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JOHN KERRY'S QUIET COLLAPSE
New York Post ^ | 4/27/04 | JOHN PODHORETZ

Posted on 04/26/2004 11:48:15 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:21:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

April 27, 2004 -- THE conventional wisdom is that the presidential election will be close. It's a 50-50 country, so the CW goes, just as it was in the year 2000.

Kerry is a terrible, terrible, terrible candidate.

It's not so much the policies he proposes, although they don't add up to all that much. The problem is Kerry himself. He no sooner opens his mouth than he sticks first one foot and then the other right in there.


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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: character; gma; goodmorningamerica; kerry; kerrylieslieslies; kerrymeltdown; lurch; medaltossing; podhoretz; terriblecandidate
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To: Talking_Mouse
Who are they gonna get to be OBL? The real one died in Afghanistan in October-December of 01.
81 posted on 04/27/2004 4:30:58 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: DB
Kerry's ego is far too great to step down. This is his life's dream. He'd run over his mother to continue now.

Vince Foster worked his whole life to get to Washington...

82 posted on 04/27/2004 4:37:35 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: Southack
1. Senator Breaux--not enough name recognition nationwide.
2. Senator Edwards--possible, but unlikely, not enough time to formulate a "Beat Bush" strategy
3. Former President Carter--there were MANY reasons he wasn't reelected in 1980, and they would be remembered
4. Former Governor Dean--he's already shot himself in the foot on numerous occassions; not even liberals want an unstable quack as president
5. Former VP Gore--yesterday's news, not in a million years
6. Senator Clinton--the only one who has the best chance; she is vicious and power-hungry and she probably has a staff working 'round the clock to formulate anti-Bush strategies on the taxpayers' dime; she is the "best" candidate for the RATs
83 posted on 04/27/2004 4:40:00 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Oh boy, I can't wait to eat that monkey!"--Abe Simpson)
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To: AntiGuv
So long as it was before the state ballot deadlines [in September], then the Democratic Party could proceed to nominate someone else by whatever procedure they agreed upon

Remember that the New Jersey Supreme Court discovered a new right in 2002- the "right of the voters to have a competitive election between the two major parties", and because their election had become "uncompetitive" (meaning that the RAT was going to lose), they eschewed "reliance on hypertechnical statutory language" and allowed a new RAT to appear on the ballot.

You can bet that Cass Sunstein and Lawrence Tribe have this all briefed already, for Hillary's accession to the top spot this October.

84 posted on 04/27/2004 4:42:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: DB
Trying to dig up background on a new dim candidate only months before a national election would be virtually impossible. All the Bush commercials against Kerry are already being made. Just like Dean, people are always excited about a candidate they really don't know anything about because they envision the person the way they want until proven otherwise. What you suggest is a recipe for disaster if you ask me.

Hillary will replace Kerry on or about October 9, 2004. She has no intention of allowing more that 28 days of public exposure as the candidate-she could never tolerate it.

And yes, you are right-we should be giving Kerry effin' BODYGUARDS, for heaven's sake-not tearing him down.

He's almost as good as Mad How would have been-maybe better.

85 posted on 04/27/2004 4:46:33 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: Tall_Texan
You're actually voting a ticket - President AND Vice President - on the ballot. Once again, the wisdom of our forefathers is revealed. If a presidential candidate died in the days leading up to the election, the "ticket" could still be voted upon with Vice Presidential nominee assuming the mantle if elected.

It's much more simple than that (not all states have unified voting for a "ticket")>

On November 2, 2004, we are electing 538 electors who will then elect the President and Vice President some time in December.

Those electors are Constitutional officers, albeit temporary ones, and once they are chosen they can elect absolutely anyone Constitutionally eligible to the office (Article II) who is also free to be elected (Amendment XXII).

If the candidate of a major party dies anytime between election day and the day the electors choose the President, (and if 270 or more electors have been chosen who would have voted for him if he were alive), then those 270 electors simply elect someone else. The "someone else" would not necessarily be the VP candidate, who in many cases would not be the best choice.

If the President-elect (chosen by 270 or more electors) dies after they vote in December, it's up to Congress to decide how to proceed.

