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9/11 SUSPECT GOT BERG'S E-MAIL PASSWORD
New York Post ^ | May 14, 2004 | DAN MANGAN and BRIAN BLOMQUIST

Posted on 05/13/2004 11:48:42 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:21:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

May 14, 2004 -- Nick Berg, the young American beheaded by terrorists in Iraq, had an earlier encounter with a Muslim fanatic - and inadvertently provided accused 9/11 al Qaeda operative Zacarias Moussaoui with his e-mail password. The bizarre twist was confirmed by the Justice Department and Berg's father. In what one Justice official described as a "coincidental" link, both the telecommunications whiz from West Chester, Pa., and the accused 9/11 conspirator were in Norman, Okla., in 2000.


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1 posted on 05/13/2004 11:48:42 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Grampa Dave; Travis McGee

Sweet.


2 posted on 05/13/2004 11:50:30 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk

What are the odds?


3 posted on 05/13/2004 11:52:14 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It does boggle the mind.


4 posted on 05/13/2004 11:53:46 PM PDT by risk
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I am sorry to say, but there is something screwy here. Giving your e-mail password is akin giving your PIN # for your ATM card to me.

Of course he could have been an idealistic college kid, but there are a lot of things not adding up.

5 posted on 05/13/2004 11:55:06 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Too much "coincidence" here for me. There was something very strange going on with this man and I don't think we've heard the last of it.


6 posted on 05/13/2004 11:55:39 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: risk; Travis McGee; Grampa Dave; Jeff Head
OK............Travis you seem to be on to something with your other ANSWER SWAG...........:o)

Stay Safe !

7 posted on 05/13/2004 11:56:00 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It's all starting to come out. At first I figured the father was just wraught with emotion, and I gave him a pass. Now that I've read he's anti-American, has spoken to presumptive nominee Kerry, I'm a little frustrated with the father. He's on par with the Jersey Girls at the 9/11 Commission hearings.


8 posted on 05/13/2004 11:56:31 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don't know, maybe I'm just not that friendly, but who lends their computer to a stranger? It's not like a pen or pencil. And if they were on a bus, how did this guy end up accessing his e-mail?
9 posted on 05/13/2004 11:57:54 PM PDT by Rokurota
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Someone [on the bus] asked to use his computer. College kids do that all the time. It turned out that this guy was a terrorist and he used my son's e-mail, amongst many other students he did that to," said the senior Berg

Oh man....

10 posted on 05/13/2004 11:57:57 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Dane

With the number of free e-mail services out there, I don't know why he gave Moussaoui his personal e-mail password. Berg was obviously too naive.


11 posted on 05/14/2004 12:00:36 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: GOPrincess; All
Press accused of ignoring beheading***WEST CHESTER, Pa. — Friends and neighbors of hometown businessman Nicholas Berg said yesterday his beheading by Islamists in Iraq has been underplayed by journalists, who are devoting more attention to the Iraqi prisoner-abuse scandal.

"This is typical of journalism," said Bruce Hauser, a next-door neighbor and longtime friend of the Berg family. "Bad news is hot when it's hot. Now it seems like 72 hours after we learn about [Mr. Berg's] death, we've gone from the front page to page 3 or page 7." ***

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Perhaps they want more than 15 minutes of fame.

Perhaps they want a more public "Diana" display.

12 posted on 05/14/2004 12:01:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Someone [on the bus] asked to use his computer. College kids do that all the time. It turned out that this guy was a terrorist and he used my son's e-mail, amongst many other students he did that to," said the senior Berg, who spoke yesterday with presidential candidate John Kerry.

I wouldn't just let anyone use my computer, let alone e-mail address or freely pass around my password.

13 posted on 05/14/2004 12:01:53 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (John Kerry: An old creep, with gray hair, trying to look like he's 30 years old.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

"Someone [on the bus] asked to use his computer. College kids do that all the time. It turned out that this guy was a terrorist and he used my son's e-mail, amongst many other students he did that to," said the senior Berg

And then his accomplices murder him when he goes to a hell hole, for the wrong reasons.

This is bizarre. And Dad is an idiot, blinded by his philosophy. Very sad.

DK


14 posted on 05/14/2004 12:02:18 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Berg was obviously too naive.

Or...maybe not. Maybe being, as his father said, their "best friend."

15 posted on 05/14/2004 12:02:46 AM PDT by Rokurota
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"inadvertently provided accused 9/11 al Qaeda operative Zacarias Moussaoui with his e-mail password"


"Need a hand back up?"


