Oklahoma City, TWA Flight 800, and the Gorelick connection

World Net Daily ^ | 4-16-04 | Jack Cashill

[Alamo-Girl]

I think that the wall was strengthened in an effort to reign in multiple investigations into the global crime syndicate that defined the Clinton administration, including both the commerce dept and the Chinese campaign donations, which were actually intertwined.

Indeed. Thanks for the article!

[Smokin' Joe]

There are people here who question the JBS (I am not a member), but the connection between ME types, OK City, and TWA 800 was made in the pages of The New American long ago.

Say what you want, but I keep subscribing because it takes 6 months to several years for the rest of the media to catch up.

[Eva]

There was a lot more on Sampley's website connecting Samir Ferrat, Ron Brown and TWA 800. For instance Ferrat, as we know was scheduled to fly on Brown's plane that crashed, but did you know that Ferrat took out millions of dollars in life insurance in the weeks prior to the TWA crash? He also transferred money from his business accounts to personal accounts and was heavily involved with other business executives aboard the Brown plane in projects in African countries of Algeria, the Ivory Coast, Tunisia and Gabon. The company also pursued contracts in Argentina and Vietnam. Along with about thirteen of the involved executives who died in the Brown crash, several other of the Brown staffers died in the months following the plane crash. Someone was tying up all the lose ends.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for the summary of Samir Ferrat!

[Eva]

Did you get my link to the article about Richard Ben Veniste?

[Alamo-Girl]

Sure did. Thank you!

[XBob]

snippet of long item. Search on Iraq on original document for a lot more.

040416 McVeighs Mandamus
2004-04-16
19:41:22




Freedomlaw.com Pleading re: McVeigh's Mandamus

IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS

FOR THE TENTH CIRCUIT




TIMOTHY JAMES McVEIGH,
Petitioner-Defendant,

v. Case No. 96-_____
(Case No. 96-CR-68-M below)

HONORABLE RICHARD P. MATSCH,
Respondent.




PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDAMUS OF PETITIONER-DEFENDANT,
TIMOTHY JAMES McVEIGH AND BRIEF IN SUPPORT

MARCH 25, 1997


OVERVIEW

The McVeigh defense, based upon the material provided to it, suggests the following hypothesis: A foreign power, probably Iraq, but not excluding the possibility of another foreign state, planned a terrorist attack(s) in the United States and that one of those targets was the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. The Murrah Building was chosen either because of lack of security (i.e. it was a "soft target"), or because of available resources such as Iraqi POW's who had been admitted into the United States were located in Oklahoma City, or possibly because the location of the building was important to American neo-Nazis such as those individuals who supported Richard Snell who was executed in Arkansas on April 19, 1995.

The plan was arranged for a Middle Eastern bombing engineer to engineer the bomb in such a way that it could be carefully transported and successfully detonated. There is no reported incident of neo-Nazis or extreme right-wing militants in this country exploding any bomb of any significant size let alone one to bring down a nine (9) story federal building and kill 168 persons. In fact, not even members of the left-wing militant groups such as the Weatherman were ever able to accomplish anything of this magnitude.

This terrorist attack was "contracted out" to persons whose organization and ideology was friendly to policies of the foreign power and included dislike and hatred of the United States government itself, and possibly included was a desire for revenge against the United States, with possible anti-black and anti-semitic overtones. Because Iraq had tried a similar approach in 1990, but had been thwarted by Syrian intelligence information given to the United States, this time the information was passed through an Iraqi intelligence base in the Philippines.

Operating out of the Philippines as a base, the state-sponspored [sic] terrorists, with the Murrah Building already chosen as the target, enlisted the support and assistance of members of the Radical American Right. The defense believes the evidence suggests that American neo-Nazis were chosen to carry out the bombing of the Murrah Building because of a shared ideological bent of hatred against the American government. It is possible that those who carried out the bombing were unaware of the true sponsor.

The evidence collected by the defense suggests that the desired ideology was found by the state-sponsored terrorists in Elohim City, Oklahoma, a small compound near Muldrow, Oklahoma, consisting of between 25 and 30 families and described as a terrorist organization which preaches white supremacy, polygamy and overthrow of the government. Elohim City was a haven for former members of The Covenant, The Sword and the Arm of the Lord ("CSA"), another extremist organization that had been raided by the federal government on April 19, 1995, exactly ten years to the day prior to the Oklahoma City bombing. One member of CSA turned on the organization and testified in court at the trial of Richard Snell and others who were charged in Arkansas with sedition in that they conspired to destroy the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City with a rocket launcher in the early 1980's. Snell was convicted on unrelated capital charges and sentenced to death in Arkansas. He was executed the day of the Oklahoma City bombing--April 19, 1995--and is buried at Elohim City. It is from this group of people that the defense believes that the evidence suggests foreign, state-sponsored terrorists groomed the most radical persons associated with Elohim City and extracted monumental revenge against the federal government by destroying the Murrah Building on the day of Richard Snell's execution and the anniversary date of federal raid.

