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Most sportsmen I know don't see the need to get worked up over New York State Assembly legislation that would ban the sale and ownership of a .50-caliber gun.

and that is the biggest problem right there this is how a country with a gaurenteed right to own firearms ends up having 20 000 laws outlawing fireamrs and no ione gets pissed enough to try to get them off the books until it is waaaaaaay to late voter apathy is more dangerous then a liberal majority any day

1 posted on 04/23/2004 12:28:58 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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The ONLY reason they want to pass this law is to further demonize and isolate another less popular firearm. Sooner or later they want them ALL, including black powder 200 year old muzzle loaders.
2 posted on 04/23/2004 12:34:10 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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3 posted on 04/23/2004 12:37:19 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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4 posted on 04/23/2004 12:38:58 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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6 posted on 04/23/2004 12:46:17 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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Thanks for posting this article. You saved me the trouble. Where did the author get the idea it's modern, weighs 50 lbs and is single shot?
7 posted on 04/23/2004 12:47:08 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: freepatriot32
This is incrementalism plain and simple. Just imagine if this piece of crap legislation were to pass, then substitute whatever firearm you own in the following sentence:

"[your_gun_here] guns have no legitimate purpose, and to keep them legal is supporting keeping them legal for terrorists and others," Silver told the Associated Press.
8 posted on 04/23/2004 12:47:40 PM PDT by PointRight
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To: freepatriot32
The 50 caliber.

It's not just for snipers anymore.

Is that a S&W .50 in your pocket? Or are you just happy to see me?

9 posted on 04/23/2004 12:50:30 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
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This stupid bill was created by liberal morons who know nothing about guns and it's caliber. 12.7x99 BMG (.50 BMG) is a deadly round that was designed to penetrate tank armor. Guns like the Barrett M82A1 are very heavy and I seriously doubt anyone would want to carry it around, especially since you can't hide it. When is the last time anyone was killed by a wannabe gang-banger with a massive Barrett?
14 posted on 04/23/2004 12:59:46 PM PDT by Chinese_American_Patriot (9/11/01 - Never Forget, NEVER Forgive!!!! Al-Fallujah, Iraq. The home of savage Islamofacists!!!!)
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I am so sick of hearing "hunting" and the "second amendment " mentioned in the same place. Like if they have something to do with each other - lame!

And suppose there is a ban on these rifles. Is it for future sales or is it for anyone that currently owns one? Do they have to turn in they're $2,000 -$10,000+ investment.
16 posted on 04/23/2004 1:05:13 PM PDT by ezo4
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[Assemblywoman Patricia Eddington] was 17 years a social worker in public schools

That alone should have disqualified her from being a political representative.

[Eddington's] motivation comes from awful discussions about kids bringing guns to school.

Yes, I'm sure there were many kids discussing how they were going to go out and spend $10,000 on a .50 cal rifle to shoot up the school.

As far as the "terrorist" angle goes, even if a terrorist wanted to use one of these rifles (which is unlikely), what makes anyone think that they won't be able to obtain one illegally? Hell, they could have hundreds of these rifles--along with more deadly weapons and munitions--walked across the Mexican border with their comrades. Laws only apply to the law-abiding.

20 posted on 04/23/2004 1:30:30 PM PDT by SpyGuy
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"...ammo as hard to find as a unicorn's toenail, the .50 cal is an exotic."

You gotta be kidding me.
21 posted on 04/23/2004 1:35:54 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• © • ™ • ® •)
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Would this .50 caliber and above ban apply to historic re-enactments? Afterall, the flint lock rifles our colonial militiamen carried (which was their household hunting rifle) were typically around .75 caliber!

This says it all. There is a bill in the New York Assembly that, if enacted 250 years ago, would have deprived colonials of their rifles, prevented them from winning the battle of Saratoga, and likely cost the United States the war and its freedom. And afterwards, the American leaders would have been hanged for treason by the British. In short, the bill, if enacted 250 years ago, would have sent Sam and John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Patrick Henry, Benjamin Rush, Alexander Hamilton, etc to the gallows.
22 posted on 04/23/2004 1:37:27 PM PDT by bobjam
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To: freepatriot32
with ammo as hard to find as a unicorn's toenail, the .50 cal is an exotic.

Author is right, that was hard to find < /sarcasm >

50 BMG Ammo on the web

23 posted on 04/23/2004 1:37:32 PM PDT by thackney (Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer)
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Geeezzz, Most terrorist per-fer the Russian made rifles. I will not mention any type as not to give any liberal an idea. The also per-fer other type of weapons like RPG, bombs, airplanes, etc. I glad she not trying to ban any of these weapons. That would really suck. Not being able to fly in NY. The conservative should really complain that airplanes are not part of the ban.
24 posted on 04/23/2004 1:45:02 PM PDT by Warlord David
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Hey, calm down. It's just .50.
Hey, calm down. It's just .45.
Hey, calm down....
27 posted on 04/23/2004 1:49:32 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/index.html)
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To: freepatriot32
"Most sportsmen I know don't see the need to get worked up over New York State Assembly legislation that would ban the sale and ownership of a .50-caliber gun."

0.50 ... 0.49 ... 0.48 ... 0.47 ... 0.46 ... 0.45

just a few short steps.
28 posted on 04/23/2004 1:49:54 PM PDT by snooker
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To: freepatriot32
1.) Hunting has nothing to do with the second amendment.
2.) The strategy here is clear. It is a matter of divide and conquer. Divide guns into different categories, such as assult rifles (which is a cosmetic classification), and then ban. Now they are working on caliber of weapons (which is a size calssification). Sorry to say this, you can just killed by a .22 or a .50 and you are just as dead. If the .50 cal ban works, they will attack from the other end. Start with paintball guns and work up. There is already a lot of legistlation on the books for paintball guns, bb-guns, air-guns, etc. and it is growing. All based on, "You'll shoot your eye out" type logic. So as things are being squeezed from both ends, they will finally get to a .308 - which guess what, is a typical sniper weapon.

From my cold dead hands!!!
30 posted on 04/23/2004 1:52:52 PM PDT by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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Check this out. http://www.antipersonnel.net/fmco/012.html
42 posted on 04/23/2004 3:32:27 PM PDT by NYTexan ( Liberalism: finding ways to spend other peoples money!)
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