16 posted on 05/14/2004 12:05:05 AM PDT by paleocon patriarch
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Meere wild schpeculation , but I just get this nagging suspicion the Berg was working for Al Qaeda, doing communications work in concert with his dad until he outlived his usefulness
Just connecting the dots

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/11/iraq/main616842.shtml


17 posted on 05/14/2004 12:05:06 AM PDT by Freesofar (Thank You to our Troops for defending us day and night)
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To: Rokurota; Squantos

One purely speculative theory of mine is this:
Berg was in Iraq with the comm tower non-job for cover-for-action to travel around odd places.

His real mission was to act as a messenger, trying to become a go-between from Int'l A.N.S.W.E.R. to Al Queda. I mean, ANSWER can't exactly just pick up a phone to call Al Queda. To communicate with them, you have to GO to where they ARE, and fish around dropping hints, until you're picked up.

That's when you tell them the glorious news: you have come from a group "allied in the struggle against the Western imperialists" yadda yadda. You have a message, and an offer to coordinate activities, or perhaps hints on how to tweak their operations for the best effect, IOW, what and when to pull an operation which will result in the defeat of George W. Bush in November.

You expect to be treated fairly well, perhaps roughed up like the fake Japanese hostages/peace activists. After all, you can't talk to Al Queda, and just walk away like nothing happened.

But they saw the Jewish name Berg, and the Israeli passport stamp, and that trumped his ANSWER credentials. When the AG Prison scandal hit the papers.... Nick went on to serve a higher Al Queda purpose: human sacrifice on film.

That's why Daddy Berg (Mr. ANSWER) said "They killed their best friend."

The above is pure speculation on my part.


18 posted on 05/14/2004 12:05:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I wouldn't just let anyone use my computer, let alone e-mail address or freely pass around my password.

The Guardian The life and death of Nick Berg ***....when his son got back from Ghana he returned with only the clothes on his back. He said he looked emaciated because he gave away most of his food. ***

19 posted on 05/14/2004 12:06:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Travis McGee
Best tinfoil ,SWAGuess ,movie script, is "IF" he was ANSWERing their call, helping em, then they saw him engaged with the Iraqi police, FiBi's, DOD and CIA assets......decided he was too much of a unknown and his contacts with alphabet agencies as a suspect were misinterpreted by the tangos as spying against them .

Just a possibility.......Stay Safe !

20 posted on 05/14/2004 12:08:13 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The bizarre twist was confirmed by the Justice Department and Berg's father. In what one Justice official described as a "coincidental" link, both the telecommunications whiz from West Chester, Pa., and the accused 9/11 conspirator were in Norman, Okla., in 2000.

Coincidental hell! What we have here appears to be a direct link between Al Qaeda and some of our American far-Left communist groups.

Who wudda thunk it?


21 posted on 05/14/2004 12:09:04 AM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: All

I find it odd that someone who had an electronics background couldn't find work in Iraq. Especially someone who appeared familiar with roughing it in foreign countires. Something just doesn't smell right.


22 posted on 05/14/2004 12:09:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
inadvertently provided accused 9/11 al Qaeda operative Zacarias Moussaoui with his e-mail password

Har har. I suppose he "inadvertently" provided Moussaoui with his login name too?

Berg was a student at the University of Oklahoma and Moussaoui was newly settled and hoping to learn to fly jetliners.

Now that is certainly interesting.

The FBI questioned Berg in 2002 after discovering Moussaoui had used his e-mail account.

At one point some terrorists had a system set up where they would comminicate by email, but they would not send it. Instead, they both shared the same hotmail account and saved their messages in the 'Draft's folder. Then the other would log into the account and read them. Could that be what we had going on here?

The e-mail, sent to Berg's parents by the U.S. consular officer in Iraq, states, "I have confirmed that your son, Nick, is being detained by the U.S. military in Mosul. He is safe. He was picked up approximately one week ago."

Since when are these kind of message relayed by email?

I am not liking this.

23 posted on 05/14/2004 12:10:30 AM PDT by explodingspleen (When life gets complex, multiply by the complex conjugate.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is there any reson why this guy went to Oklahoma? I mean he is from the Philly area and he attended two great schools in Philly, UPenn and Drexel. Why the need to go to Oklahoma if he was such great student at those schools and even Cornell?


24 posted on 05/14/2004 12:10:55 AM PDT by Rokurota
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To: risk

"It does boggle the mind."

That it does.

I can only guess that either he felt guilt about his being used by those involved with 911 and got in over his head or this is all about something much darker.


25 posted on 05/14/2004 12:12:07 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: Travis McGee

How do you do that Sherlock?


26 posted on 05/14/2004 12:12:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who the heck was this guy?


27 posted on 05/14/2004 12:13:45 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What are the odds?

They must be like a zillion to one or something

28 posted on 05/14/2004 12:15:09 AM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"This is typical of journalism," said Bruce Hauser, a next-door neighbor and longtime friend of the Berg family.

