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BEGALA SLANDERS CONDOLEEZA RICE AS A LIAR (On request of Hugh Hewitt)
CNN Crossfire ^ | 3/26/04 | Paul Begala / Charlie Black

Posted on 03/26/2004 3:57:28 PM PST by Steven W.

CHARLIE BLACK, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: She's already been up there for four hours and she's going to go back for as long as they want.

(CROSSTALK)

BEGALA: But Dr. Rice has never testified under oath about this, Dr. Rice being the president's national security adviser. But she has written an op-ed. She began this week with an op-ed in "The New York Times" in which she says among other things that there was no intelligence on a plot to use airplanes.

Now we have a former FBI translator who says that's false. She also said that the plan for al Qaeda before 9/11 included military attacks. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage also under oath said, no, that was false. So she told two lies in 500 words. Can you name me two lies in Dick Clarke's 50,000 word book? I haven't found any.

BLACK: Well, first of all, what she said was nobody in the White House knew that there were plans to use airplanes as missiles.

Now, maybe the FBI knew it. Even Dick Clarke didn't claim that he told Condi or the president that. Nobody knew it. Let's talk about the facts. Let's talk about Mr. Clarke for a minute.

(CROSSTALK)

BEGALA: Well, no, no, I want to talk about Dr. Rice. Why won't she testify under oath before the 9/11 Commission? Doesn't she owe that to us as an officer of the United States government?

BLACK: Most people -- most people in this town, Republican and Democrat alike, believe her and trust her.

(CROSSTALK)

BEGALA: No, they don't. She's a liar. She lied twice in "The Washington Post" op-ed.

CARLSON: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

(APPLAUSE)

BEGALA: Well, sir, they don't. I'm sorry. She's a proven liar. She should testify under oath.

BLACK: She's not a proven liar. I just knocked the one point down.

BEGALA: The secretary of -- undersecretary of state says she is.

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TOPICS: Announcements; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: begala; clarke; cnn; condoleezzarice; forehead; rice; slander
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Hugh requests (a) appropriate comments be directed to CNN + (b) procure quote from Sec. Armitage
1 posted on 03/26/2004 3:57:29 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: Steven W.
And the liberals wonder why we all watch Fox.
2 posted on 03/26/2004 3:58:19 PM PST by JohnBDay
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To: Steven W.
I can't decide who the Dimms want to damage more...our current President...or a strong contender to be our next.
3 posted on 03/26/2004 4:00:51 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Steven W.; generalissimoduane
This attack isn't to get Bush.....it is designed to get Condi.
4 posted on 03/26/2004 4:01:37 PM PST by Dog
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To: Steven W.
in which she says among other things that there was no intelligence on a plot to use airplanes. .... Now we have a former FBI translator who says that's false.

So, Condi is expected to have knowledge of everything every Federal employee has knowledge of? She's supposed to have 100% recall of every piece of intellegence ever recieved?

The sad thing is that these people will actually hold this against her, despite the fact that's it's totally unreasonable.

It's like the "Bush Lied", big lie. Tell it enough, and they'll believe it.

5 posted on 03/26/2004 4:02:20 PM PST by narby (Clarke's job was to prevent terrorist attacks, but he's better at CYA)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
They want to knock down Condi..
6 posted on 03/26/2004 4:02:29 PM PST by Dog
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To: Right_in_Virginia
I suspect that Clarke getting caught lying has really disrupted the DemoncRATs' plans, having brought him back to the campaign trail but left with the increasingly nearly dead political corpse of Hanoi John French Kerry & nothing but Clarke's pending perjury charges to prop it up with.
7 posted on 03/26/2004 4:03:22 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: Steven W.
beggala is scum
8 posted on 03/26/2004 4:04:08 PM PST by petercooper (I actually did vote for the $87 Billion, before I voted against it.)
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To: petercooper
Speaking of Proven Liars, how about Madeline NotSoBright's denial (to John Lehman during 9/11 hearings) that she ever knew of the many terrorists to take refuge in Iraq, including the planner of the 93 attack on the WTC who was granted sanctuary by Saddam.
9 posted on 03/26/2004 4:05:36 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: DoctorZIn
ping
11 posted on 03/26/2004 4:06:29 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Much of your pain is self-chosen. --- Kahlil Gibran)
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To: Steven W.
Begala just committed slander.
Rice testified in private session before the 9/11 Commission for hours and we all know it.

It is Clarke Bar who may just be facing perjury charges and we already have the proof!
12 posted on 03/26/2004 4:06:32 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Steven W.

