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Outrage as KISS player mouths off on Muslims
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | May 14, 2004

Posted on 05/13/2004 9:25:48 PM PDT by veronica

KISS bass player Gene Simmons has caused an uproar among Australia's Muslim community by launching an attack on Islamic culture while in Melbourne.

The lizard-tongued rock god who is touring Australia with the world's most enduring glam rock band launched an attack on Muslim extremists during an interview on Melbourne's 3AW radio - including comments which were labelled inaccurate.

"Extremism believes that it's okay to strap bombs on to your children and send them to paradise and whatever else and to behead people," he said yesterday.

The Israeli-born US musician went on to say Islam was a "vile culture" that treated women worse than dogs.

Muslim women had to walk behind their men and were not allowed to be educated or own houses, he said.

"Your dog, however, can walk side by side, your dog is allowed to have its own dog house... you can send your dog to school to learn tricks, sit, beg, do all that stuff - none of the women have that advantage."

He went on to say the west was under threat.

"This is a vile culture and if you think for a second that it's going to just live in the sands of God's armpit you've got another thing coming," he said.

"They want to come and live right where you live and they think that you're evil."

Simmons said the United Nations approach did not work and the west had to "speak softly and carry a big stick".

The radio station today fielded calls from Muslims upset at the comments, including Australian Muslim of the year Susan Carland, who said Australian Muslims rejected extremism and did not fit Simmons' stereotype.

Ms Carland said she had two degrees, was doing her honours and "certainly do not walk behind my husband".

Chairman of the Islamic Council of Victoria Yasser Soliman said Simmons' comments were "very unfortunate".

"He's very famous obviously and popular and, as a result, influential," he said.

"Mixing the entertainment world with the political and religious world is a minefield."

He said Simmons had begun by talking about extremists but had gone on to vilify the entire Muslim culture.

"A number of his claims regarding women and what they are allowed to do and not do are wrong - Islam teaches the opposite," he said.

Simmons had a right to free speech, but this had to be balanced against the damage done to innocent people, he said.

"I think it would be good for overseas speakers and commentators to be given some sort of advice in regards to our vilification laws here," he said.

"They leave and go back to where they arrived from, but they leave behind a big mess that we have to live with."


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asktheimam; australia; entertainer; feminism; feministsmia; freespeech; genesimmons; humanrights; islam; islamofascism; jews; kiss; kissarmy; music; muslims; pc; politicallycorrect; preachingtothaquior; religion; religiousintolerance; rock; rockandroll; rockmusic; terrorism; women; womensrights
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To: Abbeville Conservative
And his comments are wrong because?

Because the truth hurts.

41 posted on 05/13/2004 9:40:30 PM PDT by highlander_UW (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. - Robert Frost)
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To: veronica
He was born in Tel Aviv and his mother survived the Nazi camps. He knows all about Nazis, the old and the new, and he tells it like it is.

Gene gets it.

42 posted on 05/13/2004 9:40:44 PM PDT by Indie (We don't need no steenkin' experts!)
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To: Hildy

OUCH...I was posting a picture of THE TONGUE and this came up!!!


43 posted on 05/13/2004 9:40:53 PM PDT by Hildy (...Love like you've never been hurt and live like it's heaven on Earth. - Mark Twain)
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To: evolved_rage

Iron Butterfly?


44 posted on 05/13/2004 9:40:55 PM PDT by null and void ("Don’t duck! They couldn't hit an elephant at this dis...")
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To: veronica

Just tell it like it is, Gene. Right on!!


45 posted on 05/13/2004 9:41:23 PM PDT by momfirst
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To: arasina
Neither can I.

And that was before I knew of Don Henley's abhorrent politics.

46 posted on 05/13/2004 9:41:30 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: veronica

STAND UP YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AFRAID.....Go Gene go!


47 posted on 05/13/2004 9:41:30 PM PDT by 31R1O
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To: veronica

Another side note: All the original members of KISS, and almost all of the replacements, were Jewish.

No real bearing on this discussion (other than a little insight on why Gene may harbor a little extra ill-will toward Arab folks), just a point of interest.


48 posted on 05/13/2004 9:41:32 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: Abbeville Conservative
And his comments are wrong because?

Well, they did say that there were some inaccurate statements.

Saying that women in islam are treated worse than dogs is inaccurate. Dogs are treated quite well by most people.

It would be much more accurate to say that the women in islam are treated worse than cockroches.

49 posted on 05/13/2004 9:41:48 PM PDT by SpottedBeaver (Hide not your talents, they for use were made. What's a sun-dial in the shade? - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tortoise
"No, no, no. You are thinking of Richard Simmons."

Richard Simmons? Women? Gotta be kidding.... Let's see... Could it have been Little Richard? No, that can't be it either.
50 posted on 05/13/2004 9:43:03 PM PDT by Wampus SC
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To: bayourod

Your point, troll?
go back to DU.


51 posted on 05/13/2004 9:43:19 PM PDT by John Will
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To: evolved_rage

Boston, Kansas, Journey, and, um...the Bee Gees? :)


52 posted on 05/13/2004 9:43:42 PM PDT by TheBigB ("My glasses! I can't see a thing without my glasses!" ~ Velma Dinkly)
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To: evolved_rage

All those bands are excellent, but KISS ?? Can't argue with Simmons. Maybe the old bands are speaking up.


53 posted on 05/13/2004 9:43:44 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: veronica
your dog is allowed to have its own dog house...

Actually according the Imam discussions I've read, Islam demands this. Supposedly angels won't visit homes that have animals inside.

54 posted on 05/13/2004 9:44:19 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: veronica
Gene Simmons is not your typical drugged out imbecile washed up rock star.

I loved his interview with NPR's Terry Gross.

I posted this transcript recently on some other thread...but the audio is better.

55 posted on 05/13/2004 9:44:59 PM PDT by Planet
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To: veronica

Gene Simmons played the evil Islamic terrorist villain, Malak al Rahim, in Rutger Hauer's movie, Wanted: Dead Or Alive ... he was setting off car bombs in LA, and tried to pull of the poison gassing of half the city, until Rutger put a grenade in his mouth and pulled the pin.

A great performance, quite cold-blooded and malevolent.

Personally, I've never listened to KISS, but Simmons is OK in my book ... especially after reading this.


56 posted on 05/13/2004 9:45:00 PM PDT by jwfiv
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To: John Will

Lighten up, Francis. Learn how to recognize the trolls (it isn't too hard), and don't throw out the label at someone who isn't one.


57 posted on 05/13/2004 9:45:16 PM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: veronica

Australian Muslim of the year

How do you get that award? Strap bomb belts to unsuspecting 'roos?


58 posted on 05/13/2004 9:46:23 PM PDT by kenth
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To: veronica
I wonder if he would like to run for office?

So9

59 posted on 05/13/2004 9:46:47 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: veronica
Muslim women had to walk behind their men....

While this is normally the case, during WWII the women walked in front of the man in northern Africa. The reason was that the place had been heavily mined. But it does go to show that these diaperheads can adapt to change.

60 posted on 05/13/2004 9:47:01 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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