Sooner or later the Criminal Media will piss off just about everyone in this country. When that level of saturation has been reached, we may begin to see responsible journalism.

29 posted on 05/14/2004 12:15:22 AM PDT by giotto
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To: Freesofar
From the link you provided:

Two e-mails he sent to his family and friends show he traveled widely and unguarded throughout Iraq, an unsafe practice rarely done by Westerners.

and near the end of the article

On April 10, four days after Berg was released from an Iraqi prison, an American diplomat offered to put him on a flight to Jordan, State Department spokeswoman Kelly Shannon said.

But Berg told the diplomat he "planned to travel overland to Kuwait and would call (his) family from there," Shannon said.

Michael Berg said that although his son wanted to leave Iraq, he refused the flight offer because he thought the travel to the airport would be too dangerous.

30 posted on 05/14/2004 12:17:21 AM PDT by explodingspleen (When life gets complex, multiply by the complex conjugate.)
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To: giotto
"This is typical of journalism," said Bruce Hauser, a next-door neighbor and longtime friend of the Berg family.

Sooner or later the Criminal Media will piss off just about everyone in this country. When that level of saturation has been reached, we may begin to see responsible journalism.

If the media does it job, Mr. Hauser may end up wanting the media to shut-up.

31 posted on 05/14/2004 12:17:46 AM PDT by Rokurota
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To: All

May 14, 2004, 12:40AM



Berg questioned about 9/11 suspect, FBI says
CIA believes Islamic militant was executioner
By SHANNON McCAFFREY


Knight Ridder Tribune

WASHINGTON -- Slain American Nicholas Berg was questioned repeatedly in Iraq by FBI agents because of possible ties to confessed al-Qaida member and accused Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui, U.S. officials said Thursday.

CIA officials also said Thursday that an analysis of a grisly video of Berg's murder strongly indicates that the masked man who stood behind Berg, read a statement linking his killing to the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. soldiers, then cut off Berg's head was Jordanian Islamic militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

The officials said al-Zarqawi, who's also a suspect in the 2002 murder of a U.S. official in Jordan, heads his own terrorist organization but maintains contacts with Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network. The United States has offered $10 million for information leading to the capture or killing of al-Zarqawi, whose real name is Ahmad Fadhil al-Khalayleh.

When FBI agents in Iraq first questioned Berg on March 26, while he was detained at an Iraqi police station in Mosul, he wasn't suspected of being linked with Moussaoui, a senior Justice Department official said on condition of anonymity.

But Berg volunteered that he'd been questioned by the FBI once before, in connection with the Moussaoui investigation after his computer password turned up in Moussaoui's belongings, the official said. That piqued the FBI agents' interest, and they asked that he be kept in detention while they investigated further.

The original Moussaoui link was determined in 2002 to be "a total coincidence," the official said, and FBI agents in Iraq determined that Berg should be released.

But the investigation delayed Berg's release long enough that he missed a flight back to the United States on March 30. By the time he returned to Baghdad on April 6, Iraq was in the grip of a bloody insurgency, with U.S. troops fighting throughout the country and foreigners being taken hostage.

Berg's father acknowledged Thursday that his son had once been questioned by the FBI because of the computer password, but he couldn't be reached for comment about the reason for his son's detention in Mosul.

Berg checked out of his hotel on April 10 and wasn't seen again until his beheaded body was discovered by U.S. soldiers Saturday. The grisly video of his beheading was posted on the Internet Tuesday.

Berg attended the University of Oklahoma for a time, and Moussaoui, who was arrested in August 2001 in Minnesota when he tried to enroll in flight school, had lived in Norman, Okla., where the school is located. FBI officials don't know how Moussaoui got Berg's password, but they originally were investigating whether Berg had been friends with two of Moussaoui's roommates, Hussein al Attas and Mukkaram Ali, who also were students.

The Moussaoui link added another twist to the already strange tale of Berg's time in Iraq. As a rare American not tied to a major Defense Department contractor, Berg had spent months in Iraq drumming up business as a communications tower repairman. He often took public transportation and didn't have a driver or translator.

U.S. officials have denied that Berg was in U.S. custody in Iraq. But Berg's family apparently had been told via e-mail from a State Department consular officer that Berg was being held by the U.S. military.

State Department officials confirmed Thursday the authenticity of the April 1 e-mail from Beth A. Payne, who was the U.S. consular officer in Baghdad until mid-April. But a State Department spokeswoman said thee-mail was inaccurate.

Other versions of events surfaced Thursday. A U.S. general in Mosul said Iraqi police detained Berg at the FBI's request, but the police chief of Mosul disputed assertions that his department arrested Berg.

Berg, of West Chester, Pa., a suburb west of Philadelphia, had gone to Mosul on what he told friends would be a two-day trip to look for new business when he was arrested March 24 by Iraqi police.

