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The 9/11 Widows
OpinionJournal.com ^ | 4.14.2004 | Dorothy Rabinowitz

Posted on 04/13/2004 9:14:43 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:06:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Americans are beginning to tire of them.

Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:01 a.m.

"I watched my husband murdered live on TV. .

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 911families; 911widows; blackwidows; breitweiser; bushknew; greedydems; jerseygirls; kristinbreitweiser; rabinowitz
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To: Letitring
I know - I keep asking myself - where's Lisa Beamer - but she's got more class in her little finger than all 4 of these ladies do altogether--she doesn't need to get on the air, demanding apologies from Bush and the gang.

I don't mean to sound cruel and cold - I cannot imagine what they have gone through - losing their husbands in the 9/11 attack - but I've had just about enough of them (and Chrissy Matthews, too).

281 posted on 04/14/2004 10:42:51 AM PDT by MasonGal
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Now if we could only get a moron detector...
282 posted on 04/14/2004 10:55:58 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Mo1
That was my thought too. When you are in a dangerous situation you just have to go with your gut feeling and not rely on anyone else.

Neal Boortz was discussing "the widows" this morning with Jamie Dupree and he (Dupree) said even Washington insiders are growing tired of them and they have very little clout with congress anymore.

283 posted on 04/14/2004 11:04:45 AM PDT by Ima Lurker
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Their already established status in the media, as a small but heroically determined band of sisters speaking truth to power,

Feature film to be released within the next year, I'm sure.

They ought to be calling them the Jersey Whores, the way they have sold their husbands memory to the Democratic Campaign Machine.

284 posted on 04/14/2004 11:10:39 AM PDT by BSunday (This space left intentionally blank)
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To: SuzanneC
Did you see this? A keeper!
285 posted on 04/14/2004 11:31:09 AM PDT by YaYa123 ( @One Of The Widows Told Chris Mathews She Never Heard of Dorothy. LMAO.com)
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To: Howlin
Chris Mathews should be tarred and feathered for shamelessly using these women for self-promotion. He's been on tv almost 24-7 this week, ranting, raving, spitting out over-the-top hyperbolic accusations at the Bush administration, with particular invective lobbed at Condi Rice. "The Wives" share his fondness for going after Condi.

Coiffed, customized, cued, and curt, these women love the victimhood spotlight. It's sickening....and so is Chris Mathews! a new low even for him, and I'll wager selling his soul like this, hasn't upped his ratings.

286 posted on 04/14/2004 12:47:33 PM PDT by YaYa123 ( @One Of The Widows Told Chris Mathews She Never Heard of Dorothy. LMAO.com)
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To: YaYa123
Thanks for the headsup. I had heard about this, but hadn't had an opportunity to read it.
287 posted on 04/14/2004 1:17:21 PM PDT by SuzanneC
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To: Howlin
I think Toricelli used her at a time when she didn't understand how all that works.

To be sure, Lisa Beamer has not been 1/10 as offensive as these other 9/11 moms, but she still signed her name to that letter at a time when even the New York Times was writing about Torricelli's corruption.

288 posted on 04/14/2004 1:20:08 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Howlin
They are saying that the Pentagon people were expecting "something" that day so they all canceled any flights they had booked, I guess.

That's a lie right there. I've been to the Pentagon memorial, and at least one of the people who died when the plane hit the Pentagon was not only a Pentagon employee, but a passenger on that plane. It's one of those really weird coincidences, but it did happen.

289 posted on 04/14/2004 1:23:52 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: YaYa123; Howlin
Check out this link for something called muslimwakeup.com. Breitwieser's mentioned quite a bit.

So's a widow named Ellen Mariani. Here's the link for that lawsuit. Look who Mariani's lawyer is, one Philip J. Berg of FL recount fame. Wonder how Mariani hooked up with him?

290 posted on 04/14/2004 1:25:39 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: sinkspur
Chris has a jones for Kristen. He always seats her next to him, and defers to her on every question.

