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Insulting the memory of FDR [were Japanese internment camps wrong?]
WorldNet Daily ^ | March 20, 2004 | Les Kinsolving

Posted on 05/09/2004 7:01:00 AM PDT by risk

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Saturday, March 20, 2004



Insulting the memory of FDR


Posted: March 20, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Les Kinsolving


� 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

The Associated Press reporter in the House of Representatives told me, "we didn't report the passage of the Honda resolution because it was done with a voice vote, with just a handful of members on the floor."

But this resolution was introduced by Rep. Michael Honda, a Democrat of California, whose website advertises him as having "spent his early childhood with his family at Amache, Colo., concentration camp during World War II."

This is an insult to the U.S. Supreme Court's liberals such as Felix Frankfurter, Hugo Black and Willaim O. Douglas, who, in the 1944 Korematsu case, ruled emphatically against the "concentration camp" libel. They also ruled constitutional the relocation of all Japanese resident aliens and Japanese-Americans from the three West Coast states and parts of Arizona.

This resolution, passed by that device of non-accountability the voice vote, also insulted the memory of our great wartime president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, as well as Johns Hopkins University President Milton Eisenhower, director of the War Relocation Authority.

This resolution calls for a "National Day of Remembrance to increase public awareness of the events surrounding the restriction, exclusion and internment of individuals and families during World War II."

Congressman Honda claims this is a "shameful chapter in U.S. history," ordered by President Roosevelt's Executive Order 9066 signed on Feb. 19, 1942 � the day this Honda resolution designates as a National Day of Remembrance.

What is really shameful is the fact that most of U.S. media today refuses to report the historical fact that our U.S. intelligence code-breakers who broke the Japanese code discovered hundreds of Japanese aliens and Japanese-Americans in those West Coast states who were functioning as spies for Imperial Japan.

They were watching all of our Naval shipping and had infiltrated many of our defense plants. But had they been arrested, this would have compromised and ended our breaking of that Japanese code � which later helped the United States win the decisive Battle of Midway.

The hundreds of Japanese spies on our West Coast had to be stopped without any revelation that we had broken the Japanese code.

For this reason, President Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066 � for which the Honda resolution is now defaming him.

Dr. Roger McGrath has been professor of history at both UCLA and California State University at Northbridge. He is also a major in the U.S. Marine Corps, Reserve Intelligence. He has also been a technical adviser and participant on television's A & E, the History Channel, the Discovery Channel, TNT, ABC and Disney.

He has written for the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, Harpers, the Encyclopedia of the American West and the American Conservative, in which he wrote the following in the March 15th issue about Honda's resolution passed by the House:

Honda's resolution contains a series of misrepresentations that have passed for fact for so many years that they are now generally accepted without question. Moreover, the resolution posits President Jimmy Carter's Commission on Wartime Relocation and Internment and its report, "Personal Justice Denied," as the final authority on the subject. After "20 days of hearings" and "over 750 witnesses," the commission concluded that E.O. 9066 was not justified by military necessity but was the result of "race prejudice, war hysteria and a failure of political leadership." That conclusion, however, is contrary to the facts as revealed by MAGIC, the decryptions of coded Japanese transmissions. The commission ignored MAGIC entirely in its original report, as it did witnesses who were available to proffer information supporting Roosevelt's order. The few witnesses who attempted to testify in support of E.O. 9066 were drowned out by an unruly mob of spectators.

This commission's incredible behavior, as well as the reparations voted by Congress of $20,000 to each of 82,000 evacuees ($1.6 million) were termed "shameful" by California's U.S. Sen. S.I. Hayakawa. He also described "a wolf pack of dissident young Japanese-Americans making an unconscionable raid on the U.S. Treasury."

(The senator was, in turn, denounced by these people as "a banana: yellow on the outside, white on the inside.")

Dr. McGrath also reports:

John J. McCloy, the assistant secretary of war in 1942, who monitored the evacuation and relocation, said the proceedings were "a horrendous affront to our tradition for fair and objective hearings. ... Whenever I sought in the slightest degree to justify the action ... ordered by President Roosevelt, my testimony was met with hisses and boos such as I have never, over an experience extending back to World War I, been heretofore subjected to. Others had similar experiences ... it became clear from the outset of my testimony that the commission was not at all disposed to conduct an objective investigation."

The officer in charge of the evacuation, Karl R. Bendesten, was subjected to similar treatment and simply stopped in the middle of his testimony. "I knew it would be fruitless," said Bendesten. "Every commissioner had made up his mind before he was appointed."