Berg told friends in Baghdad after he was released that the police had detained him because they suspected he was an Israeli spy. His friends quoted him as saying the police became suspicious because of his last name and an Israeli stamp that was in his passport.

During his detention, Berg was visited three times by FBI agents and monitored for his well-being by U.S. military police, U.S. officials say, but Dan Senor, spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition running Iraq, said that Berg "was at no time under the jurisdiction or within the detention of coalition forces."

On Wednesday, Senor referred questions to Iraqi police in Mosul as to why Berg was arrested. However, the police chief of Mosul said Thursday that his department never arrested Berg. "Such reports are baseless," said Maj. Gen. Mohammed Khair al-Barhawi.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/2568526


32 posted on 05/14/2004 12:19:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I know it has been posted but I don't know where to begin to look, does anyone have his dads sisters name or the Iraqi's name that she was married to.


33 posted on 05/14/2004 12:20:11 AM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: All

34 posted on 05/14/2004 12:20:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TomasUSMC

He had an Iraqi uncle too. Went to visit him.


35 posted on 05/14/2004 12:24:52 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

OMG, I just thought of something horrible, what if a pic surfaces with nick and the leash lady or some other pervert.


36 posted on 05/14/2004 12:24:54 AM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: sneakers

bump


37 posted on 05/14/2004 12:27:54 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: Bon mots
In E-mails, Nicholas Berg Wrote of Damage, Drama, Freedom philly.com (subscription), PA - 13 hours ago ... Other than that there's been essentially no weather. I guess it's been a busy time since my trip to Mosul and the great quest to locate Uncle-In-Law Moffak. ...
38 posted on 05/14/2004 12:32:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
Crosslinking:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133927/posts
The Berg Beheading- some links
various FR links | 05-12-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy


39 posted on 05/14/2004 1:10:27 AM PDT by backhoe (--30--)
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To: backhoe

Bump!


40 posted on 05/14/2004 1:12:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Meanwhile, Berg's family - which held a private funeral for Nick in West Chester yesterday - produced a bombshell e-mail"

Bombshell? The reporter would like it to be a bombshell. More like a bottle rocket. Americans are outraged at the beheading. All of this media finger-pointing at the U.S. Government ain't gonna fly this time.


41 posted on 05/14/2004 1:26:10 AM PDT by Rocky (To the 9/11 Commission: It was Al Qaeda, stupid!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
One of his friends in Iraq was quoted as saying that Nick was leaving Iraq because he had made a lot of money and was going to go to Turkey next. However, he told another friend he was leaving Iraq because the work had dried up.

He was only there for 6 to 8 weeks the first time. He went back in mid March and was arrested 10 days later. He spent nearly 2 weeks in custody, then around April 6th to 9th, he said he was leaving.

So how and when did he make this money?

42 posted on 05/14/2004 1:31:51 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Rokurota
A "Nick Berg" received an approximately $500 engineering scholarship for the 1999-2000 school year. He must have been doing okay in his classes for that to happen. But then he ups and leaves Cornell the next semester...for Oklahoma?

When I went across country in the summer of 2001, one of my favorite states was Oklahoma, so no offense intended. But to leave Cornell, an Ivy, for UO just seems a little weird.

43 posted on 05/14/2004 1:36:58 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

~bookmark~


44 posted on 05/14/2004 1:37:38 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

An intersting excerpt from one of his emails:

"The other interesting thing about this area is that, for some reason, there are supposedly a good deal of Iranian spies who wander over and sneak about. This actually became quite relevant to my stay in Diwaniya. Isn't this starting to read like a mystery novel..."

so strange. And how are Iranian spies relevant to his stay???


45 posted on 05/14/2004 1:49:42 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

excerpt:
"Otherwise, I came to Mosul to meet Moffak Mustaffa Yasin, Mudafer's (my paternal uncle) brother. It was very easy to find his office (it took about one hour of broken Arabic and a few family-tree sketches)."


46 posted on 05/14/2004 1:53:40 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Bump!


47 posted on 05/14/2004 2:05:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cincy, this story is taking such bizzare twists that I don't know what to make of it.


48 posted on 05/14/2004 2:08:12 AM PDT by backhoe (--30--)
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To: Travis McGee
One other thought to throw into the pot.

If Nick Berg so easily gave his email password, who's to say the emails from Iraq to his family were actually written by Nick? Hmmmmmm?

49 posted on 05/14/2004 2:14:54 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: backhoe
Cincy, this story is taking such bizzare twists that I don't know what to make of it.

Truth is stranger than fiction. But finding the truth in the fiction is becoming a real challenge.

50 posted on 05/14/2004 2:53:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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