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**INVESTIGATION FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF CRIME - UPDATE ON TERRI SCHIAVO**
Fight4Terri Supporters ^ | 5/14/04 | Cheryl Ford RN

Posted on 05/15/2004 6:13:29 AM PDT by MVV

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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

"I never said everything they say is rhetoric or a lie." Really? Read my post again, and you will see that you are doing EXACTLY what I said about people like you - STRAW MAN ARGUMENT. I never said EVERYTHING. Please at least be accurate when you waste bandwidth."

Your earlier post said:

"I don't believe anything I read or hear from her supporters anymore."

Close enough for me. Which makes what you most recently said more of a lie than what you're making accusations about.

Qwinn


41 posted on 05/16/2004 1:54:17 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Bump!


42 posted on 05/16/2004 3:36:03 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
"The rhetoric and outright repeated lies have gotten so prolific in the Terri stories that it has reached the point where I don't believe anything I read or hear from her supporters anymore.

You clearly state that you don't believe anything Terri supporters say. That means you believe everything they say to be a lie.

You didn't leave any room to negotiate the point. You plainly said that everything Terri's supporters say is not the truth

So, for goodness sake, at least have the intestinal fortitude to not duck and run just because I confronted you about it. Either we are all liars, or you owe us an apology. Which is it?
43 posted on 05/16/2004 8:22:32 AM PDT by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheeple! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: floriduh voter
Sorry Floriduh voter. I should have clarified that. I meant the 300,000 who live in Pinellas.... :0)
44 posted on 05/16/2004 8:25:03 AM PDT by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheeple! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: supercat

Thanks for the correction, supercat.


45 posted on 05/16/2004 9:16:18 AM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (The right to die? or the right to be killed - http://www.life-or-death-decisions.org)
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To: russesjunjee; Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh; All
You clearly state that you don't believe anything Terri supporters say. That means you believe everything they say to be a lie.

You didn't leave any room to negotiate the point. You plainly said that everything Terri's supporters say is not the truth.

So, for goodness sake, at least have the intestinal fortitude to not duck and run just because I confronted you about it. Either we are all liars, or you owe us an apology. Which is it

Ah haaaa... Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh is actually John F...n' Kerry !!! ;-))

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46 posted on 05/16/2004 9:54:24 AM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: russesjunjee

I said anymore. That is not the same. And after months and months of so many half-truths, exaggerations and flat out lies, can you blame me? The entire subject is so repulsive, I'm counting down the days until there's nothing to post about anymore. There's a lot of conservatives on this forum who have been harassed, insulted and bashed for posting anything other than "Michael is Satan" - the whole thing is a big black eye to this forum.


47 posted on 05/16/2004 10:22:57 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: supercat

Were you thinking about Judge Frank Quesada? I think that's the name of the other Judge.


48 posted on 05/16/2004 1:33:49 PM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
BOO! HOO!

Yet another person who has labeled Terri as a disposable human being because her fight for life has made him/her uncomfortable...another fine example of how self centered and spoiled the people of this country have become.

And yes...I do blame you. I blame any American who is complacent in this matter. Terri's life is too important an issue to shy away from just because it has upset your stomach, or because some individual may have lied to you, or because you just wish it would go away.

A black eye on the face of free republic will be the least of our worries in this country if we allow stupid, arrogant judges to usher in legalized euthanasia. That's exactly what the death scum in this country have planned for Terri Schiavo...to use her to legalize forced death.

You can hide in a hole until this thing passes, or you can get up and fight for what's right. As for me, I am going to fight for life....because Terri deserves to live, and because I don't want some doctor to whack my mother in the nursing home ten years from now just because some scum bucket judge has decided that she is a burden on society.

If you would do a little homework about euthanasia you would find that in many countries that now have legalized, forced death it all began with a case just like Terri's.

It started with starvation and dehydration and has evolved into lethal injection that can be ordered by a doctor against the family or the patient's wishes.

The same people who helped to make humans disposable in Europe are the same exact goons who are working to have Terri killed by order of the courts. Many pro-death groups around the globe are pouring their money and resources into seeing Terri dead.

Do you want to leave your children and grandchildren in a world where they can be disposed of simply because they can't produce or consume goods and services any more? If you've never asked yourself that question, you need to...because that is where all of this is heading.

If we let the courts kill even a single disabled American the effects will roll across this country like a tidal wave. How long do you think it will take for insurance companies to jump on the "its cheaper to kill em than to cure em bandwagon"?

You need to get out of the "ME ME ME ME ME ME" American mindset that has been drilled into your head by our culture, and start looking at the big picture.

And again....when you call Terri's supporter liars be prepared to produce your evidence. We have been bombarded by so many death advocates and Felos worshipers on these threads that we have learned not to cave in to their rhetoric, half truths, and allegations as well.

Evidence is the burden of the accuser......
49 posted on 05/16/2004 3:24:35 PM PDT by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheeple! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: MVV; cyn; nickcarraway; NYer; sweetliberty; kimmie7; Dante3; windchime; russesjunjee; ...
Hi,

This is Mary & Bob Schindler, Terri's mom and dad. We just wanted to thank you all for supporting Terri. If it were not for people like yourselves, we would not have Terri with us today.

