Posted on 05/11/2004 6:35:01 AM PDT by qam1
We'd like the women's movement to show us the way.
Lady, are you too stupid to think for yourself?
You speak the truth. I have three sons and my advice to them on getting married is "Don't". Why engage in an activity where the risk of and price of failure for a man is so high. Stick to bungee jumping and rock climbing.
Interesting that you should use that collective noun. My sixteen year old son uses the exact same word for his female contemporaries - which even shocks me somewhat.The feminists appear to want to turn women into pseudo-males which not suprisingly is not appealing to heterosexual males.
In an ideal world, lifelong monogamy yields the most psychological, emotional and spiritual benefits to both partners but thanks to the feminists, women have been awakened to the danger of male oppression and can now live "liberated" lives.( The fact that women own a substantial majority of the assets in the USA seemed to have escaped their notice)
Not necessarily -- I actually think it is subversively conservative. The irony of that show was that by the end of the series, all the girls had basically grown sick of their "glamorous" lifestyles, gotten married to a more-or-less normal guy, settled down, and started having children. At the beginning to the series, these girls were ultra-liberal Manhattan sluts, and by the end of the show they had all discovered that a much more conservative family-oriented lifestyle was their path to true happiness. No, they don't become bible-thumpers, but they all strongly gravitate toward more conservative family values as they realize it is their promiscuous ultra-liberal lifestyle that is making them unhappy.
I watched the show off and on over the years. I know the show is lambasted here regularly, but it was actually a slow motion deconstruction of the supposedly glamorous lifestyle of these women and how unhappy it actually made them. The story line was basically all four of those girls discovering how profoundly unhappy they were with their freewheeling, care-free city lifestyle, and finding real satisfaction in mundane tasks and building families.
I don't know if it is intentional, and you have to watch quite a bit of it to see the clear trend. For regular watchers of that show, I've seen positive influences on the way they think about such things, as it showed the real negative consequences of these women choosing to live the way they did.
In some ways, it is like South Park in that you won't see the subversive nature of it if you only see a small snippet of it and it will come across as profoundly liberal. But in the big picture, some clearly conservative ideas are being promoted as a common thread throughout the episodes.
You're not making it easy for an 18-year-old who has recently escaped one sexual pitfall and wants to do the right thing now. *Smirks*
Because the men worked themselves to death.
Parents have been known to give misguided advice and children to ignore it. My eldest son is a knock-off of Brad Pitt except he's into scuba, boxing and weight-lifting so is a bit beefier and he regularly ignores my advice, but not on marriage, so far!
No worries, honey, since you've convinced everyone it's OK to kill babies if their birth is inconvenient it won't be much of a stretch to off gram once she becomes a burden. Reap the wind, sow the whirlwind..
Great realization, however, it's still not conservative enough. The "happy ending" of the series belies the fact that the "promiscuious ultra liberal lifestyle" often makes it difficult to impossible for women to transition to to family values when they are older.
Several reasons come to mind --
a)Most of the good guys of their generation will be taken.
b)Women who waste their youngest, best years slutting around may find that as they get older and try to settle down, they're no longer as attractive as they once were -- the few guys their own age who are still looking, now want younger women.
c) Fertility may be compromised by both advancing age and by the consequences of sluttery (abortion scars, STD damage).
d) Worst of all, having become psychologically attuned to wild adventures with dangerous jerks, they may find it almost impossible to settle down to with a stable, decent, "boring" guy of the sort they've been studiously avoiding all these years. In fact they may not even realize they need to make the switch, and instead of grabbing one of those nice guys they may go through the fires of hell trying IN VAIN to manipulate some wild, lawless jerk into settling down and being monogamous.
So even if women who follow the Way of the Slut, eventually figure out how wrong it is, often it's too late to have a "happy ending." It would be better advice to a woman, to attract the best husband you can get, while you're still young and attractive, and do your best to hang onto him.
All based on my woeful experiences and observations as a nice guy trying to find a decent wife in California -- PARTICULARLY section (d) -- and observing the fates of the women who chose evil men instead of me and my friends. No hyperoble necessary.
In no way should that post be interpreted as an attack on all women -- far from it -- but in Lost Angeles, that post does probably describe the majority. Even among self-proclaimed, churchgoing "Christians".
Never mind implying it's all the woman's fault.
Well... my wife seems to think so! She thinks all those girls were crazy, and that I'm a great guy. And she is a great girl who in no way fits that negative description, either.
On reflection, THAT probably IS hyperbole - but not as much as you might think. It might however be a statistical residue of the fact that many good women get snapped up at an early age and by ~30, the percentage of those still single is skewed in favor of the "Sex and the City" types.
Plenty of decent guys have asked these women out, hoping for a Christian relationship leading, if all goes well, to marriage --only to find themselves fending off seduction attempts after a few dates! ("But... we met in Bible study, I didn't expect her to throw herself at me!"). I had this happen more times than I care to count, and I'm currently counselling a guy who got blindsided by such a woman shortly after he got saved, and unfortunately gave into her.... sabotaged his spiritual life for 3 years before he broke free.
I've read your freeper profile and we've talked before -- I don't think YOU are one of these. THere's a couple others here (cyborg, rintense) that also come across as great women. In no way do I intend to slam you. In fact, the perfidy of these other women makes your sort look all the better by comparison. But, I am talking about real experiences when I make these rants -- as Rush puts it, "I don't make this stuff up!"
Someone is catching on, albeit a little late.
The feminist movement has long been about hating men and all activities that involve men.
Patsy Ireland is quoted as saying that the mission of NOW was to encourage lesbianism among women.
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