Posted on 05/17/2004 7:06:39 AM PDT by qam1
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These guys are telling us that faith and hearing come by being cool enough to relate to today's youth.
People who adopt christinaity because it's cool are missing the boat. John would say when they leave eventually that they never knew us.
And I guess John's robe and sandals weren't the style in those days?
Try and find a youth group not obsessed with Hollywood these days. Check out HollywoodJesus (com or org???). It's embarrassing.
While this is a sloppy way of saying it, and I don't entirely agree with the application, I have to admit this comment reminded me of I Corinthians 5:9-10 "I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world."
I can understand the need for people to relate to a younger crowd in order to get them interested in Christianity, but this "Jesus is my homeboy" stuff is blasphemous, IMO. It's clearly a mockery of Christianity, considering the works and deeds of people like Madonna and Ashton Kutcher, who are the ones wearing the gear and leading the pop-marketing trend. It's sick.
I'm the Youth Advisor for our Church, and I see no need to use these silly t-shirts to reach out to the youth. The Word of God is, and should always be, enough. Bending the word of God by creating slogans in order to "get" to youth is the wrong approach. I've found that being able to RELATE the word of God to situations they're dealing with, and in turn giving them heros to look up to, to be the most effective method.
The Revival will not be televised...
Mainline churches = weak, Godless, men-pleasing, spiritually dead, mausoleums with emptying pews.
In most "mainline churches" Christ is not preached, repentence not mentioned, holiness not spoken of, the Bible is never referenced, and Christ's return is considered a scary fairy tale believed only by those icky fundamentalists who believe what the Bible says.
And of course, the "word" should be spoken in 16th century King James English and sung in 300 year old hymnals.
Right?
I agree 100%. If you listen to a sermon and don't hear the words "sin", "Jesus", "salvation", or "blood of Christ" you are in the wrong church.
What is a mainline church exactly??? That term is confusing because to me it implies on the straight path?
Making a witness that works is not missing the boat. People who adopt Christianity because they love the lord and are truly believers are pleasing to God.
Jesus didn't belong to a church, he was a jew, and taught that there was a new way. (himself)
Different people need to be reached in different ways. It's what's in your heart that matters.
And being a Christian is cool.
Funny, but you just can't find anywhere that John teaches us to dress like the world so that the world will think we're cool and then want to accept Jesus. Or to model our christiaity after styles that are acceptable to the world.
I mean you can't find that anywhere. The closest you can get is Paul saying that he is "all things to all men"... but if you read the context he's talking about the issue of "the law".
I don't see that at all."I have become all things to all people"Paul wrote and showed by his actions that he would adapt himself and his way of preaching the gospel to the audience so that they could see it and grasp it. The book of Acts gives specific example of how Paul spoke differently to pagan Gentiles (as at Mars Hill in Athens) than he did to Jews.1 Corinthians 9.22
I don't see anything different from what Paul did and these folks are doing. Jesus meets us where we are -- shouldn't we meet others where they are?
When the gospel gets spread to Africa, for instance, would you think it "unbiblical" if the gopsel songs use African lyrics and native tunes?
That's like the old joke... right? The guy who grows up in a church. When he's 19 he moves off and lives a sorted life with all kinds of sorted people. A few years later he runs into his old preacher in the supermarket and the preacher asks him what he's doing. He replies... "oh the work of the Lord.....I'm developing a testimony".
I entered the Kingdom of God one dark night in 1985 after reading a Jack Chick comic about two Christian dudes going around the world in bell bottoms doing good. The one on the end times literally scared the Hell out of me.
Pretty much any church with a denomiation. Baptist, Methodist, Episcopal, etc.
If you can call yourself anything other than "Christian" and have people recognize what you mean, chances are it's a mainline church. (ie, "I'm a Pentecostal", etc.)
See my post 14... the one right in front of yours that I probably did while you were typing.
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