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CONTROVERSIAL COFFIN PIX INCLUDE SHUTTLE HEROES
New York Post ^ | 4/24/04 | LEONARD GREENE

Posted on 04/23/2004 11:58:25 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:21:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

April 24, 2004 -- The release of flag-draped coffin photos supposedly of American soldiers killed in Iraq turned into an uproar yesterday when it was revealed the pictures include images of the remains of Columbia space-shuttle astronauts and casualties from Afghanistan.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: casketcontroversy; chickennoodlenews; coffincontroversy; doverafb

1 posted on 04/23/2004 11:58:25 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"This ... is CNN"
2 posted on 04/24/2004 12:04:48 AM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: kattracks
Obviously they don't support efforts in space either - another pet project of Bush. They'd rather spend the money on more programs to enslave people.
3 posted on 04/24/2004 12:09:03 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: kattracks
I realize the court did not rule on the photos of the coffins, but I find it interesting that we can't get the photos of Vince Foster released due to concerns for his family, but when it comes to our dead troops, the pictures are vitally important for the public to see, screw the sensitivities of their families.
4 posted on 04/24/2004 12:16:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: kattracks
I don't seem to remember any newspapers filing briefs in support of Alan Favish' efforts to get Foster photos released. I guess not all photos are vitally important to show the public.
5 posted on 04/24/2004 12:17:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: kattracks
Oopsie!...Their rush to grovel in an obscene orgy of death, for disgusting partisan gain, has dissolved into just another case of sloppy journalism.
6 posted on 04/24/2004 12:29:20 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: kattracks
How about a little perspective. Lets show the coffins of all Americans who have died within the last couple of weeks from accidents and foul play. The military loses would make up a miniscule corner of the total. People die every day; they die while driving to work, and while at work. Yes, we honor our soldiers for dedication, but are our firemen, police officer, construction workers, or parents on their way to pick up their kids, any less dedicated? For all we know our troops are actually safer while fighting this war then they would be at home.
7 posted on 04/24/2004 1:15:24 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: DoughtyOne
I realize the court did not rule on the photos of the coffins, but I find it interesting that we can't get the photos of Vince Foster released due to concerns for his family, but when it comes to our dead troops, the pictures are vitally important for the public to see, screw the sensitivities of their families.

Of course, lest we forget, the pictures of 9/11 also were not "virtually important" for the public to see.

Of course I won't personally place a reason on this being the case for I know that political bias doesn't exist in the media.

8 posted on 04/24/2004 1:27:31 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: kattracks
nope, no left-wing agenda here-move along.....
9 posted on 04/24/2004 1:32:16 AM PDT by fly_so_free (Never under estimate the treachery of the democrat party-Save USA vote a dem out of office)
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To: kattracks
And the lies continue......this morning on WABC radio I heard the newsbabe say that Pat Tillman was killed in Iraq.

No, he was killed in Afghanistan.

10 posted on 04/24/2004 4:29:02 AM PDT by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: DoughtyOne
Foster photos are not released to perpetuate the coverup of the "movement"of his empty vessel to the park.
11 posted on 04/24/2004 4:31:02 AM PDT by Diogenesis (We do what we are meant to do)
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To: kattracks
Media Bias???

We don't need no steeeenkin bias!!

The media has gone over the top.

With the economy picking up, the ONLY thing that will derail a Bush re-election is a huge pile of dead Americans in Iraq. The Democrats and their leaders, the Socialists are depending on things to get worse.

Rather than wait for that to happen, they are spurring it on by sending messages via CNN to the enemy..."We are ready for you to send us the dead bodies now.. we have the cameras rolling!!"

Remember Somalia!!!


12 posted on 04/24/2004 5:25:36 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: kattracks
If CNN wants to get people whipped up, maybe they can run the video of two jets going into the Twin Towers... oh yeah.. they decided that was too traumatic for people to see....
13 posted on 04/24/2004 5:27:31 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: ARCADIA
About 14,000 men, women and children become victims of homicide per year. That's the population of a decent sized city. According to BJS stats 45% of them are committed by some one on probation and parole...i.e. under government supervision. I think the auto accidents is 30,000 or more per year. Don't know what the DUI is.
14 posted on 04/24/2004 6:01:14 AM PDT by GailA (Kerry I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, but I'll declare a moratorium on the death penalty)
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To: ARCADIA
1999 Fatalities Were Lowest Since 1982

ABOUT.COM

Alcohol-related traffic deaths decreased in 1999 to the fewest since record-keeping began in 1982, but still accounted for more than one-third of all U.S. traffic fatalities.

