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Repeal the 17th Amendment - It’s where big government begins
National Review Online ^ | May 12th, 2004 | Bruce Bartlett

Posted on 05/12/2004 7:18:17 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis

Repeal the 17th Amendment It’s where big government begins.

By Bruce Bartlett

There is only one time when a U.S. senator is really free to speak the truth — when he’s announced his retirement. Since he no longer has to worry about raising money, pandering to voters, or retaliation from his colleagues, he can say what he really thinks about issues no other member of the Senate will discuss. For this reason, it is worth listening to Sen. Zell Miller, Democrat of Georgia, who recently spoke a truth that no senator except a retiring one would dare say.

On April 28, Sen. Miller, the last genuinely conservative Democrat we will likely ever see in the Senate, laid the blame for what ails that august body at the door of the 17th amendment to the Constitution. This is the provision that provides for the popular election of senators.

Few people today know that the Founding Fathers never intended for senators to be popularly elected. The Constitution originally provided that senators would be chosen by state legislatures. The purpose was to provide the states — as states — an institutional role in the federal government. In effect, senators were to function as ambassadors from the states, which were expected to retain a large degree of sovereignty even after ratification of the Constitution, thereby ensuring that their rights would be protected in a federal system.

The role of senators as representatives of the states was assured by a procedure, now forgotten, whereby states would “instruct” their senators how to vote on particular issues. Such instructions were not conveyed to members of the House of Representatives because they have always been popularly elected and are not expected to speak for their states, but only for their constituents.

When senators represented states as states, rather than being super House members as they are now, they zealously protected states’ rights. This term became discredited during the civil-rights struggle of the 1960s as a code word for racism — allowing Southern states to resist national pressure to integrate. But clearly this is an aberration. States obviously have interests that may conflict with federal priorities on a wide variety of issues that defy easy ideological classification. Many states, for example, would probably enact more liberal laws relating to the environment, health, and business regulation if allowed by Washington.

Two factors led to enactment of the 17th amendment. First was the problem that many state legislatures deadlocked on their selections for the Senate. The upper house and the lower house could not agree on a choice, or it was prohibitively difficult for one candidate to get an absolute majority in each house (as opposed to a plurality), which was required by federal law. Some states went without representation in the Senate for years as a consequence.

The second problem involved a perception that the election of senators by state legislatures made them more susceptible to corruption by special interests. The Hearst newspapers were a major force arguing this point in the early 1900s.

The pressure of public opinion eventually forced the Senate to approve a constitutional amendment changing the election of senators to our current system of the popular vote. The fact that many states (such as Oregon) had already adopted a system whereby legislatures were required to choose senators selected by popular vote was ignored.

The 17th amendment was ratified in 1913. It is no coincidence that the sharp rise in the size and power of the federal government starts in this year (the 16th amendment, establishing a federal income tax, ratified the same year, was also important). As George Mason University law professor Todd Zywicki has noted, prior to the 17th amendment, senators resisted delegating power to Washington in order to keep it at the state and local level. “As a result, the long term size of the federal government remained fairly stable during the pre-Seventeenth Amendment era,” he wrote.

Prof. Zywicki also finds little evidence of corruption in the Senate that can be traced to the pre-1913 electoral system. By contrast, there is much evidence that the post-1913 system has been deeply corruptive. As Sen. Miller put it, “Direct elections of Senators … allowed Washington’s special interests to call the shots, whether it is filling judicial vacancies, passing laws, or issuing regulations.”

Sen. Miller also lays much of the blame for the current impasse on confirming federal judges at the door of the 17th amendment. Consequently, on April 28 he introduced S.J.Res. 35 in order to repeal that provision of the Constitution.

Over the years, a number of legal scholars have called for the repeal of the 17th amendment. An excellent summary of their arguments appears in Ralph Rossum's recent book, Federalism, the Supreme Court and the Seventeenth Amendment. They should at least get a hearing before Zell Miller departs the Senate at the end of this year.