One of U.S. media's most inexcusable wrongs is the widespread confusion of the words "internment" and "relocation."

There were only 17,000 Japanese aliens and Japanese-Americans interned. They were quite justifiably interned, because those who were U.S.-born declared their loyalty to Emporor Hirohito. One-third of these were Japanese-Americans who renounced their American citizenship.

There was no need to relocate any Japanese aliens or Japanese-Americans from the Territory of Hawaii � because immediately after Pearl Harbor, the U.S. Army quite justifiably imposed martial law.

Dr. McGrath reports:

The great majority of Japanese were not interned but required only to relocate outside of the Western Defense Zone, an area that included California, the western halves of Oregon and Washington, and a small portion of Arizona. Those who were not able to move were eventually taken to relocation centers, built with the same materials and on similar patterns as Army bases.

Japanese could leave a relocation center if they could re-establish themselves outside of the Defense Zone, and some 35,000 did so. Those who relocated on their own by the end of March 1942 did not go to the centers.

Among those who relocated on their own and never went to any relocation center were the Toguris of California. They moved to Chicago and opened a food store.

Their daughter, Iva, UCLA Class of 1940, had moved to their homeland along with thousands of other U.S.-born Japanese. This daughter is still alive. She was known to many as "Tokyo Rose." She was found guilty of treason. But instead of being hanged (like the British hanged "Lord Haw Haw"), she was sent to the Women's Federal Prison in Alderson, W.Va. � from which she was released after being pardoned by President Gerald Ford on his last day in the White House.

The relocation centers to which the great majority of Japanese resident aliens or citizens were sent were relatively easy to leave if one could obtain a job anywhere outside the West Coast states. Dr. McGrath reports:

More than 4,300 Japanese left to go to college at government expense and thousands left to work on farms. Meanwhile, in the relocation centers the death rate was lower and the birth rate higher than that of the general American population. So, too, was the graduation rate from high school. At the time, the Japanese-American Citizens' League (JACL) praised the government for providing the relocation centers. Dillon Myer, the director of the War Relocation Authority, said, "Nothing was done regarding the relocation centers without the approval of the JACL."

And by contrast to the wonderfully humane treatment of those in relocation centers � who, later, received $20,000 apiece -- U.S. prisoners of the Japanese, including survivors of the Bataan Death March, were paid just $1 per day for being in that Hell-On-Earth.

One of the many references which thoroughly discredit Congressman Honda's defamatory resolution is "MAGIC: The Untold Story of U.S. Intelligence And The Evacuation of Japanese Residents From The West Coast During World War II."

The author is the late David Lowman, former special assistant to the director, National Security Agency.

Dr. McGrath also notes that the American Japanese Claims Act of 1948 led to the provision of $35 million paid on thousands of Japanese-Americans claims for lost or damaged homes, or even crop loss, as a result of their being called away from their homes during a national emergency -- just as so many millions of American men were called away from their homes to serve in our armed forces where half a million of them were killed fighting our national enemies.

McGrath concluded his article with a notation I hope the U.S. Senate will use in seeking to set aside and properly expose Congressman Honda's defamatory and history-distorting Day of Remembrance resolution:

If I were a loyal American of Japanese descent, I would not have been pleased with the evacuation order. Nor would I have been thrilled with having to uproot myself from my home on the Pacific Coast. However, as an emergency wartime sacrifice, it is hardly the greatest.

Just ask those Marines who regard February 19 as their Day of Remembrance. On that date in 1945 they stormed ashore on Iwo Jima, where more than 6,000 of them died. That's a sacrifice to remember -- and honor.



Les Kinsolving hosts a daily talk show for WCBM in Baltimore. His radio commentaries are syndicated nationally. He is White House correspondent for Talk Radio Network and WorldNetDaily. His show can be heard on the Internet at www.wcbm.com 8-10 p.m. Eastern each weekday. Before going into broadcasting, Kinsolving was a newspaper reporter and columnist -- twice nominated for the Pulitzer Prize for his commentary.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Japan; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: California; US: Hawaii; US: Oregon; US: Washington; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fdr; fifthcolumn; internment; japanese; kinsolving; michaelhonda; wot; ww2; wwii
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
This was true then especially in Hawaii.

None of the Japanese-Americans on Hawaii were ever moved.

