WHO WAS HUMILIATED MORE, PARRIS ISLAND RECRUITS OR IRAQ PRISONERS? (Warning, strong lauguage/images)

self | 7-May-04 | RaceBannon

[RaceBannon]

All right.

That does it.

I am going to say it.

EVERYONE who ever went to boot camp was humiliated more than these people were in Baghdad.

And I mean EVERYONE!

[tet68]

I have vague memories of a failed platoon rifle inspection,
of hours of PT wearing ponchos in july, of the manual of arms back to back with bayonets, with foot lockers, and finally the DI asked did we want to hit the showers
and screaming "SIR YES SIR!"s and so he said "INTO THE SHOWERS.......WHAT THE HELL DO YOU GIRLS THINK YOU"RE DOING, LEAVE THOSE PONCHOS ONNNN!" Then all 90 of us in the shower doing jumping jacks with the hot water running and several bottles of ammonia thrown in for good measure.

We were packed in so tight all I could do was jump up and down a little.
Finally it was over, the nightmares hardly bother me at all nowadays.

And as you say it wasn't even the "old Corps".
From the 40s, two platoons would line off, be ordered to
remove a boot and proceed to slug the other guy with it
and no skrimshanking there!

This situation however is something different and while not
atrocities as practiced by the Baathists was wrong and people need to pay for their actions. It does not I repeat not, go to the President or Secdef any more than someone caught smoking pot or any other
breaker of the rocks and shoals. (UCMJ)

[expatguy]

OMG have I finally achieved victim status myself???!!!

[joesnuffy]

Good job...these are the same bass turds that nerve gassed the Kurds children with glee
their women and children come out to cut up and mutilate our wounded and burn their bodies

These are the same psuedo life forms that gang sodomized our severely wounded female soldiers...

I cannot imagine having to guard this pseudo human garbage...having them fling feces at you spit on you...masturbating and flinging what ever it is thesd sub humans produce....

Without dragging them out of their cells and hosing them down, putting the cattle prods to them, and working them over with a good pair of heavy duty steel toed boots...

Now Rummy is kissing their arses...asking for their forgiveness and giving away U.S. taxpayer money to the little darlings and "setting them free"....see how fast they get their hands on a RPG or two and nail the first Humvee load of GI's they can...

Disgusting imo...

[LibKill]

Hell's donkeys, yes!

[wardaddy]

Thanks for the reality check...wish it were contagious.

[cannonball]

I went through Paris Island in the very early 50s. Not only were people humiliated, but that place could be down right dangerous. Ever heard of Ribbon Creek? Well, I survived and am a better man for it.

[gingerky]

On DU (yes, I admit I go there sometimes) there are threads saying that there is a picture of a 16 year old boy being raped by a guard and also that a twelve year-old girl was beaten.

The American people won't stand for kids being abused. If those pictures come to light Bush had better make the heads roll or he is toast.

[AppyPappy]

Ask any sailor or Marine if he has been across the equator.

[Dead Dog]

I've heard of platoon football. Two platoons line up facing each other on opposite sides of the grinder. Playing both offense and defense, the goal was to run to the other goal, while hitting and tackling the opposite platoon. No football needed.

[cannonball]

LOL - Yeah I remember - Kiss the baby's belly.

[monkeywrench]

And I believe the one guy was a prison guard from calif. They have terrible problems with their prison system, and a strong union to defend it against inquiry.

[LisaMalia]

Thanks for your service to our great country.

[StoneColdGOP]

Bump to that.

[steplock]

Taguba found the allegation "credible." That's JAGMAN-speak for "conviction guaranteed at court-martial."


A lawyer is just another P.O.S. suitable for ......

Don't tell me what a lawyer says - if it came out IT's mouth it is not worth anything.

Send the lawyers to the front lines.

[Poohbah]

Taguba isn't a lawyer.

A court-martial is the one court you absolutely want to be on if you're innocent...and the court you don't want to be near if you're guilty.

[RedsHunter]

Except for the locker room stuff that happened when we did swimming training at MCRD San Diego in the late 1950's, I don't recall any humiliation in boot camp (well, maybe exept for that jerk that they made wear a giant diaper made out of a bed sheet over his uniform and march in front of the platoon because he was a chronic bedwetter)that had a sexual connotation to it. Wholesale PT and mental intimidation was more the game at that time.

However, we did have one DI who had a definite penchant for punching recruits around with both a closed and open fist get shitcanned for brutality after some officer's wife saw him openly doing it on the grinder(parade ground)one afternoon and bitched to her husband about it. Personally, I was glad so see that guy go down the road, I'll tell you. Are your out there, Sergeant Thomas?

[steplock]

Taguba isn't a lawyer

What IS a taguba then? Pardon my ignorance, but I have never heard of that word.

[Poohbah]

What IS a taguba then? Pardon my ignorance, but I have never heard of that word.

Major General Antonio Taguba is the deputy commanding general for support, Third Army. He's an armor officer.

[Wings-n-Wind]

Excellent post, Race.... thanks...

Don't we all remember.... maaaa 'an....
Semper Fi...

[don-o]

Bump.

I gotta see if I can save these later