But the defense hypothesis also entails evidence, very strong evidence, that the federal government, through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms, had an informant in Elohim City, an informant who warned federal law enforcement prior to April 19, 1995, that former residents, including the former chief of security, of Elohim City were planning to "target for destruction" federal buildings in Oklahoma, including the Alfred P. Murrah Building. The defense believes this scenario is true, that is is [sic] eerily similar to the World Trade Center bombing where the FBI had an informant infiltrate the terrorist group but failed to stop that criminal act, and that, absent judicial intervention, information concerning these matters in the possession of the federal government will be forever buried.

The defense for Mr. McVeigh is not engaged in a fishing expedition. As the information set forth in this Petition demonstrates, the McVeigh defense, using resources provided to it by the district court, has conducted a wide-ranging and increasingly narrow focused investigation. But without subpoena power, without the right to take depositions, and without access to national intelligence information, the McVeigh defense can go no further.

[XBob]

71 - "we need to clean out the crooks in BOTH parties, because that is definitely why Clinton has gotten away with all of his crimes and cover-ups"

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[XBob]

87 - Sorry gang, I forgot the link for McVeigh's Mandamus:

http://freedomlaw.com/Mcveigh.htm

[XBob]

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[Nita Nupress]

Thanks, Bob! I miss so much around here now. :-(

[Nita Nupress]

I guess I should paste this here just in case someone can elaborate on it.  My reply from another thread:

 

Someone want to take a guess on what Henry Hyde is referring to in this April, 1995 House Judiciary Committee meeting?  Out of the blue, he asked Louie Freeh if anyone had "overruled his request to surveill certain terroristic targets."  This House Judiciary Committee meeting is one month after the now-declassified Gorelick "Build-a-Wall" memo and 13 days before the OKC bombing.

I'm wondering if Freeh or someone else in the FBI had submitted a FISA request for surveillance on foreigners -- foreigners who were planning a bombing in the Heartland. If this is what Henry Hyde is referring to below, that would be one reason Gorelick wrote her "Build-a-Wall" memo to Freeh and others.

Have we determined the exact motivation for Gorelick writing her March 4, 1995 memo yet? 

APRIL 6, 1995, THURSDAY
CAPITOL HILL HEARING WITH DEFENSE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL

HEARING OF THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
SUBJECT: INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM
CHAIRED BY: REPRESENTATIVE HENRY HYDE (R-IL)
PANEL II; 10:55 AM
PANEL II

WITNESSES:
ADM. WILLIAM STUDEMAN, ACTING DIR., CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
JAMIE S. GORELICK, DEP. ATTY. GEN., U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
LOUIS J. FREEH, DIRECTOR, FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
AMB. PHILIP WILCOX, COORDINATOR, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
2141 RAYBURN HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING

(snip)

REP. HYDE:  Director Freeh, has the Office of Intelligence Policy and Review overruled your request to surveill certain terroristic targets?

MR. FREEH: No, sir.

REP. HYDE: That has not happened?

MR. FREEH: Unless you can be more specific I don't know that I could answer that. But no, as far as I know, it's not.

REP. HYDE: All right, I don't think it's appropriate to be more specific, but that was something that I had heard that concerned me. If you say it didn't happen --

MR. FREEH: No, we have recently -- the Attorney General and the Deputy and myself discussed some -- not changes, but clarifying our mutual interpretation of the Attorney General's guidelines with respect to investigating terrorism cases to ensure that we are not missing anything. But other than that, I don't really have any complaints about it.

(snip)

[lainde]

bump and thanks.

[moonhawk]

"...Juilet Huddy (FNC)mentioned this AM about speaking with a commissioner about the uproar with Gorelick...she said
the reason they have to "stick together" and ride this out
(controversy),is because others on this commission would be call to account for "their" conflicts of interests?

My first reaction?...what the *ell did that mean?
..but then I thought for a minute.....no mention of who this commissioner was..(by name)..."


Someone mentioned on another thread that co-chair Lee Hamilton sponsored some or all of the legislation that came out of the Church Commission...The first group to effectively neuter much of our intelligence gathering apparatus.

Maybe that's what she was referring to.

[ladyinred]

Exactly what I have thought and read elsewhere for a very long time. The evil and damage done by the Clinton's full extent will not be known for years. Someday when we are all gone, the citizen's of this country will be appalled that we once had a President this corrupt and evil. Too bad it can't be told now, but the media protects him and his Marxist wife.

[ladyinred]

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[Eastbound]

"But the most important issue is that she should testify."

Preferably while she is still corpus.

[fire_eye]

It's apparently becoming apparent that Goerlick was the 'power' behind all the coverups

Maybe... I heard or read recently (can't remember where) that Reno was such an incompetent piece of schumer that about all she did while in orifice was to give orders to her paladins to carry out Billary's orders. Gore-Lick may have just been a droid, a functionary, a "gofor". It's sort of irrelevant since the entire gang is long overdue for a hanging, but it's worth identifying which are the perpetrators and which are the servants.

Gore-Lick's alleged manipulation of the OK City bombing and the TWA 800 investigations may have been the result of direct orders from Bill & Hitlary, via Jackboot Janet.

[AnimalLover]

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