In 1998, 15,935 people died and 305,000 were injured in alcohol-related traffic crashes in the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's reported in the December 3, 1999 issue of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

The number of fatal motor-vehicle crashes involving alcohol decreased by just under two percent between 1997 to 1998 -- but far short of the target of 5.8 percent decrease the CDC wants to meet national health objectives for 2000.

In Perspective

Although alcohol-related deaths have declined steadily over the past 15 years, 1999 Mothers Against Drunk Driving president Karolyn Nunnallee said the statistics show that Americans have "become complacent about the drunk driving issue."

Nunnallee put the 15,935 deaths into perspective this way, "When one person is killed every 33 minutes in this country -- that's the equivalent of two jumbo jets crashing and all the occupants perishing each week. If that happened in this country, the American public would be up in arms -- every airplane on the planet would be grounded."

"Drunk driving is the most frequently-committed violent crime in this country," she told Reuters Health. "It's something that the nation must get serious about and stay serious about."

15 posted on 04/24/2004 6:07:29 AM PDT by GailA (Kerry I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, but I'll declare a moratorium on the death penalty)
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To: Jeremiah Jr; 2sheep; InvisibleChurch; AnnaZ; Sir Gawain; BearWash; hellinahandcart

This undated NASA (news - web sites) handout image obtained 26 August, 2003
shows the crew of the space shuttle Columbia, STS-107. Images of the coffins
of the dead astronauts from the Columbia disaster got mixed in with some of the
pictures splashed across US newspapers of military dead being returned from Iraq
(
news - web sites).(AFP/HO/NASA)

A "confusion by mixing", as it were.

0894 Babel {baw-bel'}
from 01101; TWOT - 197; n pr loc
AV - Babylon 257, Babylonian + 01121 3, Babel 2; 262

Babel or Babylon = "confusion (by mixing)"
1) Babel or Babylon, the ancient site and/or capital of
Babylonia (modern Hillah) situated on the Euphrates

16 posted on 04/24/2004 7:17:23 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: OldFriend
I had to correct a lib at work on the same zone of conflict. They are programmed.
17 posted on 04/24/2004 7:19:50 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: FreeAtlanta
To the libs, ignorance is bliss.....or is it they intentionally lie....
18 posted on 04/24/2004 7:35:16 AM PDT by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: ARCADIA
"How about a little perspective. Lets show the coffins of all Americans who have died within the last couple of weeks from accidents and foul play. The military loses would make up a miniscule corner of the total. People die every day; they die while driving to work, and while at work. Yes, we honor our soldiers for dedication, but are our firemen, police officer, construction workers, or parents on their way to pick up their kids, any less dedicated? For all we know our troops are actually safer while fighting this war then they would be at home."

It's the same with Irish peacekeepers out in Lebanon, as far as I know more have died through accidents, than through military action.
19 posted on 04/24/2004 9:37:56 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (The EU's new motto; War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
"How about a little perspective. Lets show the coffins of all Americans who have died within the last couple of weeks from accidents and foul play. The military loses would make up a miniscule corner of the total. People die every day; they die while driving to work, and while at work.

While I don't think the media is going overboard with the coffins yet, your point is correct -- let's not stop driving cars and let's not stop fighting the terrorists.

If I may add to your point, let's show videos of live abortions. At least in that case, we'll be helping to illustrate something that is clearly wrong.

20 posted on 04/24/2004 10:03:24 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Diogenesis
And that's probably the least of it.
21 posted on 04/24/2004 1:58:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: ARCADIA
Your absolutely right! Just ask MADD. People driving under the influence and having a good time kill more people on our highways. We just had a tragic accident last week. Our neighbor kids were drag racing with another car and they T-Boned another car coming out from another road. Impact speed about 100 mph. Our neighbors car was totally smashed. The 17 year old driver was DUI and broke his leg. His passenger's were not so fortunate. One passenger is still in a coma and might be paralyized. The 16 year old was crushed in the back seat and he died hours later. The driver is being charged with man slaughter. And we worry about the war dead in Iraq? Over 17,000 people were killed by drunk/drugged drivers last year alone in this country!
22 posted on 04/24/2004 3:35:50 PM PDT by Milligan
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