It's quite noticeable that Matthews has developed a peculiarly unhealthy infatuation with Kristen Breitweiser. Mrs Matthews would be wise to keep an eye on these two.

291 posted on 04/14/2004 2:07:07 PM PDT by CaptainK
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To: jimbo123
Thanks for the info. I think I will reword the post to address the widow who said it and send it to her.
She can't believe that her husband would not have went to work all that time, nor would she probably have found it acceptable that he not go and lose valuable family income over that memo. She's just making things up to back up her agenda. That one in particular is glaringly obvious.
292 posted on 04/14/2004 4:03:34 PM PDT by cupcakes
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To: CaptainK
Yep - I do believe he has the hots for her. I mentioned that in a couple of different threads regarding Chrissy and the 9/11 widows. It is blatantly obvious to me.

I keep wondering when the "Chris and Kristen Show" will debut on MSNBC.

I wonder - are they are going to be on his show - this hour? I wonder if he will EVER have other 9/11 widows, loved ones, etc. - to give their point of view.

I doubt it.

293 posted on 04/14/2004 4:07:51 PM PDT by MasonGal
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To: MasonGal
You psychic, you. Guess who is on with Chris right now?
294 posted on 04/14/2004 4:29:57 PM PDT by CaptainK
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To: kcvl
Well, I'm finally getting around to reading replies on the thread and see your CNN transcript. This caught my eye from Breitweiser:

All 10 commissioners need to see the PDB. And the reason for that is because we had a national security adviser come out days after the attacks and say we had no idea they could use planes as missiles.

The fact is that in May 2002 someone leaked the existence of the PDB and spun its contents to insinuate certain things about what the administration "knew".

It was in the wake of that leaking that Condoleezza Rice immediately gave a press briefing and talked about this PDB. It is in THAT press briefing that she made the now infamous comment about nobody imagining they'd take planes and slam them into buildings.

And as we now know after seeing the declassified brief--the PDB didn't address that scenario either.

So Rice did NOT make the comment, as Breitweiser asserts here, "days after the attacks".

295 posted on 04/14/2004 4:59:52 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: xp38
Speaking of our beloved Barbara one widower I would love to hear from is Ted.

He is on LKL this minute.

296 posted on 04/14/2004 6:03:57 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Use It Or Lose It
I was stunned when these women accused John Ashcroft of refusing to fly on September 11 because he knew planes were going to be used in the attack. He was actually questioned about this yesterday, demonstrating that the commissioners are dancing to the tune of these wretched women.

Believe it or not, Robert Mueller was before the panel today and Tom Kean asked HIM about Ashcroft's flying arrangements during that summer. Mueller was not prepared to answer and was vague about it and said he'd get details back to them.

Kean evidently (though I missed this others noted it on the Live Thread) stated he was asking this on behalf of "the families".

Now, what other implication are we to take from that but they are calling Ashcroft a liar in his answer (or at least possibly lying) and Kean obligingly pandered to them and thus, in my book smeared Ashcroft with such innuendo.

Of course the facts will be presented but in the meantime the bizarre conspiracy theory was in fact revived a bit today with that bit.

Incidentally, Kean then further disgraced himself by speaking to the press after today's hearing and stating that Gorelick should not step down, that she's non-partisan--yes, that's what he said--it is silly to even suggest she has a conflict and then he ended with we should all stay out of the commission's business.

