Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Eight

CNN ^ | 5-17-04 | Various

[_Jim]

   This can't be true.

You're right - once again ...

What? You disagree?

You (and others) who can't name the principles or rationale which underpin the prime logic and purpose behind a 'gridded' system?

[Myrddin]

How survivable is the grid if all the coal fired plants are taken out of service by destruction of the railroad delivery of coal? Assume rebuilding the key bridges takes 6 months and the current "on the ground" storage is estimated at 6 weeks. Is there enough reserve in other forms of generation?

[Indie]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1144246/posts

Good FR terror post.
Pay special attention to "oil refineries." [We haven't built one since 70's and if we lose even one or two, it would shut things down..for a loooong time]

The lack of refining capacity...this is treason on the part of those who opposed this over the years.

[JustPiper]

Remember my SIL came here from Seoul in 70' ;)

[JustPiper]

Our Freeper base has grown, glad to add you to my new list ;)Glad you are no longer lurking and joined the thread!

[JustPiper]

It is time to hold a counter protest and someone needs to inform the police and DHS they are planning this, it could go wrong in so many ways

[JustPiper]

Speaking of Emerson Jane, do you have any idea of how to contact him?

[JustPiper]

It was a rough volunteer job, it was new here then and the cops didn't care for us, no cooperation. The gangbangers got police scanners, would here our reports to one another and chase our cars down the street. When I was about 6 months pregnant and winter I stopped -g-

[JustPiper]

Not sure just yet Mossad

[JustPiper]

Terror Warning News:

[WGRZ-TV] NEW YORK - Two Passengers Removed From Flight at Buffalo Niagara International Airport [ suspicious activity ]

http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=20971

[White Plains Journal News] NEW YORK - Area law officials: No plans to boost anti-terror efforts

http://www.nyjournalnews.com/newsroom/052704/a0127terror.html

[Ohio News Network] OHIO - Ohio Homeland Security On Alert

http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=1898479&nav=LQlCNSaM

[KSBY] CALIFORNIA - Terror alert has local agencies taking security measures

http://www.ksby.com/home/headlines/797817.html

[WGAL Channel.com] PENNSYLVANIA - Man Arrested At Capital For Alleged Holster, Suspicious Package

http://www.thewgalchannel.com/news/3350152/detail.html

[NBC13.com] ALABAMA - Police Close Interstate, Search Suspicious Truck

"FBI, Secret Service, Local Police Involved In Search"

http://www.nbc13.com/news/3344569/detail.html

[NBC13.com] ALABAMA - Stopped Truck Has Mysterious History

http://www.nbc13.com/news/3346264/detail.html

[Monterey County Herald] CALIFORNIA - Mysterious material found at Hartnell

http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/local/8772985.htm

[Vancouver Sun] CANADA - Mystery bus rider made cryptic remark before driver fell ill

http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=946fbd65-deb1-4cdb-95cb-a67b3c946229

[580 CFRA Radio] CANADA - Third Envelope Delivered To Carleton University

"suspected to have come from the same person who sent the original two envelopes; one of which contained orange powder, pins and needles"

http://www.cfra.com/headlines/index.asp?cat=1&nid=15284

[CBC British Columbia] CANADA - Vancouver bus quarantined after mystery substance found

http://cbc.ca/stories/2004/05/25/vancouver_bus040525

[CP] CANADA - Officials a step closer to identifying mysterious illness on a Vancouver bus [ Mass Hysteria? ]

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/05/28/477273-cp.html

[CFCN] CANADA - Suspicious packages close legislature

"28 suspicious packages containing white powder "

http://www.cfcn.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/B/20040528/legpackages?brand=generic&hub=&tf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.html&cf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.cfg&slug=legpackages&date=20040528&archive=CFCNPlus&ad_page_name=&nav=home&subnav=fullstory

[KVOA.com] USA - Arab-Americans concerned over terror alert

http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=1899259&nav=HMO6HMaY

[Myrddin]

I have a way around the scanners when my wife is working dispatch. I call her cell phone from my cell phone. No radio traffic. The officers have cell phones too. CDMA cell phones can't be picked up on a scanner. The cell phone dispatches are logged into the CAD system. Fairly secure. San Diego Sheriff's Dept installed mobile data terminals in the cars. Dispatch is done digitally. Nothing for the bad guys to hear.

[JustPiper]

[eTrucker ] USA - Highway Watch responds to terrorist alert

http://www.etrucker.com/apps/news/article.asp?id=44015

[Boston Channel.com] BOSTON - Boston On Alert For Signs Of Bioterrorism

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/3351859/detail.html

[Las Vegas Review-Journal] LAS VEGAS - Officials say intelligence offers 'no specifics' about Las Vegas

NOTE:
"However, a story in the latest edition of U.S. News & World Report says Las Vegas was one of three targets mentioned in intelligence culled after the March train bombings in Spain"

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/May-27-Thu-2004/news/23974498.html

[CNN International] USA - Plane lands early after bomb threat

"note was found saying a bomb or explosive was on board"

"fighter jets from a combat air patrol escorted the plane down "

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/South/05/27/plane.diversion/

NOTE: LE sucks here:

[Denver Post] COLORADO - 2 suspected al-Qaeda agents dropped in for meal, says Denny's manager in Avon

"When he called the Denver office, he was shuttled to voice mail because the agents were busy, Mac said. It was five hours before a seemingly uninterested agent called back."

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E53%257E2177173,00.html

[WLS] ILLINOIS - Reports of suspicious person, packages halt Metra train [ One in custody ]

"reports of a suspicious person and packages"

"They are not releasing details about the reports or that person"

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/052804_ns_metra.html

[Milford Daily News] MASS - Suspicious bag found at BJ's [ Unknown substance, foreign shipping container ]

http://www.milforddailynews.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=48818

[Arkcity.net] KANSAS - Mysterious wheat virus appears in West Kansas [ Possible Agro-Terrorism? ]

"Researchers don't know what the virus is, where it came from, or how it spreads"

http://www.arkcity.net/stories/052804/com_0004.shtml

[The Straits Times] USA - FBI gets 2,000 tip-offs about Al-Qaeda operatives

http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/world/story/0,4386,253476,00.html

[KDKA] PENNSYLVANIA - Local FBI Head: al Qaeda 'Expressed Interest' in Pittsburgh

http://kdka.com/local/local_story_149144847.html

[JustPiper]

You are 100% correct, everytime someone is on TV for a heinous crime you always hear neighbors/family say not him!

[JustPiper]

We did fund his operations against Rssia in Afghan

[JustPiper]

Notify them:

[Ohio News Network] OHIO - Ohio Homeland Security On Alert

http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=1898479&nav=LQlCNSaM

[_Jim]

How survivable is the grid if all the coal fired plants are taken out of service by destruction of the railroad delivery of coal? Assume rebuilding the key bridges takes 6 months and the current "on the ground" storage is estimated at 6 weeks. Is there enough reserve in other forms of generation?

First of all -

a) you tell me what 'the grid' is: what it's benefits are, what was the historical derivation or development of same over the last 100 years

b) then briefly explain alternative topologies to 'the grid' - also list the negative factors that such alternative topologies bring with them in contrast to 'the grid'.

We need to *perfectly* understand a few basic terms here before we go into any hypotheticals ...

[JustPiper]

Ok Lab: ohmmmmmmmmm ;)

[JustPiper]

Bad Lab! Shhhhhhhh!

[JustPiper]

Be warned Midwesterners, things are shaping up to be potentially deadly and dangerous this weekend.

Believe me, was right in the middle of it for a week ;)

[JustPiper]

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