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Lab Tests Could Link Saddam's Missing WMDs to Jordan Plot
NewsMax.com ^ | 4/21/04 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 04/20/2004 11:45:19 PM PDT by kattracks

Laboratory tests on the poison gas smuggled from Syria into Jordan by al Qaeda terrorists earlier this month could determine whether their weapons came from Iraq, intelligence expert John Loftus said Monday.

"What they captured was a poison gas that consisted of several chemicals to be mixed together," Loftus told nationally syndicated radio host John Batchelor. "This has to be a poison gas of what they call the G-series; Sarin, Somin, Taubin and VX."

The terrorism expert noted that, "VX is the only kind of nerve gas where the chemicals could be safely mixed together in the field."

On Saturday, Jordanian officials announced that they had seized WMD components from the cars of the al Qaeda terror plotters, which had been intercepted just 75 miles from the Syrian border. Experts said that had the WMD plot succeeded, it could have killed 20,000.

Jordan's King Abdullah confirmed that the al Qaeda vehicles had come from Syria,

Noted Loftus:

"Syria dopes not make VX nerve gas - only Saddam Hussein did. So it looks as if now that Israeli intelligence and British intelligence were right - that Syria did indeed get a hold of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction just before the war."

Loftus said lab tests of the al Qaeda weapons would be key to establishing a link between the WMDs found in Jordan and Saddam's missing stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; iraq; jordan; syria; wmd
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1 posted on 04/20/2004 11:45:20 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: Cap Huff; Dog; swarthyguy
FYI
2 posted on 04/20/2004 11:49:59 PM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: kattracks
I've been following this story and Loftus is the only one mentioning the possibility of VX gas so far.
3 posted on 04/20/2004 11:53:11 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: JohnHuang2; Howlin; Ernest_at_the_Beach; MJY1288; Jeff Head; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; PhiKapMom; ...
ping
4 posted on 04/20/2004 11:56:22 PM PDT by kayak (Only you can stop FReepathons. Become a monthly donor.)
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To: kattracks
How long can it take to do the tests?

Could this be why the King had to high-tail it back to Jordan today?
5 posted on 04/20/2004 11:57:46 PM PDT by rickylc
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To: kattracks
Why is evidence of WMD in Syria suppressed? "No (new) war in 2004"?
6 posted on 04/20/2004 11:59:46 PM PDT by eclectic
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To: eclectic
I don't really think it is. The WMD which Israel believes they have on satellite photos - has never been corroberated. Without that, we just don't know for sure. And .. because it's such a hot issue - I really don't think the Bush admin would keep such a revelation quiet.
7 posted on 04/21/2004 12:38:57 AM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: rickylc
good guess.

this may be considered PART of a series of attacks on Jordan, by syria via their proxywar terrorist infiltrators, that were to occur while the king was out of the country with our president.
all the more reason for him to get back home and keep an eye on developments for the next 48 hours or so.

the feeling is, this was probably tip of the iceberg.
Jordan is at relative peace with israel.
Jordan trades with israel.
Jordan gets water from israel.
Jordan does coordinate some security issues with Israel.]
Jordan also acknowledges Israel's right to exist... etc.

no wonder syria wants Jordan destabilized.
Israel will not take lightly a threat against one of the few arab nations that want peace with them, and have worked towards it faithfully.

Syria is due for a bombing run.
So is Iran.
8 posted on 04/21/2004 1:04:53 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
The pot's about to boil over it seems.

I've been aware of all the reasons you posted, but never listed them all together like that.

Quite an impressive list of reasons to make Jordan a target.

Israel seems to have an itchy trigger finger now too. I bet they would be more than happy to take care of a few folks residing in Syria.

They've been winning at the game of Whack-a-Mullah lately

:)
9 posted on 04/21/2004 1:17:34 AM PDT by rickylc
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Syria needs to get out of Lebaon, and they may need a little help there.
10 posted on 04/21/2004 2:06:41 AM PDT by tessalu
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Lab Tests Could Link Saddam's Missing WMDs to Jordan Plot

Oh, yeah ! I heard David Gold talking about this yesterday on local radio 990 AM. I forget the Colonel's name (McInnerny - sp?) he had on his show JUST before the guy was going to appear on Brit Hume's Special Report.

He said that we needed to take the war to Syria and Iran. He said we could take care of Syria in FOUR DAYS.

Great show yesterday, Davidtalker ! ;^) I listened to it on the way from my Dad's house in Quitman, Tx. About 75 miles east of Dallas. It was loud and clear - BETTER than 820 AM WBAP !


11 posted on 04/21/2004 3:11:29 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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Freeper David Gold Returns To DFW Airwaves


12 posted on 04/21/2004 3:18:17 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: tessalu
Speaking of Syria ....



13 posted on 04/21/2004 3:25:17 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Become a monthly donor on FR. No amount is too small and monthly giving is the way to go !)
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To: kattracks
intelligence expert John Loftus said Monday.

I wonder where Loftus got that designation? I thought he was a professional broadcaster, though I'll admit he's a sharp guy with some impressive connections.

I'd just can't see where many of his theories have panned out over the years.

14 posted on 04/21/2004 3:44:28 AM PDT by Woahhs (America is an idea, not an address)
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To: MeekOneGOP
McInnerny and Vallely were on Hannity's show last week. They just wrote a book, called Endgame.

Transcript:

ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: For more on the situation in Iraq we're joined by Fox News military analyst Lieutenant General Tom McInerney and Major General Paul Vallely who have written a new book called "Endgame: The Blueprint for Victory in the War on Terror," a fascinating book whether we agree or disagree. A well-written book.

Let me ask you, you lay out eight nations that we have to focus upon here?