297 posted on 04/14/2004 6:10:03 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Blue Jays; My2Cents
Another no flamer here. I've also thought the same thing. There have to have been at least a couple people who were liberated by the death of a spouse. I am sure that among all the "heroes" were some cheaters, abusers, etc.
298 posted on 04/14/2004 6:51:33 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: NYC GOP Chick; firebrand; Tabi Katz; hellinahandcart; sauropod; Oschisms; Clemenza; Cacique; ...
Kristen's response to my e-mail:

first, i never expected nor wanted anyone's sympathy.

second, many 9/11 families use support services.

third, since you have decided that the 9/11 commission is "no longer" being productive in their investigation, i must ask you when you started following the work of the commission? what spawned your interest? have you been following our work for the last 2 years? or have you just been interested in the commission lately?

fourth, were you in attendance at the hearing? have you attended all the hearings? have you read all the transcripts from the hearings? did you watch any of the televised hearings in their entirety? what are you basing this belief on? is this your own informed decision/opinion? and, have you visited our website and read our press releases?

fifth, i am totally 100% self-funded. i would be happy to send you my cab receipts, hotel receipts, train tickets, gas receipts, and toll receipts. and where are you getting the heinz foundation question from? the allegation has been proven false because it is false. frankly, rush limbaugh is bordering on a lawsuit if he doesnt watch his erroneous statements.

sixth, in order to get interviewed by reporters, most often you have to be in attendance at the hearings. probably, because reporters are asking questions about the substance of the hearings. ironically, the people that seem to be complaining have attended few--if any hearings. i would encourage everyone to attend the hearings. they are extremely educational. they prove that democracy does work. thank god for that, afterall that is why we are in iraq, right?

seventh, once again i implore you to do some research. the 9/11 families have no right to sue. our rights to hold anyone accountable were taken from us by the airline bailout bill on 9/20/01. to quote the special master of the vcf, "it was the only game in town."...(and p.s. i do get offended when people refer to 9/11 or anything associated with it as a game.)

eighth, i voted for President Bush because i thought he would be a better president than al gore. when someone takes an oath of office, they take an oath to lead, protect and serve. i only wish all of our elected officials remembered that oath leading up to, on, and post 9/11. will i vote for my President again? check back with me in october.

ninth, my child's nickname is smiley--because my child is always smiling. my child is the happiest, most content child you could imagine. i promised myself when my husband was killed that i owed it to him to make sure that my child never lost that glimmer in the eye, that sparkling infectious little giggle that my child had even as an infant...to date, my child hasnt lost that smile, that giggle, that sparkle--my child is my ray of sunshine...i wish more people understood the importance of making children safe and happy...i dont have a nanny. i dont have a babysitter. i take my child with me when i can. when i can't my child stays with family. but, thanks for asking. honestly, i could care less what anyone thinks of me, what i care about is what my child will think of me when my child is older--that is what matters to me. what matters to you?

instead of attacking people for having a different viewpoint. why not try respectful disagreement followed by respectful dialogue. it is a nice concept.

take good care, kristen.

After I responded to her with valid counters to her comments and pointed out that I never attacked her, only disagreed with her, she wrote:

i noticed your email address. should i assume that your emails reflect the official company policy of XXXXXXX?

This last e-mail gave me the most insight into the inner workings of her mind...agree with me or I'll threaten you! Now I start to wonder how she and her buddies were able to get this commission in the first place...same tactics?

Note the same tactic with the Rush comment: and where are you getting the heinz foundation question from? the allegation has been proven false because it is false. frankly, rush limbaugh is bordering on a lawsuit if he doesnt watch his erroneous statements.

299 posted on 04/19/2004 11:34:32 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan
Lie #1:

seventh, once again i implore you to do some research. the 9/11 families have no right to sue. our rights to hold anyone accountable were taken from us by the airline bailout bill on 9/20/01. to quote the special master of the vcf, "it was the only game in town."...(and p.s. i do get offended when people refer to 9/11 or anything associated with it as a game.)

From www.september11th.org:

"9/11 widow Ellen Mariani has filed a lawsuit against Bush and other White House officials, charging them with complicity in the September 11th terrorist attacks. Mrs. Mariani has refused the $1 million in pay-off money from the government-allocated 9/11 compensation fund."

300 posted on 04/19/2004 11:43:43 AM PDT by EllaMinnow ("Pessimism never won any battle." - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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