86 posted on 04/27/2004 4:56:57 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: AntiGuv
ask why Bob Schrum the RAT strategist is so well liked in the party? He is a hater, you only need to see him once to see EVERYTHING he has to say. He is running the media for Kerry and hate will never be a positive emotion.

Kerry will always look foolish speaking the Hate of that wing of the party, because he looks week and hate on a weak person looks like cowardice.

87 posted on 04/27/2004 5:03:22 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Flyer
"He will stay in. I think the Democrats have already conceded this election and have their sights set on 2008."

If they do this then they are idiots. What the Dims should be worrying about at this stage is retaining Senate seats both now and in 2006.

If the Dims were smart, they would get behind Bush now, work to bring the nation together and to defeat Islamofacism and then in 2006 work on strenghtening the party and try to wrest some Senate seats away. They should also, get rid of the rampant negativity plaguing the party. By uniting behind the Pres in the war on terror, they can gain just enough credibility to use for 2006.

Then work on 2008. Problem is, like the communists, the Dims are working on a five year plan that went awry when Gore lost Tennessee, his home state back in 2000.


88 posted on 04/27/2004 5:03:28 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (60 Senate seats changes America.)
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To: AntiGuv
Guys, you should have gone with John Edwards.

I agree. Its clear that Edwards was the best candidate. Heck, Gephardt or Lieberman would have been better candidates as well. Now they have a Boston liberal who had not been tested in decades finding out that he is out of touch with the rest of the country.

89 posted on 04/27/2004 5:06:15 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Travis McGee
Do you think its possible there could be a Hillary/Gore ticket?
90 posted on 04/27/2004 5:08:50 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("Freepers tend to eat their own"--Sean Hannity)
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To: Flyer
I think the Democrats have already conceded this election

God...I sure hope you're right on that, Flyer.

91 posted on 04/27/2004 5:12:46 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Capitalism2003
I disagree with your assessement that we should go into activisim mode at this moment to finish Kerry's chances.

Instead, we need to keep following the "give them the rope" tactic. They are their own worst enemy and are continually tightening the noose on themselves.

Bush hasn't fired a fraction of his arsenal yet.
92 posted on 04/27/2004 5:15:42 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("Freepers tend to eat their own"--Sean Hannity)
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To: Jim Noble; Flyer
And yes, you are right-we should be giving Kerry effin' BODYGUARDS,

If the Dims were smart, they would get behind Bush now,

And if we're smart, we would get behind Kerry as the 'Rat nominee. After all, he's OUR Democratic candidate too! I wonder how the Kerry Kamp feels about our beginning to cherish him as the 'Rat standard bearer, just like we felt about Dean.

93 posted on 04/27/2004 5:21:35 AM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: Rebelbase
Not a chance....the Clinton's and Gore's still hate each other. Not a lot of love lost there.
94 posted on 04/27/2004 5:22:35 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg
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To: Travis McGee; hchutch
Will Kerry be the nominee after the convention, or will he step down for "medical reasons?"

Or will he suddenly turn up dead in Fort Marcy Park from a "self-inflicted" gunshot?

95 posted on 04/27/2004 5:25:00 AM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: kattracks
"This is a controversy that the Republicans are pushing," he raged, "and this comes from a president and a Republican Party that can't even answer whether or not he showed up for duty in the National Guard. I'm not going to stand for it."

Kerry's arrogance will cost him more votes than anything else he does.

If he doesn't get the nomination I am going to miss seeing him debate GW. Kerry's snot-nosed liberal elitist comments would stand out like a sore thumb in comparison with GW's down home common sense and quick wit.

96 posted on 04/27/2004 5:26:11 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("Freepers tend to eat their own"--Sean Hannity)
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To: kattracks
They must've been yellow ribbons...liar. You could've tied those around and old oak tree.
97 posted on 04/27/2004 5:26:15 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: kattracks
Bush in a landslide.
98 posted on 04/27/2004 5:31:03 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: agincourt1415
I do not think I'm going out on a limb when I say that Kerry will not be the nominee after the convention. I thnk the Dems are going to dump him at the convention, if not sooner.
99 posted on 04/27/2004 5:32:17 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Southack
Former President Carter? Totally absurd.
100 posted on 04/27/2004 5:33:18 AM PDT by ought-six
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