41 posted on 05/09/2004 8:42:38 AM PDT by John H K
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To: Mears
That may be true (haven't checked), but I was just pointing out that the Japs weren't the only ones interned.
42 posted on 05/09/2004 8:51:54 AM PDT by Condor51 ("Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments." -- Frederick the Great)
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To: Condor51
Why are you using a racial epithet? You've already made your point and stated your opinion.
43 posted on 05/09/2004 8:58:01 AM PDT by Chip the Cat
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To: Travis McGee
"Would you have preferred to have lost the "Magic" code breaking advantage, and hence lost (among many battles) the Battle of Midway and WW2 in the Pacific?"

That is a BS argument. How would Japanese spies find out about MAGIC when it wasn't even known to military commands below the theater level? Why couldn't the U.S. have been as successful at turning Japanese agents into double agents as the British were with the Germans?

The Battle of Midway was fought in early June 1942. The legislation enabling relocation of Japanese-Americans was passed on Feb. 19, 1942. How many of them were actually relocated before Midway occurred? It's not like the U.S. had the relocation camps prepared and ready upon enactment of the relocatin statute.

As far as compromising MAGIC, the Japanese had to know something was amiss when the U.S. Navy was able to conveniently have all of its available combat power on location to fight the Battle of the Coral Sea and then Midway without sending any significant forces to react to the Japanese diversionary attacks. The enemy guessing correctly twice in a row where to position aircraft carriers in the expanse of the Pacific Ocean would arouse suspicion in even the least competent communications and intelligence officers.

44 posted on 05/09/2004 9:00:00 AM PDT by Poodlebrain
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To: cyborg
Well there were large contingents of Nazi sympathizers here on Long Island during the same time and they were never locked up. Actually, the neo-nazis still have a small presence here on LI. I don't make excuses and pretend that racism didn't play a part in making it MUCH easier to lock up Japanese people. FDR would NOT have won friends if he started locking up white people. I'll bet money on that one.

It may well have been racism, but it may also have had something to do with the fact that Japan directly attacked and killed people on United States territory, whereas Germany never did.

Most of us today barely even acknowledge that Pearl Harbor happened anymore, but don't ever underestimate the amount of outrage it stirred up within America at the time it actually happened.

45 posted on 05/09/2004 9:07:20 AM PDT by jpl ("You can go to a restaurant in New York City and meet a foreign leader."- John Kerry)
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To: jpl
Most of us today barely even acknowledge that Pearl Harbor happened anymore, but don't ever underestimate the amount of outrage it stirred up within America at the time it actually happened.

*** I will take your word for it.
46 posted on 05/09/2004 9:10:51 AM PDT by cyborg
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The above article includes the following:
Dr. McGrath also notes that the American Japanese Claims Act of 1948 led to the provision of $35 million paid on thousands of Japanese-Americans claims for lost or damaged homes, or even crop loss, as a result of their being called away from their homes during a national emergency -- just as so many millions of American men were called away from their homes to serve in our armed forces where half a million of them were killed fighting our national enemies.


Some of the soldiers mentioned above killed fighting our national enemies were Americans of Japanese descent. 11,000 of them served in the 442nd, 100th Infantry Battalion. They are the most decorated unit in the US army for size and length of service. 18,000 individual decorations for bravery, 9,500 Purple Hearts, 7 presidential unit Citations, 20 Congressional Medals of Honor, 560 Silver Stars.I haven't found a single instance of any of them cashing in on a 3 Purple Hearts and your're sent home rule. This at a time when Americans of Japanese descent eligible for the draft were classified as enemy aliens, in spite of being American citizens. These men served at a time when their families were locked up for no reason other than being of Japanese ancestry. How many freepers would watch their homes, businesses and farms taken away by the government, their families imprisoned, and than serve and sacrifice on the front lines of a war for a country in which they were often confused with the enemy? Internment was wrong then, and its wrong now. If relocation orders are ok, if we ever have an administration that declares war on conservatives, don't start bellyaching when you are relocated,your patriotism questioned, your life turned upside down, your children imprisoned behind barbed wire.After all, it's for your own good.
47 posted on 05/09/2004 9:32:06 AM PDT by Chip the Cat
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To: risk
This is an insult to the U.S. Supreme Court's liberals such as Felix Frankfurter, Hugo Black and Willaim O. Douglas,

I take it that's supposed to be some kind of scathing indictment.

48 posted on 05/09/2004 9:35:26 AM PDT by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: ml/nj
But if they were not, Roosevelt was absolutely right to do what he did. And let's not forget: We won that war.

Wonder why FDR didn't lock up Dwight Eisenhower to help the war effort.

