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UK Muslims angry at plan to bring back historic statue of wild pig
industry watch ^ | 2004-03-21

Posted on 03/27/2004 7:20:48 PM PST by dennisw

The Boar War ; Muslims angry at plan to bring back historic statue of wild pig Source: Mail on Sunday; London (UK) Publication date: 2004-03-21 Arrival time: 2004-03-22

FOR more than 100 years it stood proudly as the centrepiece of England's oldest public park before being decapitated during a Second World War air raid. Now a row has broken out after plans to replace Derby's historic Florentine Boar statue were abandoned for fear of offending Muslims, whose religion considers pigs to be 'unclean'.

A replica of the statue, a crouching wild boar, was intended as the jewel in the crown of a Pounds 5 million National Lottery- funded restoration of the city's Arboretum Park.

But councillors have called for the proposal to be scrapped amid sinister warnings that the statue would be vandalised or stolen.

The Florentine Boar statue stood from 1840 until 1942 when it was beheaded by a German bomb. But it was last week branded 'offensive' during a meeting of Derby Council's minority ethnic communities advisory committee.

Councillor Suman Gupta, a Labour representative for Derby's Derwent ward, told the meeting: 'If the statue is put back in the Arboretum, I have been told it will not be there the next day, or at least it won't be in the same condition.

'We should not have the boar because it is offensive to some of the groups in the area.' The park is in an area known for its large Pakistani community.

Shokat Lal, a community leader, said at the meeting: 'In Normanton the majority of residents are Pakistani Muslims.

'I'm not saying we have to lose the boar, but we could put the boar in the city centre so it does not cause offence to people.' Local historian Christopher Harris told The Mail on Sunday: 'We are living in a multicultural society and I hope that would include English culture.

'If the boar had never been destroyed in 1941, these people would have grown up with it and would not have noticed it.

'Activists have jumped on the chance to make a statement. It is one that damns English culture-But the wild boar is part of Derby's culture.' He said a small minority of Muslims with extreme political views had issued veiled threats to the council over the statue.

The land for the park was donated to the council in September 1840 by Joseph Strutt, the first mayor of the Borough of Derby, a wealthy cotton mill owner who wanted to give the public a place to exercise.

He commissioned architect J.C. Loudon to landscape the area. The hollow ceramic boar was donated by Mr Strutt.

Sculpted on commission by W. J. Coffee - and based on drawings of a similar statue in the Market Nuovo in Florence - it was intended as a gift to the working classes of Derby.

Last week's committee meeting proposed that a statue of Mr Loudon should be erected at the Arboretum with a new site for the boar in the city centre.

Last night, Councillor Gupta told The Mail on Sunday: ' Communities change.'

Tory leader Philip Hickson said: 'The community is strong enough to stand a statue of a boar in a park. But we live in an age where sometimes things are a little more politically correct than they ought to be.'

Publication date: 2004-03-21


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: statue; ukmuslims
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Why is it that this makes my blood boil?
Just a guess - because you're SANE.
41 posted on 03/27/2004 8:21:33 PM PST by Libertina
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To: Sabatier
I suppose very few of these "TOWELHEADS" are fans of Pink Floyd !!
42 posted on 03/27/2004 8:21:50 PM PST by RightWingNut
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To: mathurine
You got that right.
43 posted on 03/27/2004 8:23:20 PM PST by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: dennisw
Don't make the Muslims angry PING!!!
44 posted on 03/27/2004 8:24:35 PM PST by rogueleader
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To: dennisw
He said a small minority of Muslims with extreme political views had issued veiled threats to the council over the statue.

This is one GOOD aspect of the Patriot Act. Who are these extreme Muslims making threats, and perhaps they ought to be "detained".

45 posted on 03/27/2004 8:28:24 PM PST by montag813
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To: Libertina
we'll get back to ya, .....promise : )


46 posted on 03/27/2004 8:32:55 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Snuffington
You've got that right.
Sometimes these days I hardly recognise the country of my birth and upbringing.
47 posted on 03/27/2004 8:38:30 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: Robert_Paulson2
No. At least as much damage as having the philosophy influence the gene pool, i.e. who to marry, etc. If the problem were genetic, it would have to be explained why, for example, why Islam was so popular in Indonesia. Not that Indonesians were the original rocket scientists, LOL!
48 posted on 03/27/2004 8:41:41 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (Capital punishment saves lives.)
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To: Dec31,1999
Hmmm. But aren't pigs unclean to orthodox Jews, too?

AFAIK, only to eat. I don't think they have any kind of swinophobia like the members of the religion of pieces.

49 posted on 03/27/2004 8:42:05 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: 1066AD
Sometimes these days I hardly recognize the country of my birth and upbringing.

It is something the Musli could never build, could never understand, could never maintain, could never benefit in any way. Drive them out before it is too late, or they will destroy it. Death and destruction of all things humane and civilized is all they ever achieve. Banish all the death-culters.
50 posted on 03/27/2004 8:43:18 PM PST by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: SENTINEL

Now there's a Hog they *should* be afraid of. We need more of this kind as well. Seems more certain than a bag of lard on the bus.

51 posted on 03/27/2004 8:44:26 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: dennisw
Moos can suck my pig.
52 posted on 03/27/2004 8:44:36 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never let your life be directed by people who could only get government jobs.)
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To: Democratshavenobrains
Maybe if we put up pictures of pigs everywhere in this country, it will keep Muslims (at least the crazy fundamentalist ones) from moving here.

Pictures. I'd keep a real porker in the back yard if it would keep them away. First distract 'em with the hog, maybe just a Javelina, since I've got a tiny yard, and then introduce them to John Moses Browning's creation, up close and personal.

53 posted on 03/27/2004 8:46:36 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Hank Rearden
I'd be all for renaming America as Pigfatia if it would get ALL of them to move the hell out of here forever!
54 posted on 03/27/2004 8:47:16 PM PST by broadsword (The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for Democrats to get elected.)
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To: broadsword
I'd be all for renaming America as Pigfatia

Actualy I'd prefer "Hog Heaven" :)

You're making me hungry folks, have to grill some pork chops tomorrow, after I have some nice bacon for breakfast of course. :)

55 posted on 03/27/2004 8:49:51 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: montag813
It's crossover time, if it hasn't happened yet. Don't get me wrong, I like Muslims, but they are like dealing with closet gays. They have a dual life; one face for infidels and one face for fellows. It's called Tikya, IIRC.
56 posted on 03/27/2004 8:50:04 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (Capital punishment saves lives.)
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To: dennisw
Fine. Replace it with a huge equestrian statue of Richard the Lion Hearted. The bodies of some vanquished muslims could form a nice base for the horse's hooves.
57 posted on 03/27/2004 8:54:16 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: dennisw
Don't mention the BOAR!

(oblique John Cleese reference)

58 posted on 03/27/2004 8:57:59 PM PST by SWake ("Estrada was savaged by liars and abandoned by cowards." Mark Davis, WBAP, 09/09/2003)
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To: dennisw
We should not have the boar because it is offensive to some of the groups in the area.' The park is in an area known for its large Pakistani community.

Then they should haul their butts back to Pakistan. These people have a hell of a nerve to tell the English what they should do in their own country.

59 posted on 03/27/2004 9:03:19 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. **-Michelangelo)
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To: dennisw
New lawn ornament: The Pig.
60 posted on 03/27/2004 9:05:08 PM PST by samtheman
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