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I love Zell Miller! Even though He's a Dem (but as conservative as Reagan), can we put him on the Republican ticket in '08?
1 posted on 05/12/2004 7:18:17 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis
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To: *Taxreform
bump
2 posted on 05/12/2004 7:18:40 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis
Actually, I'd say the 14th Amendment is where Big Government begins, but I'm one of those annoying Southrons...
3 posted on 05/12/2004 7:19:49 AM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: Remember_Salamis
bump for later
4 posted on 05/12/2004 7:20:39 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Remember_Salamis
bttt
5 posted on 05/12/2004 7:21:57 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: Remember_Salamis
>Repeal the 17th Amendment

A Freeper once said
every few generations
we should repeal all

the Amendments, then
let law types make the case for
which ones to bring back . . .

6 posted on 05/12/2004 7:23:05 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Remember_Salamis
Few people today know that the Founding Fathers never intended for senators to be popularly elected. The Constitution originally provided that senators would be chosen by state legislatures. The purpose was to provide the states — as states — an institutional role in the federal government. In effect, senators were to function as ambassadors from the states, which were expected to retain a large degree of sovereignty even after ratification of the Constitution, thereby ensuring that their rights would be protected in a federal system.

The American general public is so appalling ignorant about the Constitution, most people under 40 can't even read it, let alone be able to understand why repealing the 17th amendment would be so important long term to the health of freedom and liberty.

7 posted on 05/12/2004 7:27:19 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: Fzob
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8 posted on 05/12/2004 7:28:10 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: Remember_Salamis
Repeal the 17th... REAL Campaign Finance Reform.
11 posted on 05/12/2004 7:30:19 AM PDT by drc43
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To: Christian Jones
So it's a good thing that the Constitution isn't amended by popular vote.

Yes indeed. That's why we are a republic rather than a democracy. Though most people have no ides what the difference is.

Definition of a democracy: Organized mob rule. Two wolves and a sheep

12 posted on 05/12/2004 7:35:22 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: Remember_Salamis
It's a matter of historical record that the Southern Pacific RR owned the California legislature in the later 19th century, and hence two United States Senate seats.

Moving the locus of corruption from DC to the state legislatures won't help reduce corruption. It'll just make it more affordable for the corruptors.

The Texas legislature is already the best legislature money can buy -- the whole Lege ought to be regulated by the state insurance commissioner, since they're a wholly-owned subsidiary of the insurance industry. And don't get me started about Louisiana.

13 posted on 05/12/2004 7:36:57 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: drc43
Nice..I think I might have to steal that from ya for my tagline

;-)

14 posted on 05/12/2004 7:39:50 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Remember_Salamis
Big Government really began with Roosevelt's Court Packing Scandal- which forced the Supreme Court to accept any federal law or agency that "affects" interstate commerce- That coupled with the progressive Income Tax- a near majority of voters could (and still can) vote for socialist politicians and were paying little to nothing in taxes for the expansion of government.
15 posted on 05/12/2004 7:45:36 AM PDT by Fast Ed97
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To: Remember_Salamis
"The 17th amendment was ratified in 1913"

..... and thus ended the republican experiment plunging the country into democracy and the rule of the mob.

16 posted on 05/12/2004 8:07:42 AM PDT by patriot_wes (The)
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To: Remember_Salamis
I'm glad to see this issue being talked about.
17 posted on 05/12/2004 8:08:18 AM PDT by snopercod (I used to be disgusted. Then I became amused. Now I'm disgusted again.)
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To: Remember_Salamis
BTT
18 posted on 05/12/2004 8:11:03 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: Remember_Salamis
Why don't we just repeal the a$$hole$ that have been elected?
19 posted on 05/12/2004 8:12:03 AM PDT by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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To: Little Ray
Actually, I'd say the 14th Amendment is where Big Government begins, but I'm one of those annoying Southrons...

Bump. Repeal the 17th, and then we'll address the 14th which gave us legalized abortion & homosexuality.

20 posted on 05/12/2004 8:14:52 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross - HIS love for us kept Him there. (||)
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