57:29 AM PST by kitkat
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To: kristinn; staytrue; BillF; Angelwood; tgslTakoma; GunsareOK; BufordP; Trueblackman; sauropod
On my way home from work last night around 9 p.m., I was listening to xlinton's sickening, legacy building, self-promoting speech on C-SPAN Radio.

Now, I read this spectacular report. I have to tell you that I'm already fighting a cold or allergies, and between the speech, my headache and the chilling scene of a police officer stifling free speech, I think I'll just go back to bed and be really depressed.

The area of the National Building Museum and the National Police Memorial is one of my most favorite areas of DC, but it will now be remembered, by me anyway, as a place where a terrible and frightening line has been crossed. The trampling of civil liberties needs to stop.

Thank you all, I think, for being there.
45 posted on 03/26/2004 2:29:53 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: kristinn
The cop who had ordered me to be quiet came down the steps of the building across the street to the curb and stopped. I was prepared to tell him that no order of his would stop me from exercising my First Amendment right to criticize a U.S. senator.

I'd be willing to bet (from experience) that this cop wanted to make an arrest and you guys were the target. But when he returned to his post, he talked to his supervisor who told him to back off and sent him on another assignment.

If this happens again anywhere, with any police agency. Comply with the cop's request/demand, but ask to speak to his supervisor immediately. If he doesn't get one over to you, then call the police agency by cell phone and request a supervisor meet you at the scene.

This let's them know you mean business too. The supervisor will squash any potential trouble as long as you speak him or her calmly, quietly and logically.

You guys were dealing with a partisan hot-shot low level cop. They aren't supposed to confront you without a complaint of disturbing the peace or other violation.

But always talk to a supervisor, that old boy doesn't want things to get out of hand and he will step on his people if he feels they're out of line.

You guys did a good job and used common sense.

46 posted on 03/26/2004 2:49:15 AM PST by Tactical
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To: kristinn
At least we didn't get arrested.

LOL...

About 9 months ago in California, 50-60 of us were on a bridge overpass waving American flags. Something we did on the 11th of every month. The Highway Patrol came up and kicked us off the overpass, asserting we were slowing traffic on the freeway below.

I know your dilemma as I pondered if it was OK to get arrested for waving the American flag or if I should just follow the orders of the police. I left....

47 posted on 03/26/2004 3:08:27 AM PST by Drango (2 FReep is 2B --- 2B is 2 FReep)
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To: kristinn; Alamo-Girl; ALOHA RONNIE; Tailgunner Joe
litany of 10 years of dem transgressions bump
48 posted on 03/26/2004 3:09:51 AM PST by risk
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To: kristinn
There are important legal and tactical steps to take to prevent this problem of unconstitutional police interference.

You need to get a formal opinion letter from a good DC First Amendment lawyer about police rights to contain you in one area, move you once you are established in a place, make noise, etc. For example. in some jurisdictions, bull horns are perfectly legal.

You should then have a copy of that letter with you at all times.

Then, and this is important, always have multiple video camcorders at all rallies. At least one should be up close, accurately recording any confrontation with or orders from any LEO. If a separate wireless microphone is being used, it should be clearly visible so as to ensure no one accuses you of surreptitious taping.

The start of any confrontation should include politely speaking to the effect of "I'm now being approached by a man in a police uniform with a badge/shoulder patch reading X Y Z. The officer's name tag says John Whatever and his badge number is XXX.

Then politely say to the officer, "Sir, I want to give you the courtesy of letting you and your superiors know that we are video and audio recording this discussion. Now, what was it you wanted to say to us?"

If a LEO always have another person with you. If LEO asks something like "Does this concern you?" The answer is a simple "Yes." (It's hard to argue with a simple yes.)

If asked why. The first party simply says, "Because I want him/her here." Always be polite, but do not be intimidated. They may try to separate leadership from the group. Do not let them do so. Do not push a camera into anyone's face. Never touch the officer or yell at him/her in any way. Don't block a sidewalk, stand in road, etc.

If ordered to do anything that your lawyer says they can not make you do, say, "Our lawyers say we do not have to do that, and we don't want to, and we're acting on advice of our lawyers, and they asked me to give you this." Then politely hand the officer a copy of the lawyer's letter saying why you can stay/be where you are.

If LEO starts to read letter, move away from him/her a few feet and begin conversation with some other FReepers, acting as if your conversation/interaction with LEO is over.

Be respectful of LEOs. In any confrontation with LEO, uses phrases like, "I know you don't want to stifle protected First Amendment Free Speech any more than anyone else does......" Always be polite. Address LEO's as "Officer." If there are any hotheads or provocateurs in your group, get them away. They may be from lib side, trying to get us blamed for trouble.

Often, Feds will try to get local LEOs to do dirty work. In that case, something like "Just because some federal officer wants you to get into trouble denying us our First Amendment rights, that doesn't make it right or legal. Please read the lawyer's letter again and you will see how any such action can make you, your superiors, your deparmtent, the mayer, all liable for damages for this illegal action... and of course, officer, you have now have been formally informed of the law in these matters, in writing, so that makes any violation much worse."

Two cameras are better than one, because if they try to take first camera, second camera can record that. For a major confrontation, even have a third camera with a good long lens some distance away. If something serious goes down, quickly change tape in camera. Get the tapes out of the area ASAP. Cops may try to take them as "evidence."

If they try to intimidate you into not recording, simply say "Why are we recording this? Because we have an absolute legal right to do so, because our lawyers (plural) want a perfect record of everyone's conduct here, yours and ours, and the TV stations will want it too..... and if LEO still has a bad look on his face, add, "and because we all remember Rodney King."

Once they see you are not going to back down and will politely and legally stand up for your rights, and not be intimidated, they will usually go away and leave you alone.
49 posted on 03/26/2004 3:27:27 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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Never stop recording. The harder they push you to stop recording, you know the more they want to do something and not have it recorded. If you record, they, not you, will be intimadated.

They remember Brother Rodney too.

There ARE some areas you cannot record, ie airport security screening ares, etc. but that restriction does not extend to "police operations."
50 posted on 03/26/2004 3:38:42 AM PST by MindBender26 (For more news as it happens, news first, fast, 5 minutes sooner, stay tuned to FReeper Radio!)
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