"Don't ask so many questions.
OK, I AM a paid consultant and paid analyst for ABC.
OK, I admit my book publisher IS owned by the same company that owns CBS that I AND CBS
did profit from the puff piece on me.
Yes, my business partner, Roger Cressey, IS employed by NBC and there is a fiduciary relationship there.
Well, you got me again. My teaching partner at Harvard DOES work for Senator Kerry's campaign.
Now move on. There is nothing to see here.
"

13 posted on 03/26/2004 4:06:41 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: cold34t
Rice has already testified in private with the 9/11 Commission for over 4 hours.
14 posted on 03/26/2004 4:07:46 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: petercooper

"She's a liar...they're All liars...."

16 posted on 03/26/2004 4:08:54 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Steven W.
This is so obnoxious; as one of Hugh callers said, if this were a white male republican talking about an African American female Democrat the sh#t would hit the fan. (And it still may). Even if she did make factual errors – and I am not saying she did – that is different than a lie. While am not an attorney, I would guess that this is slander (or libel I cant remember which is written and which is spoken). I doubt that will be prosecuted but perhaps it should be.
17 posted on 03/26/2004 4:09:15 PM PST by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: cold34t
Why throw away the constitution by permanently betraying the separation of powers embedded therein merely to satisfy DemoncRAT partisan haggling, slander & lies?
18 posted on 03/26/2004 4:09:19 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: Steven W.
Paul Begala is a Liar.

The sky is blue.

Grass is green.

Democrats are socialist scumbags.

Shit stinks.

Islam is a death cult.

Madeleine Albright is one butt-ugly women.

etc, etc...

19 posted on 03/26/2004 4:09:29 PM PST by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: cold34t
"Wouldn't all this speculation over Ms. Rices integrity be solved instantly if she would just testify Under Oath?"
I think a lot more would be answered if Bill Clinton and Al Gore were made to testify under oath before the Commission for the country to see. And Clarke needs to be called back to explains his lies.
20 posted on 03/26/2004 4:10:01 PM PST by afz400
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To: semaj
Democrats are socialist scumbags.

Would it be "appropriate" if I used that as my tagline?

21 posted on 03/26/2004 4:11:08 PM PST by petercooper (I actually did vote for the $87 Billion, before I voted against it.)
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To: cold34t
Wouldn't all this speculation over Ms. Rices integrity be solved instantly if she would just testify Under Oath?

Hasn't Condi already testified under oath...for like four or more hours?

What they want is to grandstand...and humiliate her in public.

Even putting aside separation of powers....(the President can't call Senator Daschle to his office, put him under oath and roll the tape)...we're at war. The National Security Advisor from any administration should not be expected to testify in public under these circumstances.

Period.

22 posted on 03/26/2004 4:12:17 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: kellynla
Rice has already testified in private with the 9/11 Commission for over 4 hours.m

Doesn't matter. NYTimes already approved the lie today. Most people won't know the truth. Truth it not the purpose. Even some of the Widows on Monday were coached by Kerry ops to pick on Condi Rice - they meekly said "publicly."

Don't seem to understand this Condi bashing. Though it's similar to the white liberal elite frustration that Powell does not fit how they think a black person should think.

23 posted on 03/26/2004 4:12:23 PM PST by Shermy
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To: cold34t
"You forgot the Bin Laden Family memebers let out during the No Fly Period after 9/11. Didn't she approve that too?"
I think Clarke approved that - he was in charge of things like that. That's why Clarke is going to be charge with perjury.
24 posted on 03/26/2004 4:12:32 PM PST by afz400
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To: Dog
They are worried about a strong, smart Black woman having more experience than Hillary.
25 posted on 03/26/2004 4:12:56 PM PST by Eva
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To: semaj
Madeleine Albright is one butt-ugly women.

Madeleine Albright is a woman? OMG I would never have guessed.

26 posted on 03/26/2004 4:12:59 PM PST by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Steven W.
Hugh requests (a) appropriate comments be directed to CNN

I say never let CNN know you've been watching. If CNN gets LITTLE OR NO response from their shows they will become even more nervous about losing audience share.

27 posted on 03/26/2004 4:13:15 PM PST by hobson
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To: cold34t
Wouldn't all this speculation over Ms. Rices integrity be solved instantly if she would just testify Under Oath?

I don't think you mean Under Oath, I think you mean On Television.

