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Oklahoma City, TWA Flight 800, and the Gorelick connection
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| 4-16-04
| Jack Cashill
Posted on 04/16/2004 2:29:43 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Vigilantcitizen
To: ravingnutter
bttt
62
posted on
04/16/2004 7:09:20 AM PDT
by
Guenevere
(..., .Press on toward the goal!)
To: backhoe
Forget the apologies, this just pisses me off!!! We were set-up as fools during that administration and now during the 911 Warren Commission hearings!! I want the truth about TWA 800 and Oklahoma City, NOW!!! Reno-Lick deserves some jailtime!!
Pray for W and The Truth
63
posted on
04/16/2004 7:18:40 AM PDT
by
bray
(Hey Yaaaawn, why don't YOU give $750,000,000 to the gummit!)
To: ravingnutter
Wow. Thanks.
To: Just mythoughts
I have wondered about WACO being the trigger, however, this wall was not limited to US intel gathering, rather all INTEL gathering.Just think of all the things that might have gotten rather dicey to handle if more INTEL Ops had put their heads together. Vince Foster. Ron Brown. Chinagate. ad infinitum
It's like computer security, you put different data bases in their own little boxes with limited access to the outside. Only the owner has a pass key to it all.
"One ring to rule them all, One ring to find them, One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them!"
65
posted on
04/16/2004 7:29:47 AM PDT
by
TigersEye
(One nation under God ....... or war.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
BTTT!
To: devolve
Clinton: I Did Not Have Sex With These Women
67
posted on
04/16/2004 7:40:02 AM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Bill Clinton's legacy:
1993 First World Trade Center bombing
1994 Waco tragedy
1995 Oklahoma City bombing
1996 TWA Flight 800
1998 Monica Lewinsky
1999 Impeachment hearings
2000 USS Cole bombing
2001 9/11
68
posted on
04/16/2004 7:41:51 AM PDT
by
wai-ming
To: Final Authority
It would be fun to pin the past on Clinton people but it doesn't solve the problem. They couldn't stop it in advance and that is where we need to concentrate, on preemption.You don't think this continuing coverup of corruption under the Clinton's direction is still harmful? One of them is a sitting Senator. Numerous appointees still reside in our government ... with their secrets to hide and their connections to China and who knows who else. Their continuing denial and coverup fuels doubt and confusion that keeps a huge base of useful idiots on their side promoting a constant erosion of the truth and the reputations of those who serve the truth. All of this is a continuing threat to our national security both foreign and domestic.
69
posted on
04/16/2004 7:43:16 AM PDT
by
TigersEye
(One nation under God ....... or war.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
..for the Vets out there, check out this thread:
Stranded Marines Fight To Last Bullets
London Times ^ | April 16, 2004 | James Hider
...and Kerry gets a medal for a scratch on his arm
Doogle
70
posted on
04/16/2004 8:40:35 AM PDT
by
Doogle
(....and the truth will set you free....depends on what you mean by truth)
To: gunnedah
You are so right....we need to clean out the crooks in BOTH parties, because that is definitely why Clinton has gotten away with all of his crimes and cover-ups.......Mutually assured destruction aka "scorched earth".
71
posted on
04/16/2004 9:07:41 AM PDT
by
MamaLucci
(Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
To: MamaLucci
Whoa.....what the heck is that all about?
72
posted on
04/16/2004 9:09:31 AM PDT
by
MamaLucci
(Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Bump.
To: aruanan
It really is obvious that the Clinton administration was nothing less than a global criminal syndicate. I have been wondering about the date of the Gorelick memo that was declassified. I couldn't find a date on the document that was posted.
74
posted on
04/16/2004 9:15:36 AM PDT
by
Eva
To: Oldeconomybuyer
FWIW, a little factoid from
this link. From the link:
Ms. Wilkinson's legal career began in the office of the Army General Counsel where, as a Captain, she worked on the prosecution of Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega. She then spent four years as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Eastern District of New York, where she was responsible for the prosecution of fraud, RICO and narcotics cases. In 1995, she returned to Washington as Counsel to then Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick. At the Department of Justice, Ms. Wilkinson also advised the Attorney General and other Administration officials on criminal matters. Within three months of being promoted to the position of Principal Deputy for the Terrorism and Violent Crime Section of the Criminal Division, Ms. Wilkinson was hand picked to serve on the Oklahoma City prosecution team.
Interesting co-incidence.
75
posted on
04/16/2004 9:15:51 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: XBob
I didn't gather much on Oklahoma City because OKCSubmariner and others were all over it, but there is a lot on TWA800 on the DSL.
One important fact is that Samir Ferrat was supposed to be on Ron Brown's plane but didn't go and instead died in TWA800. The FBI immediately identified him and then just as immediately stopped investigating him.
The other major thing going on at this time was the foreign campaign financing which may have been a factor in raising the "wall".
Downside Legacy
To: Alamo-Girl
Bump for reading later.
77
posted on
04/16/2004 9:25:50 AM PDT
by
Amntn
To: Alamo-Girl
One important fact is that Samir Ferrat was supposed to be on Ron Brown's plane but didn't go and instead died in TWA800. I hadn't heard that before. So many dots, so much connecting to do.
