DUBYA'S WING MEN (in case you missed it, he volunteered for Vietnam)

National Review Online ^ | 2-19-04 | Jed Babbin

[OXENinFLA]

Here's the BULL TIHS that Moveon is E-mailing around.

[BSunday]

Outstanding read, Doug. Thanks for posting this.

[EternalHope]

Wish you guys would quit with the "Dubya inflation"...

You're leaving out a couple of small details:

1. Kerry had a draft number that guaranteed he would be drafted if he did not volunteer.

In other words, Kerry volunteered to avoid the draft, thus keeping himself from having to sit in a foxhole and/or crawl through the mud.

2. Dubya had a draft number in the 300s. That means he had no chance of being drafted. He joined the Guard ANYWAY.

[OneTimeLurker]

Can this be real? No way. Did the CINC specifically request not to be sent to Vietnam or was he just lucky?

[OXENinFLA]

It doesn't matter.(to me anyways)

GWB's purpose in the TANG was to watch out for Soviet bombers.

[SuziQ]

So John al-Query wants to bring up Dubya's National Guard Service? In his own words, "Bring it On"!

[deport]

2. Dubya had a draft number in the 300s. That means he had no chance of being drafted. He joined the Guard ANYWAY.

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Check your info regarding when the Draft Lottery went into effect..... President Bush had no such number....

[deport]

Can this be real? No way.

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That is from the President's military files... It has been explained as that is a normal entry filled out by the clerks as they process the paper work.... So who knows... But it is also reported that he requested assignment to Nam once he gained flight status....

[spodefly]

BTTT

[pgyanke]

I respect your service... but not your post.

...and the only reason anybody would even think of bringing a F-102 to Vietnam was to display the thing...

See above. They were there and then they were sent home.

...It was a straightline interceptor in an area where there weren't any high-altitude bombers...

I guess you never heard of the Buff runs on Hanoi during Linebacker I and II.

President Bush served honorably and well and doesn't deserve to have his service denigrated by ANYONE.

[ravingnutter]

From a 2000 WP Article:

Among the questions Bush had to answer on his application forms was whether he wanted to go overseas. Bush checked the box that said: "do not volunteer."

Bush said in an interview that he did not recall checking the box. Two weeks later, his office provided a statement from a former, state-level Air Guard personnel officer, asserting that since Bush "was applying for a specific position with the 147th Fighter Group, it would have been inappropriate for him to have volunteered for an overseas assignment and he probably was so advised by the military personnel clerk assisting him in completing the form."

Washington Post

[ravingnutter]

From a 2000 WP Article:

Among the questions Bush had to answer on his application forms was whether he wanted to go overseas. Bush checked the box that said: "do not volunteer."

Bush said in an interview that he did not recall checking the box. Two weeks later, his office provided a statement from a former, state-level Air Guard personnel officer, asserting that since Bush "was applying for a specific position with the 147th Fighter Group, it would have been inappropriate for him to have volunteered for an overseas assignment and he probably was so advised by the military personnel clerk assisting him in completing the form."

Washington Post

[OXENinFLA]

THANKS!

[lowbridge]

bump

[BillyCrockett]

I'm sure glad this story has found some light.

[CyberAnt]

Along with libel, you could add defamation.

[ravingnutter]

You're most welcome...sorry about the double post, my trackball is acting up and sometimes double-clicks with very unintended consequences. All of the questions about Bush's service were answered during the campaign, I can't believe the Dems are still beating that dead horse.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Seeing how important Kerry's status as a decorated war veteran is to the Democrats and their media, it's hard to understand why decorated war vets GHW Bush and Bob Dole didn't win by landslides over that draft dodging Bill Clinton. Democrats must have been confused by hanging chads of something, that caused all their votes for the Veterans to go to the draft dodger instead.

[piasa]

Neither one of these two need to be entering into long descriptions of their service.

If you notice, only one of 'these two' has been bragging.

[CyberAnt]

Thanks for your archive statements - this is awesome. I have a lot of stuff but none of this - it's just great.

I've been preparing lots of stuff to use as handouts closer to the election. As Chapter Executive for San Diego, I hope to have lots of handouts for people - and when they question ANYTHING - I will some handout to answer their question. Thanks again so much.