MAJ. GEN. PAUL VALLELY, U.S. ARMY (RET.): That's right. Correct. Those eight nations are the web of terror, what we call the web of evil. These are the nation states, for decades now, that have been sourcing, funding, giving support for training, and the proliferation of terrorists throughout some 50 some countries now.

COLMES: You make the point, also, that al Qaeda (search) is, General McInerney, is housed by states. You need nation states -- they need nation states in order to get the resources they need.

And so this is not about some random group of people floating around the world. These are nation states involved with it?

GEN. TOM MCINERNEY, "ENDGAME" AUTHOR: Yes, Alan. When people say go after al Qaeda, no one asks them, well where is al Qaeda? Al Qaeda is in 50 different states, nations.

Eight key nations, which we talked about: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and North Korea, are the key enabling states. If they cooperate with us, terrorism withers.

COLMES: And if they don't -- you have a plan of attack, and I use that word broadly, whether it's done economically or whether it's done through negotiations or militarily.

You actually come up with a plan of military attack for countries like Syria, where you say if they don't cooperate, if they don't expel terror groups and give up Iraq's WMDs, which you think are there, we should topple their regime?

VALLELY: They need to be removed. And of course, there are a number of different ways to do that but you take Syria and Iran right now. Those regimes either have to comply. Or they're defiant.

And if they're defiant the world community has to deal with them because they are destabilizing the entire Middle East (search) and the world. And so you have different strategies and that's what a blueprint for victory is, coming up with an endgame strategy that's going to terminate the activities of these states that are sponsoring terrorism.

COLMES: General McInerney, you talk about going to North Korea and getting in line with South Korea and you have an attack plan for North Korea, if they don't want to cooperate. And you're pretty bold about it. You're talking about a war with North Korea (search)?

MCINERNEY: Absolutely. North Korea is an easier campaign for us in Iraq, because the distances are much closer. I worked 11 years on war plans in South Korea and watched them build those hardened artillery sites. We don't want them to do it.

But they must understand that we can take military action and take them in 30 to 60 days. Jim Woolsey and I wrote an article in the "Wall Street Journal" and pointed that out. We have to worry about the nukes.

SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: We have to worry about the nukes?

MCINERNEY: Their nukes but if you preempt them, and that's the key thing, in our strategy, it's preemption against North Korea, but they must understand that we're willing to do that.

And that's why negotiating with China and the other members is so crucial.

HANNITY: Let me first applaud both of you. "Endgame: The Blueprint for Victory in the War on Terror," this is a great book, folks. This is what it is.

What's troublesome to me is, in the political sense, the president has a problem. I love what the president has done in Iraq and what he's done for the war on terror. And I think we're only really beginning, as you point out -- there are other nations we're going to have to deal with in the future, evil names, regimes.

But then you have people like Ted Kennedy (search) doing the bidding for John Kerry (search) in a political season, using the term Vietnam, terms like quagmire, politicizing the war, does it render a president impotent, to get the job done?

MCINERNEY: No, but it is absolutely aiding and abetting. It is disgraceful to use those kind of words.

My first tour in Vietnam of four, President Kennedy was there. The next two was President Johnson. We should not politicize this.

HANNITY: But we have, haven't we?

MCINERNEY: We have, and that is disgraceful.

VALLELY: It absolutely is. When you talk to those soldiers over there and they hear this from the likes of a Kennedy, who never served, by the way, doesn't understand what war is but talks a lot about it, that they politicize this to the point that we have to make -- make the world and the entire world understand, that is a world war, and we have to win it.

HANNITY: This is point I've been trying to make. Evil is existing in the world and in a way that we never imagined, when you factor in the technology, technological advances and weapons of mass destruction.

The whole configuration of world peace has changed, and if we don't win these wars, we have to defeat the enemy. Isn't that the point you're making here?

VALLELY: Well, one of the chapters we talked about are the nightmares, Sean. These are the worst things that can happen. And they are building towards nuclear weapons, more than dirty bombs that could simultaneously be detonated in maybe six, eight, 10 cities in the United States simultaneously. What does that do to the world?

HANNITY: 9/11 is a preview of coming attractions? Isn't it?

VALLELY: That's exactly right. That's why it's important that the fight is going on over there. And they cannot let Iraq be successful. That's why what is going on now is to...

HANNITY: So the president has to risk losing and finish the job there, risk losing an election, risk letting Kerry politicize all of this, because it is pivotal we win this thing?

MCINERNEY: Or it will be here.

VALLELY: That's right.

MCINERNEY: We either do it there and get these nations to cooperate.

COLMES: Good luck with the book. Thank you, sir.

15 posted on 04/21/2004 3:58:34 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: kattracks
Not ONE major media outlet will report this.
16 posted on 04/21/2004 4:00:38 AM PDT by rintense (Now I know why liberals hate guns... they keep shooting themselves in the foot!)
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To: Woahhs
Wooops! Sorry, the guy I'm thinking of is John Loeffler.
17 posted on 04/21/2004 4:53:50 AM PDT by Woahhs (America is an idea, not an address)
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To: kattracks
How long is the liberal media going to ignore this?
18 posted on 04/21/2004 4:55:16 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus
How long is the liberal media going to ignore this?

Whatever you do, don't hold your breath. The media will never report this until after the elections. Then, they will give credit to f'ing and the RATs.

19 posted on 04/21/2004 5:07:38 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (A vote for kerry or any other RAT, is a vote for the terrorists.)
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To: MeekOneGOP
in tears!
20 posted on 04/21/2004 5:12:06 AM PDT by olde north church (The opposite of authoritarianism isn't Libertarianism, it's anarachy.)
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