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House rejects bill requiring hospitals to ask alien status (Neville Chamberlain would be proud)
May 18, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/18/2004 3:18:04 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP

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To: StoneColdGOP

I see. I have to say that as a student of history I do wish people would stop using Chamberlain as a shorthand for the sort of craven cowardice you're obviously implying- It really is a gross oversimplification of the facts to the point of complete innaccuracy (much as most people here seem to hold Churchill up as an example of everything good, for that matter). Ho hum. I suppose it's easier and more fun to cast historical figures as stereotypes.


61 posted on 05/18/2004 4:24:03 PM PDT by Ed Thomas
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To: StoneColdGOP
As far as I know, the President never weighed in this bill. I don't think he ever has said much about any bill not introduced by the White House.

Blame Bush for his actions, and blame Congress for their actions, but don't blame either for the others' actions. They are independent branches.

63 posted on 05/18/2004 4:49:32 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: StoneColdGOP

A year ago it was estimated that Los Angeles County spent $340 million for emergency care and followup for people who are in the country illegally.

This was a striking figure not only because it represents an outrageously large sum of taxpayers money but also because that amount was nearly the same as the unfunded debt the County health care system anticipated for the year, red ink that forced the closure of numerous neighborhood clinics as well as other cutbacks.

In neighboring Ventura County, Santa Paula Memorial Hospital closed it's doors recently, leaving some people more than twentyfive miles from emergency care.

I don't know where the Representatives who voted against this bill think the money will come from to support overburdened health care facilities.


64 posted on 05/18/2004 4:50:00 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: StoneColdGOP
Everyone should remember that when the RNC comes calling for donations!

or send em a peso...

65 posted on 05/18/2004 4:57:51 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray for our patriot armed forces in harm's way - and the families awaiting their safe return)
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To: StoneColdGOP

I'd be willing to let anyone get services as long as they had ways to ensure that those people pay. But they don't. They will just leave as soon as they are healed, and the insurance premiums of everyone else will rise.


66 posted on 05/18/2004 5:02:59 PM PDT by johnfrink
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To: StoneColdGOP

The GOP is terrified of losing, and when people are terrified and lack self-confidence, they usually LOSE.


67 posted on 05/18/2004 5:33:32 PM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: StoneColdGOP

Its a bipartisan crime racket... our elected representatives could care less if hospitals and clinics close due to uncompensated health care costs. The worst part of this vote is that they deny to Americans what they guarantee to those here in violation of our country's laws: free health care. And here you have so called conservatives voting for Canada style health care for everyone but Americans. Think about what that means the next time you witness Americans being denied health care they can't get cause their local hospital shut it doors. Its un-American, according to the House Of Representatives, to require foreigners to pay for the full costs of their treatment even though every other country has such a requirement. Ask a sick American treated in Mexico if he can get free health care while there.


68 posted on 05/18/2004 6:05:04 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: StoneColdGOP
Without either of them embracing illegal alien amnesty and bending over forwards for Vicente Fox, a hell of a lot more Republicans would have voted yes and not worried about going against the sentiments of the President.

You are making excuses for the R's in congress but not for the president.

Each politician is responsible for their own vote.

69 posted on 05/18/2004 6:08:40 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: NYC GOP Chick

>>But why do it to a kid at that age?!<<

Because the kid refused to keep himself clean.


70 posted on 05/18/2004 7:42:39 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element")
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To: glock rocks

send them a peso.


That's what I did, 2 of them.


71 posted on 05/18/2004 7:44:48 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element")
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To: StoneColdGOP

My brother used to work in collections at a hospital. When he called someone, he could see on his screen oodles of personal information, from which he could glean whether or not the person could afford to pay the bill. I remember him telling me of at least one illegal who could pay the bill, but was refusing. My brother threatened to report him to INS. It's amazing how quickly people will start cooperating when given a little motivation.


72 posted on 05/18/2004 7:56:33 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Ed Thomas

Its called taking the path of least resistance. To its everlasting shame, the House of the people couldn't be counted on to stand up on behalf of our country's national interest.


73 posted on 05/18/2004 8:03:35 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: StoneColdGOP
Good. This is not appeasement.

Enforcing immigration laws is the job of Homeland Security, not surgeons and nurses and radiologists. Let's not pass the buck, please.

74 posted on 05/18/2004 8:22:33 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: StoneColdGOP
And just when the hell did health care become a "right"?

When there were enough liberals electing people who believed it was a right and imposed this 'right' on the rest of us....unfortunately.

75 posted on 05/18/2004 8:32:32 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Savage is right - extreme liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: Lizavetta

But not for Americans. We're not deserving enough to get that free health care. <sarcasm


76 posted on 05/18/2004 8:34:56 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: StoneColdGOP
David Drier, point man for Schwarzenegger, votes NO.

The moderates (Republican) in California will rue the day they voted for Schwarzenegger and his buddy Dave.

77 posted on 05/18/2004 8:38:43 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Ed Thomas

We're flexible. Would you prefer 'Quisling'?


78 posted on 05/18/2004 8:40:52 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: AM2000
Enforcing immigration laws is the job of Homeland Security, not surgeons and nurses and radiologists. Let's not pass the buck, please.

That dog may bark on a Republican forum which is were I suggest it be exercised.

When the Republican Party comes for the you, don't even think about glancing to your right for help. Look to the surgeons, nurses and radiologists.

79 posted on 05/18/2004 8:49:43 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: AM2000

"Enforcing immigration laws is the job of Homeland Security, not surgeons and nurses and radiologists. Let's not pass the buck, please."


===

Finally, the voice of reason -- I was getting worried, reading this thread.


80 posted on 05/18/2004 8:56:17 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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