49 posted on 05/09/2004 10:07:37 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: Condor51; muawiyah
And who's 'Manzanar'?

John 11:35

50 posted on 05/09/2004 10:13:55 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: Poodlebrain
Oddly enough, the Japanese never seemed to figure it out. Just as the Germans failed to realize that their codes had been broken.
51 posted on 05/09/2004 12:14:57 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: sargon; hoot2
Another one who didn't read the article.
52 posted on 05/09/2004 12:44:32 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Poodlebrain
You totally miss the point. (Not surprising, why do I bother?)

If we had gone out and had the FBI arrest the exact 100s of west coast Japanese spies, that would have blown the secret that we had broken the Magic / Purple codes. This secret was so closely held and ultravaluable to the success of our war effort that even Truman did not know of it.

Compare this to the German bombing of Coventry. Churchill knew from MK Ultra the exact time of Coventry's bombing. If he had ordered fighters to be shifted from the south to meet the Nazi bombers, the secret of the broken codes would have been put at risk. Coventry was bombed, and many Brits died.

Would you condemn Churchill for his "inhumane" decision to intentionally allow thousands of Brits to die? Of course not. This must be put into the context of the strategic picture of fighting a world war.

Just so with the Magic codes, and the Japanese relocation.

Hey, it beat being blown to bits in Coventry.

53 posted on 05/09/2004 12:51:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Chip the Cat
"Japs" is not a racial epithat in discussing WW2. Try reading a book or two, expand your PC horizon a bit.
54 posted on 05/09/2004 12:52:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee; Grampa Dave
This thread turned out to be pure PC bait. With some of these bleeding hearts in charge during WWII, we'd be speaking either Japanese or German now, if we hadn't been ethnically cleansed by one or both of them. They seem to think you can win a war without hurting anyone's feelings! The America we know and love today was made possible by people who had a vision and were willing to do whatever it took to secure and protect it. The last two generations has been brainwashed to think that was either unfair or wasn't true.

On California Connected's Immigration Special, Border Patrol agent Elizabeth Ebisuzaki, a descendant of relocated Japanese Americans, now goes to war every day to defend our national sovereignty.

She has more courage and patriotism than any of these "helpful" guardians of that fictional "kinder and gentler" America. It doesn't exist. First we win. Then we're kind.

55 posted on 05/09/2004 2:28:47 PM PDT by risk
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To: Condor51
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/8420/shootings.html

This is a rather infamous event that happened at the Manzanar Concentration Camp in the Owens Valley, California.

Worth educating yourself about the topic.

56 posted on 05/09/2004 5:50:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ml/nj
What do you mean by "we"? Almost all of these people being locked up were American citizens.

We wouldn't even have been able to fight the war if all the American citizens of German origin had been locked up.

Not a single act of sabotage or espionage has ever been attributed to any of the Japanese-Americans. On the other hand, the military unit in which they served in the old segregated US Army, the 100th/442nd Regimental Combat Team, was the most highly decorated unit per man in the history of the nation.

They have a website where you can visit. Check out the number of men who received the Purple Heart. It is positively breath-taking.

The various stories appearing in the Los Angeles and other papers attacking the Japanese-Americans were most likely planted there by the wealthy individuals who purchased land and other property owned by Japanese-Americans at forced tax sales.

BTW, the $35,000,000 was supposedly as much as 5 cents on the dollar for value lost.

If you're a California resident and you occupy land ever owned by a Japanese-American, you might see to it that your title insurance is valid and up to date. Someday somebody's going to figure out how to get it all back!

57 posted on 05/09/2004 6:00:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: junta
Regarding that post, you ask somebody to remember "how many", and then you name a number of things where presumably you have the numbers to go with your questions.

So, start telling us the numbers and give us your references for them. I have Bill Hosogawa's book, and they're all in there, particularly about the Kibei. Let's see if you know what you're talking about.

58 posted on 05/09/2004 6:04:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: pbear8
You forgot ".... and only a handful were shot."

Actually, NO ONE should have been shot!

Many people tried to "relocate" east of the Mississippi river, but additional orders and Army supervision made that virtually impossible. Nothing voluntary about any of this!

59 posted on 05/09/2004 6:07:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong; cyborg
Yep, "Yip, Yip Yaphank" (Irving Berlin WW1) was the epicenter of the German American Bund in the 30's, revival type meetings, summer camps, etc. Until very recently the old German influence was still very strong.
60 posted on 05/09/2004 6:08:45 PM PDT by wtc911 (Europe without God plus islam = Eurabia)
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