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posted on
04/16/2004 9:26:29 AM PDT
by
TigersEye
(One nation under God ....... or war.)
To: TigersEye; Amntn
A few tidbits on Samir Ferrat:
5/27/98 AP Zurich The Guardian (London) pg 19 Freepers Wallaby & icwhatudo ".POLICE are investigating the possibility that insurance fraud by a Swiss resident listed among the 230 people killed in the TWA Flight 800 explosion might have been behind the disaster, Swiss television reported last night. Swiss authorities have been investigating Algerian-born Mohammmed Samir Ferrat, for 18 months, the report said. ..A Geneva lawyer, Gerald Page, alleged in an interview for the Swiss television report that Ferrat took out life insurance policies worth several million Swiss francs in the weeks before the plane crashed in July 1996, half an hour after taking off from New York
. On August 19, a month after the crash, the local medical examiner in Suffolk County - in whose jurisdiction the disaster occurred - declared that Mohammed Ferrat had been positively identified as a dead passenger from TWA Flight 800. US investigators counted him out as a suspect early.. The report showed footage of the late US commerce secretary, Ron Brown, at the Washington signing with Ferrat of a pounds 62.5 million contract between Sofin and the US construction firm Chatwick Inc, which was to build residences in the Ivory Coast. Chatwick spent pounds 2.5 million on the project before halting it, the television said.." Background from icwhatudo ".According to a CNN international report, Mohamed Samir Ferrat, an Algerian business associate of Secretary Brown, who was scheduled to accompany Brown on the Bosnian trip but withdrew at the last moment for reasons still unclear, died July 17, on the ill fated TWA Flight 800. Ferrat was initially treated by the FBI as a suspected terrorist in the TWA Flight 800 explosion because he was the sole passenger on the flight roster listed only by last name. The FBI, within hours of beginning their investigation of Ferrat, oddly withdrew, telling the New York Times that "Ferrat was not at all the kind of person to take a bomb on a plane. Nor was he a likely target of a bomb plot." BROWN'S ASSOCIATE DIED ON TWA 800 http://www.usvetdsp.com/usvet/story23.htm According to a CNN international report, Mohamed Samir Ferrat, an Algerian business associate of Secretary Brown, who was scheduled to accompany Brown on the Bosnian trip but withdrew at the last moment for reasons still unclear, died July 17, on the ill fated TWA Flight 800. Ferrat was initially treated by the FBI as a suspected terrorist in the TWA Flight 800 explosion because he was the sole passenger on the flight roster listed only by last name. The FBI, within hours of beginning their investigation of Ferrat, oddly withdrew, telling the New York Times that "Ferrat was not at all the kind of person to take a bomb on a plane. Nor was he a likely target of a bomb plot. U.S. government investigators have yet to determine whether missile, bomb or mechanical failure brought TWA 800 down, killing all 230 passengers and crew. "Ferrat, it turned out," the New York Times said, "was a wealthy and highly respected businessman, money manager and investor with offices and residences in the Ivory Coast, France and Switzerland . . . FBI agents learned all this without questioning Ferrat's family, friends or business associates, many of whom were gathered in their grief at the family hotel in Virginia." One source, who asked not to be identified, suggested the FBI cleared Ferrat quickly because they either learned of his connection to Secretary Brown or Ferrat may have been on the payroll of U.S. intelligence, possibly the CIA. Ferrat was also involved with Chadwick International Inc., a northern Virginia company that exports modular homes. Chadwick, Inc., founded in 1991, got its start, according to its chairman Ronald M. Nocera, by Ferrat arranging meetings with real estate contacts in Algeria. Nocera said Chadwick, Inc. currently holds or is negotiating deals worth $560 million with developers from Argentina to Vietnam.
To: Alamo-Girl
I think that the wall was strengthened in an effort to reign in multiple investigations into the global crime syndicate that defined the Clinton administration, including both the commerce dept and the Chinese campaign donations, which were actually intertwined.
Intelligence Coup By Red China (from Ted Sampley's web site)
London's Sunday Times reported November 10, 1996, that the fund raising scandal "appears to have been a stunning intelligence coup by China."
The Sunday Times said Chinese agents were able to "take advantage of lax security procedures and a pattern of corruption in the Clinton administration" to gain "advanced knowledge of America's negotiating positions in trade and economic talks as well as access trade deals subsidized by America."
Chinese born John Huang, who became a naturalized American citizen after coming to the U.S. in 1969, was given a July 1994 appointment to a U.S. Commerce Department post with direct access to President Bill Clinton and a "Top Secret" clearance.
The Sunday Times reported that on the personal instructions of Sec. Brown, "Huang was given topsecret security clearance without background checks by the FBI or the state department's Office of Security a strict requirement for somebody born in a foreign country."
Sixteen months later, Huang left Commerce to become the Democratic National Committee's fundraising vice chairman.
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posted on
04/16/2004 9:53:49 AM PDT
by
Eva
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