28 posted on 03/26/2004 4:13:28 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: cold34t
You seem critical. What else is under the "rader"?
29 posted on 03/26/2004 4:13:43 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: semaj
I like your post #19.
31 posted on 03/26/2004 4:15:00 PM PST by sport
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To: Steven W.
The foul-mouthed monster of convoluted falsehoods called Condoleeza Rice a liar? That is the lowest of the lows. Begala is lower than duck waste at the bottom of Lake Erie - that accounts for the dirt that comes out of his mouth.
32 posted on 03/26/2004 4:15:14 PM PST by abclily
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To: Right_in_Virginia
What they want is to grandstand...and humiliate her in public.

She is the soft target. Probably the most easily rattled.

33 posted on 03/26/2004 4:15:53 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: petercooper
Go for it.
34 posted on 03/26/2004 4:16:21 PM PST by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: semaj
Democrats are socialist scumbags.

35 posted on 03/26/2004 4:17:02 PM PST by petercooper (Democrats are socialist scumbags.)
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To: Eva
Yep....and what does that tell you.....they don't think Kerry will win this year...they are tring to take out the one person who could give Hillary a challenge in '08.
36 posted on 03/26/2004 4:17:35 PM PST by Dog
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To: Steven W.
It's about trying to destroy credibility of the administration.

Begala should be taken off the air.
37 posted on 03/26/2004 4:18:38 PM PST by Tom Jefferson
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To: cold34t
Bush is trying to save the separation of powers clause in the constitution. No NSC adviser has ever testified under oath before the congress. Remember, the Congress didn't approve her. She's Bush's personal adviser.
38 posted on 03/26/2004 4:18:57 PM PST by rushmom
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To: petercooper
"Democrats are socialist scumbags."

The worst kind.

39 posted on 03/26/2004 4:19:28 PM PST by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: Steven W.
Is Begala saying that when a person testifies in private before a Senate committee, they aren't put under oath? That's pretty silly.

The big deal about Clarke right now is the idea that he testified under oath two times, in private, and his testimony doesn't agree between the two times. They are considering a perjury investigation against him.

40 posted on 03/26/2004 4:19:36 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: cold34t
The only "under Oath" statements NOW not believeable were made by Clarke.
41 posted on 03/26/2004 4:19:51 PM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: Steven W.
Interesting how the Dims new attack phrase is "He/She is a liar!" They need not look further than the end of their own noses.
42 posted on 03/26/2004 4:19:54 PM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: cold34t
"Like the AWOL issue is off the radar now."
The AWOL issue isn't off the radar - Kerry was AWOL after returning from Vietnam - he did not meet his Navy Reserve requirements and joined a subversive group while a member of the Reserves. Should have been court-martialed at the time. Should have been charged with war crimes for murdering that Vietnamese man, too. John Kerry - baby-killer, traitor!
43 posted on 03/26/2004 4:20:30 PM PST by afz400
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To: Tom Jefferson
It's about trying to destroy credibility of the administration.

That's what they're doing. Admin ill prepared. Should watch what "citizens" are coached to say. Pundits follow. Kerry is easy to follow.

44 posted on 03/26/2004 4:20:43 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Dog
Racists aren't they?

Anti female, and racists these democrats are!
45 posted on 03/26/2004 4:20:56 PM PST by ladyinred (Weakness Invites War. Peace through Strength.)
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To: cold34t
You forgot the Bin Laden Family memebers let out during the No Fly Period after 9/11. Didn't she approve that too?

No she did not. And she's not in charge of issuing visas either. Remember the 911 terrorists who actually got visas after they were here illegally? She didn't approve that either.

Any more stupid questions?

46 posted on 03/26/2004 4:21:27 PM PST by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: cold34t
In your six posts on this forum, you've managed to bring up Cheney's daughter, grieving 9/11 families, Bush AWOL, and multiple insinuations about Condoleeza Rice's honesty.

If you're planning to follow up by asking "Where is the Plane?" that hit the Pentagon, I am going to stomp your Moby ass.
47 posted on 03/26/2004 4:21:37 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Steven W.
Even a blind man can see Richard Clarke as the bigot he is; a legend in his own mind; taken out by a intelligent and highly competent black woman who happens to be conservative...

The screaming we hear from those on the left is entirely of their own making. Nothing but hot air, backing a cold horse...


48 posted on 03/26/2004 4:21:49 PM PST by gatorgriz ("The world is full of bastards - the number ever increasing the further one gets from Missoula, MT")
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To: cold34t
I think you are lost...the crowd from salon.com is looking for you
49 posted on 03/26/2004 4:21:58 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: Dog
They would love to force her to resign. No way that will ever happen.
50 posted on 03/26/2004 4:23:31 PM PST by ShandaLear (Osama always liked Kerry best.)
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