Kerry reaffirms rights to Receive Holy Communion Paterson, NJ Bishop Rodimer Agrees

The Record of Hackensack, aka The Bergen Record ^ | 04.24.04

[maryz]

Come, come, there's no need to mince words. (You really didn't, did you?)

[maryz]

Then what does he do when the Paulist Center gives Kerry communion anyway? Which they will. With full press coverage.

This already happened two weeks ago, at Easter Mass.

O'Malley made a general statement that pro-abort politicians who are self-styled Catholics should refrain from Communion. What I meant in my comment is what would happen if O'Malley ordered (if he can order the Paulists in that sense) that Communion was to be withheld from Kerry. The Paulists would go right on giving it, I'm sure.

[maryz]

Certainly someone as influential as John Kerry would be given an exception by God, don't you think?

Surely the ultimate "Do You know who I am?"

[BlessedBeGod]

Frank Rodimer.

Heretic.

[BlessedBeGod]

He called ahead to make sure there wouldn't be any problems with him taking Communion?!? Jeeze, evidence the whole thing was set up...

LOL, wouldn't want him to be embarassed during a photo op now, would we?

[ladyjane]

>> I don't remember any nuanced, flip-flopping over moral issues when I was in school.

You must be as old as I am

But if you were around five hundred years ago you might remember some flip-flopping. Remember the story about the indulgences? It wasn't the poor people buying them. It was people like Kerry and Kennedy. The church needs people like this. They've got a lot of real estate to take care of. The Cardinal's house just sold for 90+million dollars! Who bought it? Another Catholic institution. A lot of flip-flops.

[gemoftheocean]

Come, come, there's no need to mince words. (You really didn't, did you?)

You should have seen the FIRST draft. ;-D Really, doesn't this idiot bishop realize that he is "teaching" whether he wants to or not? What would a person considering joining the catholic faith think of this bishop? If I were a person "searching" I'd think: "well, for all this bishop says that the Eucharist is the true presence, and people ought to be in a state of grace before they receive it and ought not to be abortion supporters, he still says it's okay for Kerry to receive, so it must not REALLY be the body and blood of Christ. If something supposedly so important can be waived for political situtations, then it mustn't have much real meaning." Move along....maybe the Jehovah's Witnesses have the answer....

I've "had it" with candy-a$$ed bishops. [Can you say "candy-a$$ed" on freerepublic?]

[Conservative til I die]

I'm in agreement with you. The Paulists would ignore the Bishop, relishing the chance to make a political statement out of the issue.

[maryz]

You haven't been on FR long, but I don't know how long you've been lurking. If you did much on Catholic threads, you're probably familiar with the saying, variously attributed (to Chrystostom and others), that "The floors of Hell are paved with the skulls of bishops." I guess it's not a new problem.

[maryz]

relishing the chance to make a political statement out of the issue.

Probably salivating over the prospect. I suspect they were disappointed not to have the chance -- this time around anyway.

[Coleus]

He's probably friends with this monsignor who happens to be one of his priests.

NJ Catholic priest was so appalled by Mel Gibson's "The Passion of The Christ'' that he described the film as "religious barbarism.'' "I saw it as religious barbarism ... in my opinion, God did not send his son to die,''

The Gospel of Mel Gibson

[Coleus]

Bishop Rodimer and Congressman Bill Pascrell, D-8, belong to the same Knights of Columbus Council and are good friends who support each other. Bill votes for abortion and against Catholic Hospitals and gets away with it every time.

NJ, Catholic, Pro-Abortion/Pro-homosexual Congressman invited to Palm Sunday Communion Breakfast

Bill Pascrell pro-life record 30%

Bill Pascrell's Homseual Rights Record, 100% Page 7

Bill Pascrell's NARAL Record, 71%, Page 12, NARAL needs to check their math

Catholic Family Association's scorecard on Bill Pascrell

NJ Voting Record Scorecard, 1999-2000, 25% pro life

[workerbee]

But Frances Kissling, president of Catholics for a Free Choice, USA, said statements such as Arinze's "debase the political campaign" and would only isolate the church from its U.S. members, most of whom she said support abortion rights.....She added: "Do they really want to tell Senators (Edward) Kennedy, (Barbara) Mikulski, (Patrick) Leahy and 70 other members of the U.S. Congress that they can't receive Communion?

As a matter of fact, YES, you stupid media whore! And while we're on the subject, why don't you crawl back to whatever abortion fundraiser you came from and stop misrepresenting yourself as speaking for Catholic Americans! I am SICK TO DEATH of seeing this woman given press coverage as if she were some authority figure!

[Coleus]

Has she been excommunicated?

[m4629]

Has she been excommunicated?

Yes, she did it herself, ipso facto, as a public and material Heretic.

Can. 1364 §1 An apostate from the faith, a heretic or a schismatic incurs a latae sententiae excommunication, without prejudice to the provision of Can. 194 §1, n. 2; a cleric, moreover, may be punished with the penalties mentioned in Can. 1336 §1, nn. 1, 2 and 3.

[cricket]

"Bishop Rodimer and Congressman Bill Pascrell, D-8, belong to the same Knights of Columbus Council and are good friends who support each other."

Being Liberal means never having to say you're sorry. . .

Sad testimony for both Catholics.

[mathurine]

Having drowned Mary Jo the walrus is no paragon of virtue. and is in a good position to say that he certainly does not need to repent anything publicly. One would hope that he will have a private moment before the heart attack that is inevitable for a fatso like him, during which he asks forgiveness from God, though. However, Kennedy strikes me as one of those collection-plate Christians who figure that if they keep the clergy happy by covering the costs and providing a little extra for this or that, they can kill a person now and then, support abortion on demand. pander to homosexuality and all those sorts of things.

[Aquinasfan]

"I believe that in the year 2004, we deserve a president who understands that a stronger America is where women's rights are just that: Rights, not political weapons to be used by politicians of this nation," Kerry declared

These gutless bishops are killing me.

[Aquinasfan]

It's just that, how can anybody vote for someone who does not follow his own beliefs?

It just occurred to me the other day.

The psychological benefit of orthodoxy is the the comfort of life after death. The "downside" is a binding moral code.

The psychological benefit of atheism is the "freedom" from morality, particularly sexual morality. The downside is annihilation after death.

Cafeteria religion offers the best of both worlds: the comfor of life after death and a moral code of your own choosing. It's the perfect religion for the it's-all-about-me crowd.

[NYCVirago]

Speaking of Bishop Rodimer, did you see this story about he covered up molestation in his parish?

http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/articles/news2-Akbishop.htm

I had heard rumors for many years about Father Tully's "befriending" of young boys, and it looks like it's finally caught up with him.