Once again thank you, we are very grateful. May 16, 2004

50 posted on 05/16/2004 3:32:05 PM PDT by floriduh voter (If You are a Troll, You Are Only Hurting Yourself. www.conservative-spirit.org (FV))
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To: floriduh voter

Mr. and Mrs. Schindler are the rock of Gibraltar transplanted to Clearwater, FL. Their courage and determination are an inspiration to all of us who decry the injustices does to this fine family. We must continue to pray for divine intervention in this matter.


51 posted on 05/16/2004 4:27:58 PM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: Theodore R.; floriduh voter
Hi, TR. Joining you in those prayers and more.

Psalms 20:7   Some [trust] in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.

Prov 21:31 -- The horse is prepared for the day of battle, But deliverance is of the Lord. NKJV -- or, 'Go ahead and prepare for the conflict -- but victory comes from God.'

Thanks always for your posts & pings, fv.

52 posted on 05/16/2004 6:20:19 PM PDT by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
You have no chance of disrupting this thread.

And know this, if you cannot put your money where your mouth is and PROVE your wide sweeping comments about the lack of valid opinion here, opinion based on actual events surrounding Terri's fight to LIVE and those who would kill her via dehydration and starvation, then why bother to comment at all. You put people into categories, but you fail to number, ONE BY ONE, those posts you believe are invalid.

Opinion is allowed here, BBF, ranting is allowed, even folks like yourself who desire to minimize this ongoing tragedy are allowed.

But if you want some credibility-get some facts down. Thanks.

53 posted on 05/16/2004 6:44:20 PM PDT by Republic
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To: floriduh voter
FV---did you receive that email from Mary and Bob Schindler? That was a good read.

I am absolutely infuriated that they were refused to see THEIR DAUGHTER after the police lifted the pseudo-charge against them!

Two questions:

How can I help? How can we get this information to Greta Van Susteran, Sean Hannity and Larry King? What is going on with Terri and the Schindler's right now, the horrific impact of MS's cruel and unspeakable harsh manipulations of this family needs to get out BEFORE Judge Greer rules on May 26th.

Secondly: In reading the thread you re-introduced about what happened to Terri in the minutes and hours after the State order her feeding tube re-inserted (my gosh----HORRIFIC in its implications!), why was Felos NOT ARRESTED for attempting to CRUSH an order from the state to re-insert the feeding tube? Why was he not taken to COURT by Pat Anderson over his threat to sue the doctors and nurses at Morton Plant Hospital? Did he drive to the hospital prior to Terri's arrival and threatent them FACE TO FACE? Surely this is against the law in its very nature.

54 posted on 05/16/2004 6:55:03 PM PDT by Republic
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To: Lisa Ruby
That is so unusual--that THREE nurses connected with Terri are now dead. Begins to sound like the number of past associates and enemies of the klinton's who are now dead, most especially by hit and runs and small aircraft disasters. Still wondering if small aircraft pilot, Sen. Inhofe, the outspoken critic of klinton, had a full investigation done of his propellar, that FELL OFF after a take off ( THANK GOD this man was able to land his single engine craft!).

Makes me want to go find my tin foil hat. When coincidences seem too much to swallow-whatchagonnado?

56 posted on 05/16/2004 8:20:08 PM PDT by Republic
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To: russesjunjee
"If we let the courts kill even a single disabled American the effects will roll across this country like a tidal wave. How long do you think it will take for insurance companies to jump on the "its cheaper to kill em than to cure em bandwagon"?"

I'd bet they've already gotten all the bureaucratic procedures, soulless forms, and paid-for "ethicists" in place - just waiting to implement it as soon as they can.

My investigative skills aren't that great, so I'm asking an open question. Has anyone done any investigation on the possibility that major medical insurance companies are funding pro-euthanasia organizations, like the Hemlock Society?
58 posted on 05/16/2004 8:38:29 PM PDT by Wampus SC
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To: russesjunjee
"It started with starvation and dehydration and has evolved into lethal injection that can be ordered by a doctor against the family or the patient's wishes.

The same people who helped to make humans disposable in Europe are the same exact goons who are working to have Terri killed by order of the courts. Many pro-death groups around the globe are pouring their money and resources into seeing Terri dead.

Do you want to leave your children and grandchildren in a world where they can be disposed of simply because they can't produce or consume goods and services any more? If you've never asked yourself that question, you need to...because that is where all of this is heading."


Sorry for the long quote, but I think it should be reiterated just how high the stakes are here.

These Terri threads should be added to the "Civil War 2" ping list. Seriously. It could be that big of a watershed event.
59 posted on 05/16/2004 8:44:57 PM PDT by Wampus SC
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To: floriduh voter

God bless you, Mary and Bob Schindler.


60 posted on 05/16/2004 8:45:46 PM PDT by Wampus SC
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